Rapid rioters directly into soil?

mickey oneil

mickey oneil

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So, I typically germ my seeds in paper towel and have had good germination success. Also, I typically will plant germinated seeds into their final pot/medium. I’ve had some issues w seeds fully sprouting. Environmentals are optimal in my growing spaces 70-75* and 75-85% humidity (for early veg stage).

I have a propagation dome and some rapid rooters (I’ve never used a dome or rapid rooters before) and was wondering if I can start the seedlings in the rapid rooters (in the propagation dome) and plant the RR directly into my medium (for the duration of the grow) once the roots develop a bit in the dome...??? This way, I’d at least be using/wasting less medium/electricity.

If so, should I germ the seeds before dropping into the RR, or just soak the seeds in water a bit; letting the germ process happen in the RR in the dome?

Thanks for the help!
 
kingtitan

kingtitan

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I have always cracked them in a shot-glass of water for 16 hours, then to paper towels and then to planting medium. This cycle I used rapid rooters as I went full hydro and I found I had to help them with the shell more often probably because there is not much to push against when coming up in a rooter hole.

don t use a dome for germinating or seedlings
 
mickey oneil

mickey oneil

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kingtitan said:
I have always cracked them in a shot-glass of water for 16 hours, then to paper towels and then to planting medium. This cycle I used rapid rooters as I went full hydro and I found I had to help them with the shell more often probably because there is not much to push against when coming up in a rooter hole.

don t use a dome for germinating or seedlings
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Are u recommending I don’t use a dome, or saying you don’t use one? I’ve had issue with shells staying on going paper towel to medium.
 
mickey oneil

mickey oneil

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drsaltzman said:
Sure .... That's what they're for.
Or the little peat discs that plump up when you water them.
Let them germ in the plug, get a good start on growing some roots, and transplant the whole thing. No need to tease the roots out.
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Do those plugs come prepackaged w the micronutes as the rapid rooters do? Thanks again for ur help.its okay to put the peat moss in soil medium after the seeds pop? Do you recommend one over the other (peat cubes vs RR)?
 
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mickey oneil

mickey oneil

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chiqifella said:
I didnt know rapid rooters have nutrients
seedlings dont like domes.
when roots emerge from rooting cube transplant into soil.
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I just figured it would be easier to control environmentals w a dome. I initially got it for clones but thought starting seedlings out in a dome would be beneficial... RR have micronutrients within.
 
kingtitan

kingtitan

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mickey oneil said:
I just figured it would be easier to control environmentals w a dome. I initially got it for clones but thought starting seedlings out in a dome would be beneficial... RR have micronutrients within.
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I have heard they have a small charge but I havent nailed down anything official? like the rooter packages don't say it (I haven't checked their site in a while either). I think the instructions maybe say you can use a mild nutrient solution to soak? not necessary for germinating and first week or two anyway
 
drsaltzman

drsaltzman

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mickey oneil said:
Do those plugs come prepackaged w the micronutes as the rapid rooters do? Thanks again for ur help.its okay to put the peat moss in soil medium after the seeds pop? Do you recommend one over the other (peat cubes vs RR)?
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They come in packs of 12, 24, 48 etc...
It's just peat, but it's all a seedling needs to pop and start rooting.
Then you put them right in the soil of your choice.
I like the peat. It comes with a biodegradable net around each disc and you can cover the seed to your liking.
A dome is good if your humidity is very low. Occasionally I'll cover them during the dark cycle (18/6) if needed.

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chiqifella

chiqifella

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mickey oneil said:
I just figured it would be easier to control environmentals w a dome. I initially got it for clones but thought starting seedlings out in a dome would be beneficial... RR have micronutrients within.
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it can be but we see so many seedlings damping off with mold on the stem when domed. They'd rather have a controlled enviro that circulates and exchanges fresh air 24/7
 
chiqifella

chiqifella

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mickey oneil said:
I just figured it would be easier to control environmentals w a dome. I initially got it for clones but thought starting seedlings out in a dome would be beneficial... RR have micronutrients within.
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From the site:

Rapid Rooter Grow Plugs are a sponge like material, all natural soilless organic grow plugs made of composted tree bark and organic materials.

There are no added nutrients listed on the label or in msds.
we could test it with a ppm meter....
 
vostok

vostok

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mickey oneil said:
So, I typically germ my seeds in paper towel and have had good germination success. Also, I typically will plant germinated seeds into their final pot/medium. I’ve had some issues w seeds fully sprouting. Environmentals are optimal in my growing spaces 70-75* and 75-85% humidity (for early veg stage).

I have a propagation dome and some rapid rooters (I’ve never used a dome or rapid rooters before) and was wondering if I can start the seedlings in the rapid rooters (in the propagation dome) and plant the RR directly into my medium (for the duration of the grow) once the roots develop a bit in the dome...??? This way, I’d at least be using/wasting less medium/electricity.

If so, should I germ the seeds before dropping into the RR, or just soak the seeds in water a bit; letting the germ process happen in the RR in the dome?

Thanks for the help!
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I like to see what I pay for

then bitch like fuck to get them replaced if seed dead

hence I soak for 8-12 hours then plant to a 4 inche pot or rapid rooter

care: as the new RR are made of thicker nylon? webbing

and I've often cut with a blade before inserting seed

to my blog: on germing: https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/germination-101.31319/

good luck

only time I dome is with clones in RR otherwize not!
 
mickey oneil

mickey oneil

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vostok said:
I like to see what I pay for

then bitch like fuck to get them replaced if seed dead

hence I soak for 8-12 hours then plant to a 4 inche pot or rapid rooter

care: as the new RR are made of thicker nylon? webbing

and I've often cut with a blade before inserting seed

to my blog: on germing: https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/germination-101.31319/

good luck

only time I dome is with clones in RR otherwize not!
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Germination isn’t the issue... it’s getting the seeds to sprout.
 
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Beachwalker

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mickey oneil said:
So, I typically germ my seeds in paper towel and have had good germination success. Also, I typically will plant germinated seeds into their final pot/medium. I’ve had some issues w seeds fully sprouting. Environmentals are optimal in my growing spaces 70-75* and 75-85% humidity (for early veg stage).

I have a propagation dome and some rapid rooters (I’ve never used a dome or rapid rooters before) and was wondering if I can start the seedlings in the rapid rooters (in the propagation dome) and plant the RR directly into my medium (for the duration of the grow) once the roots develop a bit in the dome...??? This way, I’d at least be using/wasting less medium/electricity.

If so, should I germ the seeds before dropping into the RR, or just soak the seeds in water a bit; letting the germ process happen in the RR in the dome?

Thanks for the help!
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My personal opinion is rapid rooters stay a little too wet for starting seeds, very good for clones seeds not so much
- good luck!
 
mickey oneil

mickey oneil

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Beachwalker said:
My personal opinion is rapid rooters stay a little too wet for starting seeds, very good for clones seeds not so much
- good luck!
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Couldn’t you just not wet them as much??? I’m sure they’re a bit wet out of the package... can they be squeezed out?
 
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