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mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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bravedave said:
Has anyone mentioned that the Yankees suck yet? ;). Have to say that @Diabolical666 and myself got off on a similar foot about a year ago, but I have come to respect HER brahless opinion over that year. You should too. As to the light, I like old shit that works, but do keep an eye on it.
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Kinda the way you grew to respect me and all my knowledge.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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WeedFreak78 said:
Why? They don't go bad. Diabolical, you know your shit most of the time, but i think you're wrong here.
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I'm not an expert electrical engineer but I'm pretty sure oxidized components, aka old ones, create resistance and resistance creates heat. I'm not a fire inspector, but I'm somewhat certain enough heat can cause a fire. I'm not a physicist but I'm going to assume that gravity exists, too, based on evidence others have gathered. Re-read the beginning of the thread, dude was out of line.
 
WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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Michael Huntherz said:
I'm not an expert electrical engineer but I'm pretty sure oxidized components, aka old ones, create resistance and resistance creates heat. I'm not a fire inspector, but I'm somewhat certain enough heat can cause a fire. I'm not a physicist but I'm going to assume that gravity exists, too, based on evidence others have gathered. Re-read the beginning of the thread, dude was out of line.
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Again SO WHAT?? Old electrical appliances don't "wear out" like mechanical items. In my house i have a window fan from the '50's..open metal blade and all..still looks and works like new, a 60's era canister vac that was my grandparents..still looks and works like new..the vent fan in my kitchen is original 40's era to the house..guess what? Oh and my aunt has a 1950's refrigerator she bought used 20+ yrs ago that still works,,but it's probably a fire hazard..right..:roll:. Depending on how old that light is..I might even go as far as saying it might be better quality than a new one..

The OP was most definitely out of line..but I still say this was full of bad advice. All I know is that the people who throw stuff like this out because they don't have the knowledge of simple electrical systems gets me a bunch of good stuff to fix on the cheap and resell..
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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WeedFreak78 said:
I don't understand why anyone thinks that just because a light is old it's no good..@diabolical666?? I was given a 15+yr old hydro farm 400MH..i think it's the same thing he has, built in ballast..works fine. I know enough that i took it apart,cleaned it and checked the wiring. Those old mag ballast light last forever..might need to replace a CAP here and there. I see a huge fear, or misunderstanding?, of electricity in the MJ growing community..I don't get it, it's pretty simple. Oh and once you get bit by 120 a couple times..it's not that bad..lol

I'm not arguing the other points, I don't use it much because it puts off too much heat and my T5 blows it away.
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Its not so much that its a fact that it will be unsafe.
I was the only maintenance guy at a roll to roll print press factory until it closed. Other than a few machines everything in there was built in the 30's to the 50's. Trust me I love old equipment. Most anything older is built better than the new stuff. Though sometimes at a trade off of efficiency.

I think that the decision to use it comes down to a set of variables that are unknown and complicated so everyone errs on the side of caution.

I might use it, you might to. The person deciding needs to know if they are capable of that decision. The person needs to be honest whether they know enough to deem the light safe. Be sure you understand how amps, watts, and volts work so you are capable of knowing how it was originally wired and if it is still wired that way and correct gauge of wire and even the length of wire.

Next comes to your home situation. Part of the decision of should you use it. If you own your own home, pay your own insurance, then yes go ahead. If you live with someone or rent then is the decision to use it fair? I would say in that situation then all parties might need to be involves in using older questionable lights.

Then comes this part. At a time in history when cannabis is on the verge of being completely legal we have a due diligence. We do not need people that grow burning their house down. We need to go forth and be safe and diligent and show the world that growing can be a safe endeavor.

Now that is some serious thought about that light. Now hopefully the OP can now take all this info into account and make an informed and competent decision.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Michael Huntherz said:
So what? You know what causes oxidization? Time. Also moisture. They very much do wear out, actually.
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He's right. My objection to the op using the light was the way he carried himself. Seemed immature and probably lacked the skill to examine the inside.

I have an uncle that retired from a very large and lucrative logging company. He built the business from the ground up and paid cash for his first skidder, and semi, and other equipment from saving and refurbishing used appliances. I have some old fans and other stuff. I cut my hair with a pair of 30 year old pet clippers. Sometimes you can't buy the quality older stuff has. My tiller is as old as I am. Heavy, a lot of thick cast iron and heavy steel gears. When the motor blew up I bought a new motor for it.

I think most would be OK with the light if it was opened and inspected. This thread would have gone different if it was titled different and the op asked if it was safe, maybe take a pic of the guts.
It was more the fact op seemed as if they were going to just run it. Plus the title was "ready for the critics."
The first person to criticize the op caused him to lose his shit. Now that's funny.
 
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