Proof of Where GOD Came From

WeedPublican

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The truth of how civilization started, you'll be glad you came across this....


[video=youtube;uAm-kbzT7xw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAm-kbzT7xw[/video]
 

tyler.durden

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tl;dw. I've seen an animation starring this little robot dude before, it may have even been this one. He states outlandish things as facts with nothing credible to support the claims. There definitely an agenda here. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any credible sources to back up his more outlandish 'facts'...
 

Padawanbater2

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First claim, we don't know how the pyramids of Giza were created.

Yes, we do. We know exactly how, with absolute models. Lots of people + lots of time = pyramids.

And yes, modern tools and machinery could absolutely create ancient pyramids.
 

dashcues

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First claim, we don't know how the pyramids of Giza were created.

Yes, we do. We know exactly how, with absolute models. Lots of people + lots of time = pyramids.

And yes, modern tools and machinery could absolutely create ancient pyramids.
Yeah...had to stop there.Just got out of a looooooong debate about the pyramids.
I finally gave up.It was aliens.:eyesmoke:
 

Padawanbater2

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It's really strange how if something hasn't been explained, and some things that have been extensively explained (evolution), those types of people automatically conclude aliens or God, using a completely different set of standards than the one they used to dismiss the mountains of evidence.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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Whenever you stop worrying about labor laws and fair pay, the pyramids do not look so hard to build. People just don't comprehend the amount of time and labor that goes into something like that. Craftsmanship at its finest! lol
 

WeedPublican

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Well at the end of the day the universe is trillions of light years wide, for people to think that we are the only civilization is ignorance at its finest.
 

Heisenberg

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Well at the end of the day the universe is trillions of light years wide, for people to think that we are the only civilization is ignorance at its finest.
Show me the person who says it is unlikely that other life is out there. I have never seen that argument made outside of religion.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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It's really strange how if something hasn't been explained, and some things that have been extensively explained (evolution), those types of people automatically conclude aliens or God, using a completely different set of standards than the one they used to dismiss the mountains of evidence.
Its also kinda funny how many people are against the idea of ancient advanced knowledge when its clear that those structures could not be made with ropes, human labor, or soft metals, yet they still side with the simple explanation that doesnt make them question existence because that option makes them more comfortable.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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I've watched this before and I dont know what to think about it, its quite far fetched for even me to wrap my mind around, I just know something amazing was going on back then. Very entertaining though. Im going to watch Cloud Atlas in a bit, I wonder how many skeptics will be there calling bullshit lol.
 

Padawanbater2

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Its also kinda funny how many people are against the idea of ancient advanced knowledge when its clear that those structures could not be made with ropes, human labor, or soft metals, yet they still side with the simple explanation that doesnt make them question existence because that option makes them more comfortable.
I've watched this before and I dont know what to think about it, its quite far fetched for even me to wrap my mind around, I just know something amazing was going on back then. Very entertaining though. Im going to watch Cloud Atlas in a bit, I wonder how many skeptics will be there calling bullshit lol.
I've yet to see a single structure that couldn't have been made by ancient man. Just because you may not know how they did it doesn't mean it could not have been done.

I saw Cloud Atlas today, way too many characters and time changes for me to follow, I didn't really like it..
 

Heisenberg

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Its also kinda funny how many people are against the idea of ancient advanced knowledge when its clear that those structures could not be made with ropes, human labor, or soft metals, yet they still side with the simple explanation that doesnt make them question existence because that option makes them more comfortable.
Why would questioning existence make us uncomfortable? I think the idea of ancient structures being made with the help of aliens is an awesome concept, I would find it quite exciting if there were any evidence. It would mean the aliens might come back one day and explain our existence to us. What a tantalizing thing to imagine. Following Occam's razor is proper logic, it has nothing to do with comfort.

Perhaps the idea of comfort gives you an out which lets you dismiss our positions.

"Great sweeping generalizations, particularly those purporting to know the thoughts and feelings of other people, are almost always wrong. It doesn't really matter whether you're a skeptic or a believer, black or white, gay or straight, Eastern or Western: when you catch yourself thinking you know the minds of others — and most especially when you assign them some sort of sub-human, amoral, or thoughtless traits — it's almost certainly you who is in the wrong." - Brian Dunning


"The whole reason researchers exist is to learn new stuff. Nobody funds research that's intended to not learn anything. Every working scientist's career is defined by his new discoveries; there is no work to be done, and no salary to be found, in accepting irrefutable truths and doing nothing. I've never met an archaeologist or anthropologist who wouldn't love to discover evidence of a superior early civilization. The reason we don't think there were any is not that we have an inflated sense of ourselves, it's that there's no evidence or record of it." - Brian Dunning
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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I've yet to see a single structure that couldn't have been made by ancient man. Just because you may not know how they did it doesn't mean it could not have been done.

