Putting the flower room into overdrive. 1110 Watts quantum boards + 2000 Watts HPS

jonnynobody

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I like a timer vs a speed controller to control temps/air exchange.
Why is that?

I spent another 3 hours trimming, training, and topping nursery b. Another 10 days and things will be bushed out again, but growing in a pattern I want it all to grow in. I learned from some of my mistakes from the last flower cycle on these new strains. Jager needs intense early training. Same with girl scout cookies. I'll probably phase out GSC. The buds look great in the flower room, but compared to the rest of my strains I just do not see it as a heavy producer. I've got critical mass, jager, and black widow spitting out monster colas. I look at GSC and think - what's the point? Unless the smoke turns out to be something absolutely stellar GSC is being phased out and replaced with black widow, ghost train, jager, or critical mass. All are far superior in bud production and projected yield. Not to mention GSC has been a real motherfucker of a strain to train. It grows long skinny branches that can't support themselves. I mean every single branch. And it only gets worse through flower. Are my feelings about GSC showing? :)

So what I'm learning as I continue this perpetual garden operation is the earlier I begin training in veg the easier my training is in late veg and through flower. If I get sloppy and don't properly train it heavily affects yield. It also makes flowering labor much more intense, because I'm basically addressing branch support issues that should have been addressed in veg. Then with all the plants crammed into the flower room correcting past mistakes are not easy. This time I've learned my lesson. I'm training hard in veg to make my life in flower much easier and more thoughtfully planned out. It's all about learning the strain, and then taming the strain how she needs to be tamed. Each one is different. Black widow and critical mass need almost no support except for the heavy colas that want to fall over due to their mass towards the end of flower. Those 2 strains are just an absolute pleasure to grow. Monster colas with minimal effort. After spreading out the branches I had to put one of the plants in the clone tent. There just wasn't enough room to keep her in nursery b any longer. I need to replace the clone tent with a 4'x8' and then I should be all set.

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PJ Diaz

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If I get sloppy and don't properly train it heavily affects yield. It also makes flowering labor much more intense, because I'm basically addressing branch support issues that should have been addressed in veg. Then with all the plants crammed into the flower room correcting past mistakes are not easy. This time I've learned my lesson. I'm training hard in veg to make my life in flower much easier and more thoughtfully planned out. It's all about learning the strain, and then taming the strain how she needs to be tamed. Each one is different. Black widow and critical mass need almost no support except for the heavy colas that want to fall over due to their mass towards the end of flower.
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jonnynobody

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The harvest begins friday. 3 plants/day is the quota. Usually about 10 hours per day of trimming while we binge watch ID :) 13 plants should be finished in about 4.5 days. Critical mass, black widow, and girl scout cookies will be harvested last. They are all still deep into the ripening stage, but not quite ready. Here are some flower shots. I'll see if I can find my dam iPhone charger somewhere so I can snap good pics. Bought the stupid thing off ebay used for $30 just to take pictures. The camera is the only thing of value on an iPhone :)

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PJ Diaz

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Why don't you harvest them all at once, dry them, then trim them dry. IMO dry trimming is easier, and you don't have the same sort of pressure you have from wet trimming. I used to wet trim for years, and when I finally tried dry trimming, out of time necessity, I never looked back.
 

jonnynobody

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Why don't you harvest them all at once, dry them, then trim them dry. IMO dry trimming is easier, and you don't have the same sort of pressure you have from wet trimming. I used to wet trim for years, and when I finally tried dry trimming, out of time necessity, I never looked back.
I prefer wet trimming. The week leading up to the first day of harvest I begin stripping leaves on the plants. I remove the plant from the room on the day of harvest. Prior to removing any branches I remove the few fan leaves that remain as well as any leaves I can pull of with my fingers. By the time I chop the branch off and set it on the trim table all the wife has to do is give it a quick haircut and it's on to the drying net. It's a fairly efficient process. 2-3 days is the average. We stop for lunch and don't overdo it. We begin taking the plants that are ripe first. There are always a few that need longer to finish than the others. The plants that require more finish time get put to the back of the line and will be the last plants removed from the room for trimming. We also take weekends off from trimming. There really is no pressure. It's an understanding that my quota is 2-3 plants per day. As long as we achieve those quotas everything is easy breezy lemon squeezy. For the 7-10 days the flowers dry I clean out the flower room and perform any maintenance that needs to be done. Then I move the next batch of girls in to veg for another 3 weeks inside the flower room before the next 12/12 flip. Got a new light controller to install at the end of this cycle when the room's clear. Pretty excited about it. I hate having 4 different timers for 6 lights. Those days are almost over and I won't look back once :)
 

jonnynobody

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Dry trimming creates a better product imo..... Fan leaves slow/regulate the drying process when hung.
That's sound advice. Flowers dried too quickly are the worst. I try to keep as large of stem on the flowers as possible in the drying process to slow things down. Then after the stems snap I trim the flowers into storage containers.
 

jonnynobody

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Just snagged a hand held vacuum on amazon for $33.99 to clean the leaf scraps that land allover the flower room floor. Trying to clean it all up with a bucket of water, soap, and a towel is no effing fun. Cleanliness in the flower room is extremely important to me and with as densely packed as the plants are there's no way I can get a shop vac hose in there. I tried. It was bad. I haven't seen one of these things since the 80's or early 90's. Planning to mount the charger and unit in a closet I have in the flower room. Out of the way, but easily accessible. Taking the first plant down tomorrow. One of the maui's is ready. The serious trimming starts on Friday. I suspect all of the maui's will go first followed by critical mass and pineapple express. Jager, GSC, ghost train, and black widows will all go last. Instead of flushing I'm running a ripening formula @ 450ppm.
 

