Question About Being A Caregiver

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jointss

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I was looking to become a full time care giver, with the max patients and curious if it would be a good choice to move to WA/CO/LA/AZ/MI and be a legit caregiver, I'm not in it for the money, but in it because this is something I would love to do, and wouldn't mind making 30-40k a year compared to others who make a 70-100k...

curious where would be the best places to move, and if its hard to find people who will always needs their meds on a regular basis so I dont grow and they decide they quit cannabis and go homeless...thanks
 
FarmerJJ

FarmerJJ

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There will always be people who need quality marijuana. And just because its "legal" in the state doesn't mean you have no threat of getting busted, the DEA love busting "legal" grows because American laws are ridiculous. Move to Canada.
 
FarmerJJ

FarmerJJ

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Apparently, but it seemed like it was always more regulated anyway. Like you could never get a prescription if you just had chronic pain, unless it made you incapable of walking. But i don't think medical mj will ever leave here. It's just really government controlled. Just check out this site for info. http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/
 
gladstoned

gladstoned

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So you want to leave state open up your own business and be at the poverty level? Go to a hospital, how much is the guy making that cleans up shit? How much does a pharmacist make? How much do the scientists make, that make prescription drugs? Dude, you should be able to crack minimum wage.
 
25 years away

25 years away

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Jointss,
Just my 2 cents! If you come to Mich. and plan on making 30K to 40K off of your patients you'll most likely end up in trouble. You can only be fairly compensated for your caregiving (growing) and it cannot be for profit! There is no way you will have that much money into growing for your patients, unless they are providing to others, and those people are providing to others also. So unless you can demonstrate that it costs you that much to produce, it will be considered profit. Unless you have another job to provide for your "living" expenses they will eventually get you.
Again just my 2 cents! Good luck.
 
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jointss

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Buddy Ganga said:
You've got caregiver confused with drug dealer, but that will work if you head west. Cali, go to Cali..
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No..It would be me doing a job which takes a good bit of time and work to make medical grade marijuana...work + power+nutes..etc

selling a oz for 400 would be a drug dealer(isn't that what they sell them for anyways at most dispensaries ?) i would do for 200 to help people and pay for my labor as a regular job instead of like most of these other guys or even take it to the black market for 400-450 which i'm not wanting to risk breaking the law..just curious if i could move to a state and do it like a legit job...guess i'll look into this a bit more or just forget about it..

thanks for the inputs..
 
Buddy Ganga

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wouldn't mind making 30-40k

Here in Mich that is what we call drug dealing.
It is illegal to profit from transfers, through patients or other wise.

Let make this easy for you.
If you get busted violating a plant count, your certification means nothing and you are charged for every single plant, not just for the ones you're over. This concept applies to just about everything associated with the medical laws.
So Mich wouldn't be the place for your type of grow.

Now, you've already made your intentions known so by advocating anything you are suggesting would be conspiring if you actually decided to move here. And I'm not about to do that.




 
specialk2

specialk2

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just a tip... don't mention caregiver and profits in the same sentence

if you are serious about being a caregiver, find out who needs the help... who is looking and where, what the laws are regarding the state your thinking about going to... check the norml website and their medical section to find the laws (including plant count, weight, # of patients, etc...) the idea of a caregiver is helping those who do need the help... and not using them as a cover

gl to you
 
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jointss

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specialk2 said:
just a tip... don't mention caregiver and profits in the same sentence

if you are serious about being a caregiver, find out who needs the help... who is looking and where, what the laws are regarding the state your thinking about going to... check the normal website and their medical section to find the laws (including plant count, weight, # of patients, etc...) the idea of a caregiver is helping those who do need the help... and not using them as a cover

gl to you
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alright thanks...i actually do want to help people who need it if i could..i didn't actually plan on moving to MI unless if it was a really good state..

i guess i might just give up the idea, just come up as an idea of a cool job lol...guess i'll just try to find an actual job and live in a MMJ state so i can get some fire instead of dirt.. thanks though
 
roosba

roosba

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cannabis wishes and caregiver dreams! if you put that much thought and effort into a real job you could make the money you want and grow medicine and provide it for free!! now that's a caregiver! good luck, my man
 
