question about auto
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Pipe Dream
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They can be grown anytime of the year. They can be harvested before cops and thieves begin to search for crops. They are small and can be hidden easily.
I am on my first auto experiment now. Unless you HAVE to, I wouldn't do them. I thought they would be like flowering a clone and really fast but they grow slower than regular plants and aren't appearing worth the effort IMO. There may be some good ones out there, but I have tried 3 different ones now and they are all tiny.
I am on my first auto experiment now. Unless you HAVE to, I wouldn't do them. I thought they would be like flowering a clone and really fast but they grow slower than regular plants and aren't appearing worth the effort IMO. There may be some good ones out there, but I have tried 3 different ones now and they are all tiny.
po'thead
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I've grown autos and the only advantage for me was the quick harvest without having to worry about veg time. I grew the auto ak, and the white russian with great results, I got about an oz per plant and one of the white russians gave me 3 ounces. I grew them under a 400w hps and was getting around 9-10 ounces per harvest from 9 autos.
tip top toker
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If it's anything to think about, if growing indoors, you can harvest a regular plant in the same amount of time and have a far greater selection of genetics, a lot far more superior to those availbe in auto form.
Cloudz2600
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The only allures of autos is the quick seed to harvest time, that you don't need different equipment to flower them under and their small size are perfect for micro/stealth grows. Photos are better in the long run, but if you want a quick oz autos are the better choice. Keep in mind you really can't train them besides LST because they veg for only like 3-4 weeks.
tip top toker
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Size and equiptment are irrelevant, and flowering time is negligible over a reg seed grown 12/12 from germination. Unless outside auto's also require more electricity to grow start to finish.
bobhoop
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Well, lets look at me. I have a tiny stealth space under my stairs. I have two straight siblings living with me that work and go to school and they do not know about the grow area. I have a little free time some days to water my plants. But sometimes I have to go 3 days before I can water again...(they were pissed today) I use a small 2' 4 blub t5, due to heat and space restrictions. (92 watts plus a small fan @ 24/0)
All I want to due is harvest a couple small plants a month. I havent smoked any herb in 25 years due to employment drug testing. I retire in 18 months and want some "'Medicine"' stocked up for retirement.
These plants are small and trouble free. I have very little growing abilities at this time. I burned up, drowned, starved and suffocated the first $160.00 worth of seeds I bought
(yes I suck at this, but about to get it down now). At the current rate I should have around 516 to 1032 grams by retirement.
So as you can see there are times when these little plants have their purposes. And yes I would love to have a big boy grow room some day, but in the mean time, these Autos are a great training tool.
This is Ruby....shes a La Diva, and turned 45 today. She should be ready anytime now...( I think).
All I want to due is harvest a couple small plants a month. I havent smoked any herb in 25 years due to employment drug testing. I retire in 18 months and want some "'Medicine"' stocked up for retirement.
These plants are small and trouble free. I have very little growing abilities at this time. I burned up, drowned, starved and suffocated the first $160.00 worth of seeds I bought
(yes I suck at this, but about to get it down now). At the current rate I should have around 516 to 1032 grams by retirement.
So as you can see there are times when these little plants have their purposes. And yes I would love to have a big boy grow room some day, but in the mean time, these Autos are a great training tool.
This is Ruby....shes a La Diva, and turned 45 today. She should be ready anytime now...( I think).
tip top toker
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You can grow regular plants to exatly the same size as auto's if that is your wish. I don't know where this notion of auto's being smaller than regs comes from. A photoperiod plant can be grown any size you wish.
For example the auto shown above is alrger than some of the photoperiod plants i've flowred out.
For example the auto shown above is alrger than some of the photoperiod plants i've flowred out.
tip top toker
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No advanced growery required. I simply put it into 12/12 from the start.
bobhoop
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Ok sounds kool, becuase I really dont know...That little La diva is my first successful grow.