GrOwThMoNgeR

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Just snagged a hand held vacuum on amazon for $33.99 to clean the leaf scraps that land allover the flower room floor. Trying to clean it all up with a bucket of water, soap, and a towel is no effing fun. Cleanliness in the flower room is extremely important to me and with as densely packed as the plants are there's no way I can get a shop vac hose in there. I tried. It was bad. I haven't seen one of these things since the 80's or early 90's. Planning to mount the charger and unit in a closet I have in the flower room. Out of the way, but easily accessible. Taking the first plant down tomorrow. One of the maui's is ready. The serious trimming starts on Friday. I suspect all of the maui's will go first followed by critical mass and pineapple express. Jager, GSC, ghost train, and black widows will all go last. Instead of flushing I'm running a ripening formula @ 450ppm.
Interested to see this Jager monster and the yield. You're retiring it after this run?
 

jonnynobody

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Interested to see this Jager monster and the yield. You're retiring it after this run?
I actually decided to keep it. I only took 1 clone because that's really all I have room for. She's just massive. I will have to hack her branches apart one at a time and in sections most likely, stack them on a tray on my dolly cart, and push it out of the room underneath the canopy. The only saving grace is it will most likely be the last plant harvested. It's just now starting to harden off. Massive flowers. I'll take lots of pics. I suspect 1.5# off of jager alone. At this point I don't think I can afford to not have her in the garden. Epic strain. Hopefully the smoke is as impressive as her growth and cola size.
 

jonnynobody

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Pineapple express
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Ghost train haze #1 × moonshine haze #1
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Girl scout cookies
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Jager
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I'll snap some pics just before lights on tomorrow. gsc pics didn't show the detail I'd like.

So far ghost train is a keeper. Unloading pineapple express. Not a fan of indica dominant strains. Gsc is getting axed too. Not a good producer. Critical mass, black widow, maui, jager, and ghost train all make the cut. Phenomenal genetics. More pics tomorrow. Gsc and ghost train are coming down next.
 

jonnynobody

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I'm dog dick tired from trimming and I ran out of my hash caps 3 days ago I think. I haven't had the time to make another batch, so I've been making firecrackers each night before bed. I decarb 4-5g of flower @ 240 for 40 minutes. I then pour about a tsp of liquid soy lecithin into the decarbed flower and add a healthy dose of peanut butter. Stir. Wrap. Bake @ 300 for 20 minutes. Eat. T minus 20 minutes to fucked up :) It's time consuming at the end of a long day, but the relief it provides is immeasurable. I sleep like a baby all through the night. I still wake up for my usual middle of the night snack and toke visits to the kitchen, but I'm very sleepy when I do get up and I very easily fall right back into a sound sleep. I think it's sacrilege that the medical industry cannot use edible cannabis oils and extracts as one of the most therapeutic sleep medications known to man due to federal prohibition. Who the fuck can't use a better night's sleep? My batch is almost done with the 20 minute cook. I toss the dish in a shallow cold water bath in the kitchen sink. Ready to consume in 5 minutes.

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mistergrafik

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I'm dog dick tired from trimming and I ran out of my hash caps 3 days ago I think. I haven't had the time to make another batch, so I've been making firecrackers each night before bed. I decarb 4-5g of flower @ 240 for 40 minutes. I then pour about a tsp of liquid soy lecithin into the decarbed flower and add a healthy dose of peanut butter. Stir. Wrap. Bake @ 300 for 20 minutes. Eat. T minus 20 minutes to fucked up :) It's time consuming at the end of a long day, but the relief it provides is immeasurable. I sleep like a baby all through the night. I still wake up for my usual middle of the night snack and toke visits to the kitchen, but I'm very sleepy when I do get up and I very easily fall right back into a sound sleep. I think it's sacrilege that the medical industry cannot use edible cannabis oils and extracts as one of the most therapeutic sleep medications known to man due to federal prohibition. Who the fuck can't use a better night's sleep? My batch is almost done with the 20 minute cook. I toss the dish in a shallow cold water bath in the kitchen sink. Ready to consume in 5 minutes.

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Fire crackers! Lol. Tried & true
 

jonnynobody

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So you're eating 5 g's a night? Talk about tolerance!
I know, right? I gave a few hash caps to my neighbor down the road. He shared 1 with his adult son. Dude said 1 of my hash caps was stronger than eating an entire container of gummies he got from the dispensary for $26.50. I eat 3 in the morning and 3 in the evening just to stay balanced when I have them on hand. Taking a day off from trimming today. Too fucking tired and stressed to continue. Might make some hash caps today. I really encourage you guys to give it a shot. The effects are really enjoyable and I sleep great :)
 

jonnynobody

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So I didn't take that day off as planned. Plowed right through ghost train. Tomorrow I'll take a day off and let jager, black widow, and critical mass ripen a bit more. Critical mass comes down next. Then the unholy pig of a cocksucker known as Jager which I expect will take 3 days all by itself. I've considered stringing it up in the flower room due to it's size. It's just fucked up massive.

The unholy cocksucker:
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Black widow:
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The mothafuckin ghost train haze #1 x moonshine haze #1: Does that get your dick hard or what? Jesus fuck!
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What remains:
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