QAnon cultists get banned.

hanimmal

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I dont understand why she is so hyped, but Chrissy Teigen has a really good point about these online hate groups that are trolling everything not having the right to commit crimes and have a safe space to plan them. That is what I bet has kept the number of crazies so low historically, the lone gunman types are even too much for their local thugs who just want to be dicks and not commit mass murder.

Now with the internet triggering random crazies has been militarized. And is being used as Trump's political platform. We need to get to a level of herd immunity with sanity at the moment, for at least as long as it takes for people to understand how effective this online propaganda attack the Russians are doing to us has been.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/22/twitter-qanon-ban-chrissy-teigen/?hpid=hp_morning-mix-8-12-rr1_mm-qanon:homepage/story-ans
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On Tuesday, Twitter took broad action itself against the right-wing conspiracy theory. The social media company recently deleted more than 7,000 QAnon accounts, the company confirmed to The Washington Post, and is removing QAnon URLs from tweets and working to prevent the conspiracy theory from showing up in recommendations and trending topics. The changes could ultimately affect more than 150,000 accounts.
The company told The Post the move to crack down on QAnon wasn’t directly motivated by Teigen’s high-profile conflict last week, but rather an emerging trend of QAnon groups coordinating to abuse people.

Teigen backed the move, telling a critic who called Twitter’s announcement “censorship” that harassment isn’t free speech.
“You don’t have a ‘right’ to coordinate attacks and make death threats,” Teigen wrote on Twitter. “It is not an ‘opinion’ to call people pedophiles who rape and eat children.”

Twitter is the latest Internet giant forced to reckon with the bizarre but growing conspiracy group, which has been embraced by some GOP candidates, shown up in T-shirts and banners at President Trump’s rallies, and fueled online harassment and violent threats. Two years ago, Reddit banned QAnon message boards for “inciting violence,” and Facebook said in May that it had also removed QAnon pages.

Adherents believe a baseless theory born on the infamous message board 4chan that a high-ranking government official, known as “Q,” communicates through cryptic Web posts that describe a secret mission by Trump to expose a global web of powerful child predators.
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The FBI warned in a bulletin last year that QAnon will probably drive “both groups and individual extremists to carry out criminal or violent acts.” In one high-profile murder trial, the alleged killer’s lawyers say he was a QAnon believer driven to shoot a man he believed to be part of the supposed government plot.

Yet Trump has repeatedly retweeted accounts that promote QAnon material, and nationwide, nearly 600,000 people have voted for candidates who back the theory, The Post’s Philip Bump reported in July.

Nearly 600,000 people have voted for candidates who support QAnon

In recent years, followers have targeted Teigen over false claims linking her to Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy sex offender. Last week, Teigen demanded Twitter crack down on the abuse, saying it was impossible to block so many accounts making threats toward her and her family.

“I have a family and job and there are too many to target,' she tweeted, adding, “They have no idea how hard this is to cope with. They won’t stop until I die. I’m convinced of it. And even then they’ll think of another conspiracy.”

The thousands of QAnon accounts recently deleted by Twitter violated company rules against operating multiple accounts, coordinating harassment against individuals and evading previous bans, the company said.

“We will continue to review this activity across our service and update our rules and enforcement approach again if necessary,” Twitter said in a statement.
 

cowboylogic

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Its a crazy story all the way around. A few days after she deleted the Tweets. Then then came out and said she was hacked 11 years ago and nothing since posted was from her. Nobody should be relentlessly attacked on any platform. But this particular story makes less sense as it unfolds.
 
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hanimmal

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Its a crazy story all the way around. A few days after she deleted the Tweets. Then then came out and said she was hacked 11 years ago and nothing since posted was from her. Nobody should be relentlessly attacked on any platform. But this particular story makes less since as it unfolds.
Twitter said that they were not responding the way they were just because of her, I actually didn't even know about her thing until I was looking for more information on Twitter banning QAnon cultists. I just thought her line was a good one, when people go from having free speech to actively conspiring to commit a crime, it shouldn't matter that it was done online or not.