So your saying I can take say a Barneys Vanilla Kush, or White widow or Strawberry sour disel, put them on a 12/12 under my little 2 bulb- 3000k and 2 bulb 6500k 2' t5 light and in 45 days from germ have 14 to 28 grams of premium bud. Cuz if thats what your saying.....after I finish my next 6 seeds, I will give it a shot.
So now whats your thoughts about the fem vs reg...cuz I know I don't want to be wasting my small space trying to cull out males (just wondering).
So your saying I can take say a Barneys Vanilla Kush, or White widow or Strawberry sour disel, put them on a 12/12 under my little 2 bulb- 3000k and 2 bulb 6500k 2' t5 light and in 45 days from germ have 14 to 28 grams of premium bud. Cuz if thats what your saying.....after I finish my next 6 seeds, I will give it a shot.
So now whats your thoughts about the fem vs reg...cuz I know I don't want to be wasting my small space trying to cull out males (just wondering).
Cloudz2600
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No point in buying reg unless you're interested in breeding. And if what's that tip top is saying bob he may of just showed me the error of my ways.
Actually quite curious if that's the case now. Been wanting to try some White Widow
Actually quite curious if that's the case now. Been wanting to try some White Widow
bobhoop
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Yeal Im also curious, I wonder if its the size of the pot plus the 12/12 lighting is what Tip Top was talking about that would make them smaller and if you would need to go to all 3000k bulbs?
Hey Cloudzy, How did your Northern lights turn out? I was looking at your journal and never did see any final pictures of your stuff, and how was the smoke?.........p.s. this is Ruby on day 46...
And if I can get confirmation that I can do this with
non-Autos in 46 days, I'm forsure switching to premium Regular seeds.
Hey Cloudzy, How did your Northern lights turn out? I was looking at your journal and never did see any final pictures of your stuff, and how was the smoke?.........p.s. this is Ruby on day 46...
And if I can get confirmation that I can do this with non-Autos in 46 days, I'm forsure switching to premium Regular seeds.
Cloudz2600
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That's because I'm only on day 21 lol. Don't get regs get fem seeds man.
And if you're talking about CFLs never use anything besides 2700k and 6500k bulbs.
And if you're talking about CFLs never use anything besides 2700k and 6500k bulbs.
tip top toker
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It depends on the strain, but when 12/12 from seed there is not the time for the plant to grow very large. There is a very comprehensive thread called something like 12/12 from seed, here we go https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/416589-12-12-seed-thread.html
del has gotten upto 8 ounce a plant going 12.12 from seed. With regard to flowering time, i am very surprised to be reading about 6 week flowering autos, most i have looked at in the past have all been 8-9 weeks. The flowering time of a photoperiod (ifi ever state reg in context with auto's i simply mean photoperiod and not regular sexed seeds as opposed to feminized) when grown 12/12 from seed will not be that much longer than the strains flowering time, but as i say, the range of genetics is absolutely huge in comparisson to the available auto's. Outdoors auto's have their use, but indoors, it just does not make any sense to go auto's especially if you're paying for electricity (even with cfl's, every little helps
)
As to pot size, i have only ever used a sigle sized container when doing a soil or coco grow so cannot comment if that keeps them small, but going on some of the photo's i've seen of monsters growing in pots half the size of mine, i do not beleive that it is a factor to bear in mind.
With regards to regs versus fems, there have been quite a few comprisson grows done and more often than not the plant from the regular seed far outperformed the plant from the feminized seed. All depends on your needs, but i personally like to plant seeds ahead of time and find myself a vibrant female to keep as a mother plant for a few grows. But if you're not able to do this then yes, fems an be great, nothing worse than having to cut your potential harvest in half due to a handful of males i your cupboard.
del has gotten upto 8 ounce a plant going 12.12 from seed. With regard to flowering time, i am very surprised to be reading about 6 week flowering autos, most i have looked at in the past have all been 8-9 weeks. The flowering time of a photoperiod (ifi ever state reg in context with auto's i simply mean photoperiod and not regular sexed seeds as opposed to feminized) when grown 12/12 from seed will not be that much longer than the strains flowering time, but as i say, the range of genetics is absolutely huge in comparisson to the available auto's. Outdoors auto's have their use, but indoors, it just does not make any sense to go auto's especially if you're paying for electricity (even with cfl's, every little helps
)As to pot size, i have only ever used a sigle sized container when doing a soil or coco grow so cannot comment if that keeps them small, but going on some of the photo's i've seen of monsters growing in pots half the size of mine, i do not beleive that it is a factor to bear in mind.
