Pruning

greenthumb831

Active Member
Newbie question here lol

How do i prune my plants?
Are the bud sites near the fan leaves?
If i trim a fan leaf off will it ruin the bud site?


Thanks guys
 

Northside.roost

Well-Known Member
prune as you wish, prune fan leaves if it gives tops/bud sites more light, i wouldnt trim until you are in flower however because you would just be wasting shit your plant needs /water, nutrients ect. if the plant needs water and theres none in the soil it will take some from the fan leaves, and if you trim all the fan leaves off then what will happen? Top it, water it, feed it, leave it alone, its a weed it will grow on its own
 

woodydude

Active Member
Sure, dont prune!
1 week before flower, I trim lower branches and use the material as clones. I only trim higher branches when they are damaged.
When you trim a branch/leaf, this stresses the plant and can cause it to stop growing for up to a week so I would NEVER trim in flower. Any potential for stopping growth in flower is just silly in my opinion.
Plants grow through photosynthesis and this occurs in leaves. Photosynthesis needs 3 elements, water, CO2 and light. Without any of these elements, a plant cannot photosynthesise and therefore grow. By removing leaf material that is undamaged, you are removing the plants solar panels.
Many growers thing bud sites need light, this is not true, the leaves need light. I have even experimented by covering bud sites deliberately to see if this is true. Try it for yourself and I guarantee you will never unnecasarily trim another leaf! Cover a bud site with its associated leaves and watch that bud grow. On the same plant, trim some leaves from a particular bud site and watch how the bud fails to develop the same.
In short, only trim what you have to, not to "let light in", this is a common mistake made by people who do not understand what happens in plant physiology.
W
 

Autopsy

Active Member
Sure, dont prune!
1 week before flower, I trim lower branches and use the material as clones. I only trim higher branches when they are damaged.
When you trim a branch/leaf, this stresses the plant and can cause it to stop growing for up to a week so I would NEVER trim in flower. Any potential for stopping growth in flower is just silly in my opinion.
Plants grow through photosynthesis and this occurs in leaves. Photosynthesis needs 3 elements, water, CO2 and light. Without any of these elements, a plant cannot photosynthesise and therefore grow. By removing leaf material that is undamaged, you are removing the plants solar panels.
Many growers thing bud sites need light, this is not true, the leaves need light. I have even experimented by covering bud sites deliberately to see if this is true. Try it for yourself and I guarantee you will never unnecasarily trim another leaf! Cover a bud site with its associated leaves and watch that bud grow. On the same plant, trim some leaves from a particular bud site and watch how the bud fails to develop the same.
In short, only trim what you have to, not to "let light in", this is a common mistake made by people who do not understand what happens in plant physiology.
W
Are you saying you lollipop them a week before flowering? And how does that work? (sorry if I'm going off topic)
 

jondamon

Well-Known Member
Are you saying you lollipop them a week before flowering? And how does that work? (sorry if I'm going off topic)
sounds like he trims lower growth that the light penetration wont get too.

I do the same, i clean up anything between 4-9inches of lower growth.




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Nusky

New Member
if you want to do cool things get into LST and HST. Pruning a fruiting/flowering plant is just stupid. The plant knows best. If the leaf is yellowing you might want to take it off if you know for sure the plant doesn't need it any more. Best thing to do is leave it until you can tug it off easily though.
 

Autopsy

Active Member
sounds like he trims lower growth that the light penetration wont get too.

I do the same, i clean up anything between 4-9inches of lower growth.




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Does this allow the plant to focus more on creating bigger buds on the main colas? In other words does the plant automatically feed the branches left intact more nutrients thus creating bigger buds.

Thanks
 

jondamon

Well-Known Member
Does this allow the plant to focus more on creating bigger buds on the main colas? In other words does the plant automatically feed the branches left intact more nutrients thus creating bigger buds.

Thanks
I aint going to really comment about bigger buds from doing it, it does help airflow under the canopy, i also trim due to these areas being too far away from my light once stretching is complete.


Some pics of my room and Big bud at the start of week 6 12/12



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Autopsy

Active Member
I aint going to really comment about bigger buds from doing it, it does help airflow under the canopy, i also trim due to these areas being too far away from my light once stretching is complete.