Cory and trevor

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well, I hate to say it but you hit up the wrong website for what your looking for. There is a nazi-esq group of weird-o jerks on here who think if you take a stick of gum from a patient you're a drug dealing crook. Best advice-stay away from Michigan cuz wer're broke on the whole here and stay far from this site for info on fair compensation and the like or you will get flamed like the fires from hell by hippie altrustic types who hate money and the exchange of it for any reason. Oh let's not forget the A hole "patients" who expect everything to be free because of all the time they put into whining about not getting something for nothing. I think you're request is fair, you're intentions are good and I wish you luck but I think you're going to find me in the minority on this site. GL
 
st0wandgrow

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Cory and trevor said:
well, I hate to say it but you hit up the wrong website for what your looking for. There is a nazi-esq group of weird-o jerks on here who think if you take a stick of gum from a patient you're a drug dealing crook. Best advice-stay away from Michigan cuz wer're broke on the whole here and stay far from this site for info on fair compensation and the like or you will get flamed like the fires from hell by hippie altrustic types who hate money and the exchange of it for any reason. Oh let's not forget the A hole "patients" who expect everything to be free because of all the time they put into whining about not getting something for nothing. I think you're request is fair, you're intentions are good and I wish you luck but I think you're going to find me in the minority on this site. GL
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I don't completely disagree with you. There is a balance to be struck here, though. Caregivers should be providing a service to their patients first and foremost. IMO, a caregiver should be able to provide free meds to their patients, and have plently left over to compensate themselves for. This is within reason, of course. If a patient expects and ounce every week for free, then I would probably not want to act as a caregiver for that patient. My patients get free meds. They usually go through an ounce or two every month. The overages I take to dispensaries as compensation for my time and money. Any decent caregiver should have plenty of overages. The state limits the plant count, not the plants size and/or yield.

People shouldn't be looking to make a living off of this, though ..... which is what this cat sounds like he's trying to do.
 
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st0wandgrow said:
I don't completely disagree with you. There is a balance to be struck here, though. Caregivers should be providing a service to their patients first and foremost. IMO, a caregiver should be able to provide free meds to their patients, and have plently left over to compensate themselves for. This is within reason, of course. If a patient expects and ounce every week for free, then I would probably not want to act as a caregiver for that patient. My patients get free meds. They usually go through an ounce or two every month. The overages I take to dispensaries as compensation for my time and money. Any decent caregiver should have plenty of overages. The state limits the plant count, not the plants size and/or yield.

People shouldn't be looking to make a living off of this, though ..... which is what this cat sounds like he's trying to do.
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why shouldnt people be making a living off of being a caregiver or for providing a service that some one else is not capable of doing there self the rest of the world works that way even the health services in the u.s.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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laced23z said:
why shouldnt people be making a living off of being a caregiver or for providing a service that some one else is not capable of doing there self the rest of the world works that way even the health services in the u.s.
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Using health services is a pretty bad example, imo. The "health services" in this country is driven by greed and profit. Money comes before a persons health and well being, and that is pretty fucked up if you ask me. That shouldn't be the case in a caregiver/patient relationship.

If you don't have a job that pays the bills, the profit motive enters the equation, and you may find yourself in a spot where you have to decide between providing meds to a sick patient that is broke, or paying your own rent. Not a good scenario.

Besides that, how are you going to report your profit? Are you going to pay federal and/or state taxes on sales of a schedule 1 narcotic, or are you going to try and convince the IRS that you have a house, a car, a 52" HD TV, etc ..... but no source of income?
 
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jointss

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st0wandgrow said:
Using health services is a pretty bad example, imo. The "health services" in this country is driven by greed and profit. Money comes before a persons health and well being, and that is pretty fucked up if you ask me. That shouldn't be the case in a caregiver/patient relationship.

If you don't have a job that pays the bills, the profit motive enters the equation, and you may find yourself in a spot where you have to decide between providing meds to a sick patient that is broke, or paying your own rent. Not a good scenario.

Besides that, how are you going to report your profit? Are you going to pay federal and/or state taxes on sales of a schedule 1 narcotic, or are you going to try and convince the IRS that you have a house, a car, a 52" HD TV, etc ..... but no source of income?
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well i'm young like 21 so...i didnt even know exactly how this all works, i guess that you cannot be a legit care giver w/o maintaining a job also, so it kind of a part time thing...i guess i'll say screw it up and find a job and jus grow a couple for myself..

i just read some articles saying people could have legit jobs as caregivers and actually thought it was a legit job like any other one...thanks though
 
Stoner Smurf

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Buddy Ganga said:
wouldn't mind making 30-40k

Here in Mich that is what we call drug dealing.
It is illegal to profit from transfers, through patients or other wise.

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MICHIGAN MEDICAL MARIHUANA ACT of 2008 sec 4.2(e) said:
4.2(e) A registered primary caregiver may receive compensation for costs associated with assisting a registered qualifying patient in the medical use of marihuana. Any such compensation shall not constitute the sale of controlled substances.
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Hmmmm that's weird you say one thing, the law says another. I am going to go ahead and go with the written law on the books, no offense. The law says you can receive compensation and that is not the sale of a controlled substance. So sounds to me like that getting paid for your abilities and your time doesn't make you a drug dealer. Play again.
 
Buddy Ganga

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I'm saying the same thing as the law does.

Don't worry about whether you agree with or understand the law the same as I do, worry about whether a judge or jury will see 30-40k a year as "compensation for costs associated with" ... (their focus will be on the word "costs")

Now remember before you reply that we are talking about the LAW and how it is applied, not what loop holes you think you can use to get around it.
 
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