It is just ridiculous that this has become a actual platform for politicians to use to try to get elected. Anyone in these groups should hopefully be aware that they are fully exposed to the very people who would use all the posts they make to find new ways to attack them.
 

cowboylogic

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Twitter said that they were not responding the way they were just because of her, I actually didn't even know about her thing until I was looking for more information on Twitter banning QAnon cultists. I just thought her line was a good one, when people go from having free speech to actively conspiring to commit a crime, it shouldn't matter that it was done online or not.

It is just ridiculous that this has become a actual platform for politicians to use to try to get elected. Anyone in these groups should hopefully be aware that they are fully exposed to the very people who would use all the posts they make to find new ways to attack them.
I came across the story the same way, researching something else. And yes it is crazy politicians and news networks give Twitter so much weight. As it only represents a very small percentage of the US population. And if you look at the demographics of its users. It becomes even less significant.
 

hanimmal

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I came across the story the same way, researching something else. And yes it is crazy politicians and news networks give Twitter so much weight. As it only represents a very small percentage of the US population. And if you look at the demographics of its users. It becomes even less significant.
Yeah, except it is plenty to sway votes in key districts when you can pinpoint those exact people using the platform. It is not something that people should underestimate. It is not just twitter, this is happening across every platform online.

Anyone that doesn't think they are getting spammed with false information is even more at risk of not realizing they are being manipulated before it becomes a issue in real life.
 

WintersBones

Well-Known Member
I dont understand why she is so hyped, but Chrissy Teigen has a really good point about these online hate groups that are trolling everything not having the right to commit crimes and have a safe space to plan them. That is what I bet has kept the number of crazies so low historically, the lone gunman types are even too much for their local thugs who just want to be dicks and not commit mass murder.

Now with the internet triggering random crazies has been militarized. And is being used as Trump's political platform. We need to get to a level of herd immunity with sanity at the moment, for at least as long as it takes for people to understand how effective this online propaganda attack the Russians are doing to us has been.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/22/twitter-qanon-ban-chrissy-teigen/?hpid=hp_morning-mix-8-12-rr1_mm-qanon:homepage/story-ans
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This is becoming a real problem, and like I was getting into on my thread the other day, it's infecting people everywhere. Who knows when or where one of these crazies decides to take their "war" out of the basement and actually hurt people. And seeing politicans pander to them is even more sickening. But what to do about them. Ignoring then only worked for so long. I browsed some of the these groups in FB the past couple days and this crackdown is only confirmation in their minds that they're correct, it isn't going to deter them. People have been talking about the 'conspiracy singularity' lately, where due to the internet all these different conspiracies are melding into each other and then these people can justify almost anything to themselves, even completely opposite situations can be true at the same time to them. How do you counter a group that is completely illogical and actually embraces insanity as fact?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I dont understand why she is so hyped, but Chrissy Teigen has a really good point about these online hate groups that are trolling everything not having the right to commit crimes and have a safe space to plan them. That is what I bet has kept the number of crazies so low historically, the lone gunman types are even too much for their local thugs who just want to be dicks and not commit mass murder.

Now with the internet triggering random crazies has been militarized. And is being used as Trump's political platform. We need to get to a level of herd immunity with sanity at the moment, for at least as long as it takes for people to understand how effective this online propaganda attack the Russians are doing to us has been.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/22/twitter-qanon-ban-chrissy-teigen/?hpid=hp_morning-mix-8-12-rr1_mm-qanon:homepage/story-ans
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i do. she's a mother, wife, someone's daughter and is human..i guess today is another day of TweetStorm.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Its a crazy story all the way around. A few days after she deleted the Tweets. Then then came out and said she was hacked 11 years ago and nothing since posted was from her. Nobody should be relentlessly attacked on any platform. But this particular story makes less sense as it unfolds.
see now, if i formed an opinion based on your words..?

cite it cowboy.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
This is becoming a real problem, and like I was getting into on my thread the other day, it's infecting people everywhere. Who knows when or where one of these crazies decides to take their "war" out of the basement and actually hurt people. And seeing politicans pander to them is even more sickening. But what to do about them. Ignoring then only worked for so long. I browsed some of the these groups in FB the past couple days and this crackdown is only confirmation in their minds that they're correct, it isn't going to deter them. People have been talking about the 'conspiracy singularity' lately, where due to the internet all these different conspiracies are melding into each other and then these people can justify almost anything to themselves, even completely opposite situations can be true at the same time to them. How do you counter a group that is completely illogical and actually embraces insanity as fact?
It has to start somewhere. I think we need to first pass a law that our lawmakers, while in office, cannot knowingly mislead the public on any issue without consequence. We need to be able to trust our public officials to either shut up and 'no comment' or tell us the truth. They get sworn in, it is time for us to make that count.
 

cowboylogic

Well-Known Member
Yeah, except it is plenty to sway votes in key districts when you can pinpoint those exact people using the platform. It is not something that people should underestimate. It is not just twitter, this is happening across every platform online.