Some pics of my room and Big bud at the start of week 6 12/12



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Beautiful set up & some nice looking nugs.
 

Charlie Who?

Active Member
Sure, dont prune!
1 week before flower, I trim lower branches and use the material as clones. I only trim higher branches when they are damaged.
When you trim a branch/leaf, this stresses the plant and can cause it to stop growing for up to a week so I would NEVER trim in flower. Any potential for stopping growth in flower is just silly in my opinion.
Plants grow through photosynthesis and this occurs in leaves. Photosynthesis needs 3 elements, water, CO2 and light. Without any of these elements, a plant cannot photosynthesise and therefore grow. By removing leaf material that is undamaged, you are removing the plants solar panels.
Many growers thing bud sites need light, this is not true, the leaves need light. I have even experimented by covering bud sites deliberately to see if this is true. Try it for yourself and I guarantee you will never unnecasarily trim another leaf! Cover a bud site with its associated leaves and watch that bud grow. On the same plant, trim some leaves from a particular bud site and watch how the bud fails to develop the same.
In short, only trim what you have to, not to "let light in", this is a common mistake made by people who do not understand what happens in plant physiology.
W
This is totally sound advice. However, I START removing a few fan leaves eary in VEG to get the plant USED to losing a few fan leaves. Then, as the plant goes into flower, I continue to remove fans that are causing shade and /or stopping air flow. I know, I know....this is against everybody's thought on the removal of fan leaves.

The thing is, I read a post in another forem, including pictures, by a guy who has been growing for "decades" According to him, while it's TRUE that a pllant grown outside should never be defoliated because it NEEDS it's fans to store energy in case of environmental factors such as days of no rain or days of too much rain or days of little sun or days odf toomuch intense sun....a plant grown inside with daily, regulated amounts of light, water and food doesnt need "storage". Therefore, removing fan leaves (as long as the plant has been accustomed to defoliatioj from early veg) is no problem. In other words, IF you plan to defoliate, it's important to start removing some fans early in veg, NOT suddenly, in flower.

CW
 

woodydude

Active Member
Though I dont like doing it myself, if a plant is pruned from very early on, it doesnt take it as long to get over the shock as it develops. Leave it until it is in flower and it is a big shock for the plant to deal with.

I have done a lot of experimenting since there are so many opinions on every aspect of growing, this is an area I have experimented with and for me, trimming lower foliage, as in the pics from Jondamon while still in veg is ok. It does not cost yield, if anything, it increases yield since the plant can devote its energies to the bid sites it has left rather than the low down popcorn buds which I always end up making hash from. They make perfect material for clones rather than the tops of plants.
Since I mostly SCROG, trimming the lower stuff is essential for air movement, it will never get any light anyway.

I have seen plants trimmed heavily as Charlie says and have done so myself but I hate the look of heavily trimmed plants and have not found it beneficial so I dont do it.

I know most in this section of the site are newer growers but I say experiment. The only way you will find out what suits you is to play around with your plants. Are you a person who reads one book and thinks they are an expert on the subject or do you read lots of books and experiment for yourself? I know which I think is more of an expert!
As long as you love growing, are commited and passionate weather you take my advice or not isnt important. Hearing a different point of view is!
Peace W
 

dannyboy602

Well-Known Member
@jondamon...Nice buds. I grow in soil but I like what you've done in those clay balls. Idk what they're called.
 

Autopsy

Active Member
Do you honestly think i have no ventilation? lol.

Here's a link to my closet build thread

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/441212-my-new-closet-re-design.html

I even added extra attic ventilation for better airflow through my exhausting area.



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Ah, I wasn't saying you didn't I just couldn't see it. The most conventional way that I have most ventilation is from the sides. I see you're through the roof. I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way. (was just curious)
 

jondamon

Well-Known Member
Ah, I wasn't saying you didn't I just couldn't see it. The most conventional way that I have most ventilation is from the sides. I see you're through the roof. I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way. (was just curious)
No not taken wrong at all just my english humour. Yes through the roof from soffit vents i installed , then i added those little plastic rib shaped vents to my felting etc, almost 3months of work as i had to move the closet door into another wall to change which room in my house the closet opened into.



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