With regards to regs versus fems, there have been quite a few comprisson grows done and more often than not the plant from the regular seed far outperformed the plant from the feminized seed. All depends on your needs, but i personally like to plant seeds ahead of time and find myself a vibrant female to keep as a mother plant for a few grows. But if you're not able to do this then yes, fems an be great, nothing worse than having to cut your potential harvest in half due to a handful of males i your cupboard.
bobhoop
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Yup.....I get whatca saying. Even at low wattage it would be nice to turn em off half the time, and if it takes 4 times longer, for 4 times the yield, with half the watts, Sounds like Bargain. Not to mention the genitics and choices of seeds. So Mr. Tip Top in your opinion what should my first Non Auto be
(brand and name).....keep in mind I haven't smoked in 25 years and I just want some kind of kool exotic stimulating smoke.
(brand and name).....keep in mind I haven't smoked in 25 years and I just want some kind of kool exotic stimulating smoke.
tip top toker
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I'm the last person you want to ask for advice when it comes to recommending the actual genetics. I can reel off a list of names of supposedly corking strains, but i've grown few to none of them despite having many of the beans. I ended up growing the clone only version of the exodus cheese almost exlusively for 3 years.
Cloudz2600
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I think you may have sold me toker, my please forgive me for my ignorant statements 
I know this is probably pretty obvious, but all I would I would do with going 12/12 from seed is drop the seed in whatever sized pot(3-5 gallon) hit it with some 2700k and 6500k CFLs, after soil nutes run out hit it with just flowering nutes and wait 2-3 months? What about training besides LST(since that really doesn't do any harm like the other methods)? I know with autos they don't stay in veg too long so it's not recommended. And yea the autos that I see advertised on the Tude mostly say 60-75 days from seed, but in exchange for better genetics I'm willing to wait 2-3 weeks more. I might just try the Pineapple Chunk and Critical Kush I got from the promo next cycle.
That's the great thing about growing your own medicine bob, you can choose w/e strain you want! Just go to attitude seeds and use the search function and narrow it down to w/e you are looking for...Or just spend hours looking at all the strains like I did
Just lightly skimmed the thread and del was using a 600w HPS and actually said
I know this is probably pretty obvious, but all I would I would do with going 12/12 from seed is drop the seed in whatever sized pot(3-5 gallon) hit it with some 2700k and 6500k CFLs, after soil nutes run out hit it with just flowering nutes and wait 2-3 months? What about training besides LST(since that really doesn't do any harm like the other methods)? I know with autos they don't stay in veg too long so it's not recommended. And yea the autos that I see advertised on the Tude mostly say 60-75 days from seed, but in exchange for better genetics I'm willing to wait 2-3 weeks more. I might just try the Pineapple Chunk and Critical Kush I got from the promo next cycle.
That's the great thing about growing your own medicine bob, you can choose w/e strain you want! Just go to attitude seeds and use the search function and narrow it down to w/e you are looking for...Or just spend hours looking at all the strains like I did
Just lightly skimmed the thread and del was using a 600w HPS and actually said
So I'm guessing unless you run 600w of CFL you aren't going to get anything near that. This is my first time with autos too, but from what I've seen you can get some pretty decent yields using maybe a 1/3rd of that.
bobhoop
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Hey cloudz hows it going?...I was just going to point out that home depot has ViaVolt 4 tube 96 watt t5 with free shipping for 89.00. It covers 2 sq ft..or 4' t5 for 125.00 that covers double the space...you may not be intrested but I was just pointing out its a good deal. It comes with 4 6500k but 3000ks are 8 bucks a piece.....good luck with your northern lights.....that may be my next buy in non Auto.
