Problems with rooting clones

Im in the first weeks with these clones and they aren't looking good. They look like they're dead to me but i just put them in hydroton clay pebbles and some very low nutrients trying to get them back to life. The ph i was using just arrowhead bottles for the first 3 days.. (probably a big mistake). I got the ph just below 6 now and keepin the temp between 70-80F...... with a humidity of 90 to 100 percent... Let me know if u can give some advice to save these sad little girls

rice420 said:

Im in the first weeks with these clones and they aren't looking good. They look like they're dead to me but i just put them in hydroton clay pebbles and some very low nutrients trying to get them back to life. The ph i was using just arrowhead bottles for the first 3 days.. (probably a big mistake). I got the ph just below 6 now and keepin the temp between 70-80F...... with a humidity of 90 to 100 percent... Let me know if u can give some advice to save these sad little girls

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They are not looking that bad, I would go to 18/6 and give your girls some rest time

nute burn, overwatering and lock out are possible culprits

are there drain holes in those cups?
the r/w is soaked
lower humidity, 60% rh for rooted/established clones.

Discontinue nutrients for now.
Did you rinse the clay balls well?

Ok thanks for the advise... so im gonna give them some darkness... and they have pretty good roots coming out of the rockwool about a quarter inch out the bottom.. so ur saying i should leave the humidity to 60.. So i left the cover off of the tray im growing in. The rockwool ive been letting dry out and been needing to water about 2 to 3 times a day.

Yes the cups have drain holes so they wont stay soaked.. Does my watering seem correct. I put very small amount of nutes (1/8 recommended for seedlings) just because the tips were turning yellow on all of them, due to (i think needing nutrients having roots already and needing nutrients).... But this was just used from yesterday on so nute burn isnt the cause of these pics lookin yellow on tips

No i didnt rinse the clayballs. i was testing the ph of the runoff from the cups and it significantly raised it changing it to a base. Is that because i didn't rinse the clay??

So does my watering seem correct and should i just use Ph of ???? for distilled water instead of any nutes right now???

Yes rinsing the clay balls is recommended.

what was the reading of run off?

5.5 is good ph for R/W for watering, a lite nute or cloning gel in the water will be ok

what is your choice of medium and technique next? DWC, flood and drain etc.

yellowing does happen when roots develope in clones,

they should be 2 inches below fluros, you got them that close?

Choice of medium and technique next to be used i have a flood and drain table... but i think im going to use a drip system i picked up from the hydro store last time and never used..
The problem is i wont have these babies to their home until tomorrow so ive been just watering them by hand for now

Ya ive heard the yellowing meant they were rooted so i thought i should put em in these small net pots in the plastic cups with hydroton with a small amt of nutes.. Good idea or Bad???

I plan on transplantin them into these big smart pots that are like these bags that u just fill up with hydroton]

not best idea. with hydro technique, once roots protrude they are going to be needing water and lots of it

edited my post, are they close enough to the light?

what kind of lighting are they under?

they yellowing is the newer growth feeding off of old growth

Ok so thats not enough watering three times a day??? soaking the rockwool and letting the cup sit in it for 5 to 10 min each watering. (( I place a plastic cup with no holes under the plastic cup with holes before letting it drain for 5 to 10 min)). Its the best i can do before i get to my equipment tomorrow.

Im growing under fluorescents and a led light they are about 5 inches away or less from the plants..

rice420 said:

Ok so thats not enough watering three times a day??? soaking the rockwool and letting the cup sit in it for 5 to 10 min each watering. (( I place a plastic cup with no holes under the plastic cup with holes before letting it drain for 5 to 10 min)). Its the best i can do before i get to my equipment tomorrow.

Im growing under fluorescents and a led light they are about 5 inches away or less from the plants..

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don't soak the R/W.

Imagine it is a mini flood and drain.
You raise the water to just below the R/W.
then drain.
We can not use standard measure when this far off the reservation haha, or resovior (sp?).

I have a clone now that will laydown after 16-18 hrs of lite. perk back up her own.

you are watering too little in the wrong way I think.

Don't think they are in critical condition.

Remember to rinse clay next time, no nutes so soon and get room ready before clones root

Slab said:

don't soak the R/W.

Imagine it is a mini flood and drain.
You raise the water to just below the R/W.
then drain.
We can not use standard measure when this far off the reservation haha, or resovior (sp?).

I have a clone now that will laydown after 16-18 hrs of lite. perk back up her own.

you are watering too little in the wrong way I think.

Don't think they are in critical condition.

Remember to rinse clay next time, no nutes so soon and get room ready before clones root

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Oh ok so until tomorrow when i get them actually in my own place and dont have to water them like this what would u consider me doing??? Problem was they rooted way sooner then i thought.

I will rinse the clay pebbles when i get them in there final home.

So are u saying that if i get them in darkness for six hours they will perk back up??? And how should i water for the time being...

rice420 said:

Oh ok so until tomorrow when i get them actually in my own place and dont have to water them like this what would u consider me doing??? Problem was they rooted way sooner then i thought.

I will rinse the clay pebbles when i get them in there final home.

So are u saying that if i get them in darkness for six hours they will perk back up??? And how should i water for the time being...

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Ive seen this technique used but didnt know if i was I aready too far along to do it?

rice420 said:

Ive seen this technique used but didnt know if i was I aready too far along to do it?

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Yeah when you first make cuts you trim leaves.

i think you were drowning them by letting them soak 10 mins.

Just run the water thru for a couple of mins around the rockwool and avoid soaking the r/w it for now


hydroton in 3 gal pots gets flooded 5 times lights on.

You will have to research top feeding. I used to top feed with r w slabs way back when. 15 on 45 off is what I recollect.

What kind of pots are you going to use?

Slab said:

Yeah when you first make cuts you trim leaves.

i think you were drowning them by letting them soak 10 mins.

Just run the water thru for a couple of mins around the rockwool and avoid soaking the r/w it for now


hydroton in 3 gal pots gets flooded 5 times lights on.

You will have to research top feeding. I used to top feed with r w slabs way back when. 15 on 45 off is what I recollect.

What kind of pots are you going to use?

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ya i'll water them for shorter and im plannin on putting them in smart pots tom ... you can check out them on smartpots.com...
Thanks for the help by the way I'll put some pics of them tomorrow during the day when i get my complete set up.

ok so i transplanted them out of the plastic cups finally and got them into there home.... They got really droopy yesterday because i think i have been overwatering them due to not having the drip system set up yet.... Can somebody advise me on how i should water them once i get it set up..

They are all rooted nicely but somehow i feel they are on the edge of survival with me not knowing how to water them properly...

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/207140-drip-overwatering-problems-experienced-persons.html

good thread for info.