Anyone that doesn't think they are getting spammed with false information is even more at risk of not realizing they are being manipulated before it becomes a issue in real life.
I agree completely. I said a few decades ago social media will be our downfall as a society.
 

WintersBones

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Agreed. The trouble is, getting a law like that passed that is counterproductive for these politicians. I'm of the mind that we need fundamental changes in the electoral system (both US and Canada) in order to foster an environment where those laws can exist. As long as politics is a winner takes all situation it will be appealing for politicians to pander and virtue signal to these fringe groups and it will be extremely difficult to change.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I dont understand why she is so hyped, but Chrissy Teigen has a really good point about these online hate groups that are trolling everything not having the right to commit crimes and have a safe space to plan them. That is what I bet has kept the number of crazies so low historically, the lone gunman types are even too much for their local thugs who just want to be dicks and not commit mass murder.

Now with the internet triggering random crazies has been militarized. And is being used as Trump's political platform. We need to get to a level of herd immunity with sanity at the moment, for at least as long as it takes for people to understand how effective this online propaganda attack the Russians are doing to us has been.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/22/twitter-qanon-ban-chrissy-teigen/?hpid=hp_morning-mix-8-12-rr1_mm-qanon:homepage/story-ans
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social media and AI will be our downfall.
 

hanimmal

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I agree completely. I said a few decades ago social media will be our downfall as a society.
It is such a powerful tool to use against us. It was only a matter of time before con artists figured out how to use it to create themselves cultists on the political level.

Agreed. The trouble is, getting a law like that passed that is counterproductive for these politicians. I'm of the mind that we need fundamental changes in the electoral system (both US and Canada) in order to foster an environment where those laws can exist. As long as politics is a winner takes all situation it will be appealing for politicians to pander and virtue signal to these fringe groups and it will be extremely difficult to change.
Yeah, I am not sure what happens, I am just one human in a sea of humanity too. I am just happy that the actual news companies have at least woke up a bit to the attack lately and are reporting on it (even though not all of them because they would get ripped by the Republicans for outing them).

Unfortunately the 'media' was already (wrongly) defined and is being used as a weapon by our current POTUS.
 

Fogdog

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I agree completely. I said a few decades ago social media will be our downfall as a society.
Social media is neither evil or good, qanon is evil and uses social media.

I think Twitter did the right thing and am not worried one bit about censorship in this instance.

I'd be willing to bet that the printing press was held up to be the downfall of all that is good in us after Gutenberg used it to print bibles and take control of the book from the hands of priests. Same with radio and TV.

Idiots like you blame the platform.
 

radiant Rudy

Well-Known Member
Twitter said that they were not responding the way they were just because of her, I actually didn't even know about her thing until I was looking for more information on Twitter banning QAnon cultists. I just thought her line was a good one, when people go from having free speech to actively conspiring to commit a crime, it shouldn't matter that it was done online or not.

It is just ridiculous that this has become a actual platform for politicians to use to try to get elected. Anyone in these groups should hopefully be aware that they are fully exposed to the very people who would use all the posts they make to find new ways to attack them.
NYC police union boss gets interviewed with a q mug in the frame pegs him as a fucking kooky, half witted loon with zero self respect
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
It has to start somewhere. I think we need to first pass a law that our lawmakers, while in office, cannot knowingly mislead the public on any issue without consequence. We need to be able to trust our public officials to either shut up and 'no comment' or tell us the truth. They get sworn in, it is time for us to make that count.
friend, we are way past what you are suggesting..you're just closing the barn door and that horse is miles away.

citation: senate portion of impeachment- no witnesses; no documents.

we're on the road to full-on dictatorship...Secret Police?
 
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