I saw Cloud Atlas today, way too many characters and time changes for me to follow, I didn't really like it..
You dont know how they did it as well and you only side with the more simple explanation because we have fancy toys that we think are advanced.

I loved the show, it was a little confusing at first but I caught on to the pattern of the stories soon enough. Even though it was three hours long, I wish it was longer so the stories could mesh together more smoothly. I shoulda read the book first.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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"Great sweeping generalizations, particularly those purporting to know the thoughts and feelings of other people, are almost always wrong. It doesn't really matter whether you're a skeptic or a believer, black or white, gay or straight, Eastern or Western: when you catch yourself thinking you know the minds of others — and most especially when you assign them some sort of sub-human, amoral, or thoughtless traits — it's almost certainly you who is in the wrong." - Brian Dunning
And you are not guilty of this at all when discussing with or describing the 'believers' ?
 

Padawanbater2

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You dont know how they did it as well and you only side with the more simple explanation because we have fancy toys that we think are advanced.

I loved the show, it was a little confusing at first but I caught on to the pattern of the stories soon enough. Even though it was three hours long, I wish it was longer so the stories could mesh together more smoothly. I shoulda read the book first.
I don't need to know exactly how they did it, there is strong evidence to suggest how they did it, even stronger evidence as to when they did it. We have no evidence of aliens or divine intervention doing it. That's the point. As Heis mentioned, if aliens did it, that would be the coolest shit I've ever heard of, not only that, it would completely prove that we're not alone in the universe, one of the biggest questions we can ask as humans. I would welcome the idea. There is just nothing at all that says they did. The absence of evidence is not evidence. Just because we don't know with 100% certainty how it was done does not mean we can justifiably introduce unverifiable conclusions.

How do we know a different species all together didn't do it? Why is asking how aliens did it any more valid than some ancient unidentified Earthbound species? Both are equally as valid because there is no evidence for either. Meanwhile, we know humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, we know ancient humans built structures to last through time, and we know it is possible to accomplish such feats with only human innovation, ingenuity and a lot of time to do it. This suggests it was ancient man that did it. We even have writings from ancient Egypt detailing how they did it.


I had a really tough time following the movie, I also didn't like the language the post apocalyptic tribe used, I could barely understand it, or the facial FX, they seemed a little off and not very believable, especially the last few scenes here the Chinese girl was supposed to be an English girl, I didn't buy that for a second.. And I thought the ending would tie everything together a little better than it did..

Titties though.. so that was cool.
 

Heisenberg

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You dont know how they did it as well and you only side with the more simple explanation because we have fancy toys that we think are advanced.
Following the simplest explanation of evidence is called parsimony. Can you name any phenomena in which the explanation which made unjust assumptions turned out to be correct?
 

ganja man23

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The truth of how civilization started, you'll be glad you came across this....


[video=youtube;uAm-kbzT7xw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAm-kbzT7xw[/video]
you should rephrase title to something like "history of humans". or "where the WORD god comes from". title tricked me since 'god' energy has always existed and will always exist.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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I don't need to know exactly how they did it, there is strong evidence to suggest how they did it, even stronger evidence as to when they did it. We have no evidence of aliens or divine intervention doing it. That's the point. As Heis mentioned, if aliens did it, that would be the coolest shit I've ever heard of, not only that, it would completely prove that we're not alone in the universe, one of the biggest questions we can ask as humans. I would welcome the idea. There is just nothing at all that says they did. The absence of evidence is not evidence. Just because we don't know with 100% certainty how it was done does not mean we can justifiably introduce unverifiable conclusions.

How do we know a different species all together didn't do it? Why is asking how aliens did it any more valid than some ancient unidentified Earthbound species? Both are equally as valid because there is no evidence for either. Meanwhile, we know humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, we know ancient humans built structures to last through time, and we know it is possible to accomplish such feats with only human innovation, ingenuity and a lot of time to do it. This suggests it was ancient man that did it. We even have writings from ancient Egypt detailing how they did it.


