Putting bubbles in your 'ponics

Smuggler

Smuggler

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Hey IS, I have an idea that you might like for dealing with the deeper tubs we are using when the plants are young and the nute level needs to be run higher in the tubs to reach the net pots.

Go get a smaller container and cut a matching hole in the lid of the tub to accept the new container and then cut a hole in the new container to accept the net pot. You can drop the nute level the distance of the inserted container. Make sure the container is big enough to allow light to hit the young plants and go back to your normal bin top once the roots start reaching the nutes. It should save some dollars on wasted nutes and only cost the price of new bins for the tops and the new container to fit into the tub top.

Hope this is useful, S
 
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Smuggler said:
Hey IS, I have an idea that you might like for dealing with the deeper tubs we are using when the plants are young and the nute level needs to be run higher in the tubs to reach the net pots.

Go get a smaller container and cut a matching hole in the lid of the tub to accept the new container and then cut a hole in the new container to accept the net pot. You can drop the nute level the distance of the inserted container. Make sure the container is big enough to allow light to hit the young plants and go back to your normal bin top once the roots start reaching the nutes. It should save some dollars on wasted nutes and only cost the price of new bins for the tops and the new container to fit into the tub top.

Hope this is useful, S
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I'm afraid I'm challenged when it comes to following verbal decscriptions of things like this. If the inner tub holds the water, what is the purpose of the larger outer tub? (see what I mean - duh). One thing I have considered it putting something in the bottom of the too deep tubs to displace water.
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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Illegal Smile said:
I'm afraid I'm challenged when it comes to following verbal decscriptions of things like this. If the inner tub holds the water, what is the purpose of the larger outer tub? (see what I mean - duh). One thing I have considered it putting something in the bottom of the too deep tubs to displace water.
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i just did a controlled fill of my tub, and it needs a bit over 20L to fill it. working on the assumption i'll change it every week at most, then that would be like £3.75 a week on nutrients. i think i can probably almost justify fthat, buts till, 270ml a feed is a tad excessive, although i guess that haveing shit loads of water is gonna allow for a longer time between reservoir changes sohuld something arise.
 
Smuggler

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The larger outer tub still holds the water, the smaller tub only stair steps the net pot further down into the outer tub. The new tub doesn't hold anything except the net pot, nothing on your set up changes. S
 
Dropastone

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Smuggler said:
The larger outer tub still holds the water, the smaller tub only stair steps the net pot further down into the outer tub. The new tub doesn't hold anything except the net pot, nothing on your set up changes. S
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Can you post a picture? It might be a little easier to understand what your talking about.

Peace.
 
Smuggler

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tip top toker said:
basically the smaller tote the net pots hang down from, is in itself a "net pot" and hangs down above the top fo the reservois.

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Exactly right, less waste this way. When the roots hit the water, go to a shallower bin to raise it up a little more, then to your normal top. S
 
Smuggler

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You can also use this approach for 5 gal buckets using a 5 inch net top lid and cutting a hole to accept a 3 inch net pot.

 
Hotsause

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Just got done setting up some of my Bubbleponic system heres a few pics





So far i have 1 Airstone i will be going back to petco to get probably 2 more 14" airstones. Does anybody have any reviews on Penn Plax Bubble Wall thats the one i currently have. Do the airstones really matter??? Also what size Netpots would you recommend? I play on having at least 7 plants if possible 8
 
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I have been told the bubble walls float so if you decide to get one, make sure to weigh it down. I go with the regular air stones not in plastic and just replace them as need be.

How much surface area do you have on that lid? post the measurement and we can figure this thing out.
 
Hotsause

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justparanoid said:
I have been told the bubble walls float so if you decide to get one, make sure to weigh it down. I go with the regular air stones not in plastic and just replace them as need be.

How much surface area do you have on that lid? post the measurement and we can figure this thing out.
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My Res top is 23.9 but im thinkin of going with a smaller 15 gallon top i currently have 18 gallon
 
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justparanoid

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I would try two rows of 4 inch cups if you want eight that is. You may be able to squeeze 5 inch net cups. Just depends on what you like. I went with four 5 inch net cups on my 4 gallon res. four fit perfectly.
 

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Smuggler

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If it might help anyone, I might have an idea for a bin to use in a DWC setup… maybe.

They come in 2 sizes, 10 & 16 gallon but are shallow depth, heavy wall construction and come in black and grey. They are used to mix bags of Ready Mix concrete and you can get them at home improvement centers and good hardware stores. They only cost 5 to 10 dollars and the sizes are roughly, small 27” X 20” X 6” and large 38” X 23” X 8”.

I bought some of them a couple of years ago at my local big box home improvement center and they are TOUGH!!! They don’t come with a top, but you might have something to fit or cover it with plywood or something.

I don’t know all that much about bubbleponics yet but I thought this tip might be useful and possibly, save some money and trouble.

What do you all think, are these too shallow? S

 
tip top toker

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too shallow but actually a damned good idea. there's no reason someone can't create a lid for it that gives it a few more inches of depth :) i.e plywood (varnished/waterproofed and such) with a step up just after it clears the inside rim. basically the opposit to the sunken tote in a tote concept :) i certainly know i'd liike to find a shallower tote but of the same dimension, alas shallower = smaller in every axis :(
 
Hotsause

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Hotsause said:
Just put in my order for my sunleaves durapump air 600 gallon and 4 sunleave airstones from HTG. Cant wait Im not sure what im going with but its ether gonna be a 10,15,or maby ill stick with my 18 gallon totes
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If i go with a 10 gallon would that be a little to much water for only 5 plants what would be an ideal tote for 5 plants? In colorado the law is 6 plant max no more then 4 can be mature(Flowering) so id probably have 1 to 2 mothers and 4 in my system For my 2 mothers im thinking of building 2 single DWC buckets
 
crackerboy

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I personally prefer to use 3.5 or 5 gal buckets. I put one plant per 3.5 gal bucket. It makes life a little easier. If one plant gets root rot they all have root rot. If the PH goes out of control then all the plants are affected. You will also have problems with certain plants being more dominant and choking out the smaller ones. I guess its all about personal preference. The buckets take up a little more space but it is well worth it in my opinion.
 
Hotsause

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crackerboy said:
I personally prefer to use 3.5 or 5 gal buckets. I put one plant per 3.5 gal bucket. It makes life a little easier. If one plant gets root rot they all have root rot. If the PH goes out of control then all the plants are affected. You will also have problems with certain plants being more dominant and choking out the smaller ones. I guess its all about personal preference. The buckets take up a little more space but it is well worth it in my opinion.
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Does the same rules apply for root rot in a Tote system?
 
ColoradoLove

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He was just saying that when there's multiple plants in one res then what happens to one plant happens to all. Buckets are a bit more work since you have to manage each individual res but then you are safer. I do buckets and I live in Colorado as well. I have (3) 5 gallon buckets for flowering and (3) 3 gallon buckets for veg. I just pop the lid off the 3 gallon and put it on the 5 gallon when it's time for 12/12.
 
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