I had a really tough time following the movie, I also didn't like the language the post apocalyptic tribe used, I could barely understand it, or the facial FX, they seemed a little off and not very believable, especially the last few scenes here the Chinese girl was supposed to be an English girl, I didn't buy that for a second.. And I thought the ending would tie everything together a little better than it did..

Titties though.. so that was cool.
You do not know that those feats are possible with basic human innovation. Are you referring to that old guy moving that rock on the discovery channel? Please, that doesnt even explain how Coral Castle was made, never mind the pyramids or any other massive ancient structures. Also, the perfect sculpting of giant granite blocks at Puma Punku was supposed to of been done with copper tools and chicken bones? The best stone masons of the world are baffled by this and wouldnt even bother attempting it with their technology. One of the only descriptions of moving these stones was done by Incas of a later generation. They tried to achieve what their predecessors have but they couldnt even drag one stone over a span of years with 20000 people. Do you honestly see only the slimmest chance if it being done by advanced knowledge? (btw, I do believe in the alien part, but I dont think they were much more intelligent than humans at the time, because we are a species with amnesia).

Yeah they should of just hired look-a-like actors for different races. It was a tough challenge though, the author did say the book was unfilmable.
 

ganja man23

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I don't need to know exactly how they did it, there is strong evidence to suggest how they did it, even stronger evidence as to when they did it. We have no evidence of aliens or divine intervention doing it. That's the point. As Heis mentioned, if aliens did it, that would be the coolest shit I've ever heard of, not only that, it would completely prove that we're not alone in the universe, one of the biggest questions we can ask as humans. I would welcome the idea. There is just nothing at all that says they did. The absence of evidence is not evidence. Just because we don't know with 100% certainty how it was done does not mean we can justifiably introduce unverifiable conclusions.

How do we know a different species all together didn't do it? Why is asking how aliens did it any more valid than some ancient unidentified Earthbound species? Both are equally as valid because there is no evidence for either. Meanwhile, we know humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, we know ancient humans built structures to last through time, and we know it is possible to accomplish such feats with only human innovation, ingenuity and a lot of time to do it. This suggests it was ancient man that did it. We even have writings from ancient Egypt detailing how they did it.


I had a really tough time following the movie, I also didn't like the language the post apocalyptic tribe used, I could barely understand it, or the facial FX, they seemed a little off and not very believable, especially the last few scenes here the Chinese girl was supposed to be an English girl, I didn't buy that for a second.. And I thought the ending would tie everything together a little better than it did..

Titties though.. so that was cool.
i would consider the presence of certain genes not found in hominids as my evidence. again not credible by scientific terms but valid to many nonetheless. i look at the presence of certain genes as the answer that our genetics have been "experimented" with. i believe we were implanted the genes necessary for intelligence since they are not simple hydrocarbon based genes. they're not found in any other animal (i realize this may be because we're unique, but not unique enough to randomly come across such complexity in our genetics).

they are extremely complex and i chose to believe that they are not created by chance (i choose to believe the same for dna). we are just cracking the function of human genes (not to mention the other 95%+ of the dna found in our nucleus). anyways in the future we will see more developement in the human genome. keep in mind we only proved the existance of dna in the 1950s (while information about it can be found as early as 10 000 years ago). with respect to age, genetic research is a new born baby with the softest tush imaginable. it will literally be the most solid and uncontroversial aspect to finding out about our past. our genetics tell a story, i can't wait to find out how it began.

just a side note: i find it interesting that the earliest known civilization believed that not only did aliens exist, they were essentially created by them. many tell similar stories as well about creation of mankind and how it "unfolded". i think in attempt to try and justify our intelligence as leaders on the surface of this planet we find that we must often criticize a lack of information. there's nothing wrong with that because it has pushed us forward in some cases. chances are it will not however. the method of criticism claiming there is a lack of sufficient evidence is based upon disproving a currently circulating hypothesis, in which case any success means we must disregard the information while the method does not offer a replacement. ultimately we find ourselves one step backward. don't get me wrong, a certain level is necessary to ensure we end up with the correct information but it's important to allow a certain amount of information to circulate in order to justly criticize what is right and wrong, not criticize because science can't prove something yet.

i want to add one last thing and tie two of my points together. i said that the first recorded reference to DNA can go back as far as 10,000 years (the sumerian civilization and the anunnaki). we discovered genes approximately 11,950 years later so by using the "lack of evidence theory" and simply dismissing the idea of genes because we cannot prove it then ultimately we would have been blocking it from being explored whereas we could have been working all those years to prove its existence.
 
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