Pro Grow LED Run #1, Super Cali Haze, Onyx, Blackbriar, and Blue Diesel

Don't doubt it man I'm sold, I've read enough pos reviews. Just trying to figure out size I really need, what I'd ideally like to do is pull out the divider in the closet, ideally a 2x5x5 tent (which no one I've found makes) so I could vent out of a closed closet area and with a small quality fan vent the area and make it absurdly stealthy in what is already a spare bedroom used for storage.

Hmm closest I can find to those dimensions would be the mother keeper tent on htgsupply, the 4x2x5 from gotham, and the secret jardin dr120w. Of those the gotham tent seems to be the best option, it's $25 less than the htg one and the same dimensions as the secret jardin ($50 more).

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update (although not sure of any of the plant's exact age). The caramel is the oldest, the blackjack and super sativa are about the same age, the la bella afrodita a week or so younger. Also I labeled this time so you know what the hell you're looking at (thanks Prez). The I really hope the blackjack stops growing and starts flowering because its already getting too big for my closet. I've been feeding the caramel Cha Ching for the last week and have cut the Tiger Bloom out of the picture. She'll be Sledgehammered about a week from now and pure water till harvest. The rest are still gettin the normal doses of cal mag plus, tiger bloom, and bush dr. microbe brew.

I moved the two tallest plants to the same side so I could have the panels spreading side lighting evenly as I noticed that when I have them at staggered heights the lower one blocks potential side light from the taller and doesn't provide side lighting to the tall plant (if that makes any sense).

Feel free to chime in with your thoughts on the "super sativa" cause I'm a bit upset with Big Buddah on this but will wait for the smoke to give final verdict - from the leaves alone, doesn't really look like a sativa plant to me. I've grown some heirloom sativa, which is total pain in the ass, but the smoke is quite legendary. This looks nothing like a sativa to me.

full closet view pic, forgot to upload it on the last post.

what lights are what hoss in the above pic

I agree, the super sativa doesn't look to be sativa dominant to me either. I wonder if the appearance could be due to the introduction of ruderalis into the genetics to get the auto-flowering effect out a sativa origin strain. I feel like the amount of crossbreeding necessary to get a sativa to flower with under 12 hours darkness would definitely impact the plant's appearance. But as you said, you'll have to wait until the smoke to see what the true outcome is. If it doesn't start to thin out as it flowers and if it finishes too quickly I wouldn't have much hope for it though.

Btw man, I finally started a new journal for my next grow with the haight light. I should have a female chosen for the grow by the beginning of next week, then gonna start some Mi5 while the photos revert to veg and grow enough to fill the scrog screen.

good plan, you'll be happy with the MI-5. The strain really shouldn't be judged by the last one I grew in this journal, that was a freak whimp. They're generally very reliable autos for 1 oz plus yields.

So far the only real sativa dom auto I've found that really reminds me of some old school sativa photo period is Auto Assassin from Short Stuff which will probably get revisted in grows to come if the "Super Sativa" doesn't do it for me.

A bit excited that while the caramel should be ready soon, the other three should be ready right around x-mas which will mean I get to play santa with some nuggets to those who know me well - always fun.

leogets said:

what lights are what hoss in the above pic

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two early 2011 7 band PG 180s on full illumination on the left hand side, one late 2011 14 band PG 180 set on full illumination on right hand side, and one 2010 model PG 250 with just the flower spectrum turned on on the far right hand side of the closet.

The 250 is my go to "finisher", it has way more diodes than the 180 model in the same size panel and far more in the flowering spectrum than the veg. On the 180s they're an equal balance of veg and flower diodes, the 250 has to have somewhere in the 4 to 1 ratio in favor of flowering diodes so whichever plant is winning the race gets to soak up some 250 love.

speaking of some good ol sativa autos - some pictures of some of the first auto assassins I grew under high power cfls and a old school 150w hps. The plant off in the right corner is a snow-ryder, the rest are auto assassin. Looks far more sativaish than the "super sativa" I've got cookin now.

that set up used 845w of combined CFL and HID (obviously mostly cfl), final yields were about an oz per plant maybe a little less, but I was working with smaller pots that were not air pots and didn't have my nute schedule dialed in at this point in my game.

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Blackjack is as tall as my old dresser. I think I'll wait to plant after the caramel is done and put a panel on tilt to finish her.

Caramel getting pretty close, and the super sativa has now started sprouting leaves and more importantly flowers that look like a sativa so I'll go ahead and eat my words from earlier posts I'm happy with it's looks for an auto sativa.

Bellla is small put not as tiny as the MI-5 I had on the last run. She is starting to flower and looks like she'll be an early finisher.

Starting flush on the caramel this week ...

Plants look good man, that caramel is getting close! Saw a new auto on attitude, link is below, what are your thoughts on it?

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/short-stuff-seeds-super-stinky-autoflowering-feminized/prod_3863.html

Well can't comment on that one but I have high hopes for it and would order a single seed if I'm able to purchase it that way but would be skittish about ordering a full set of those. I ordered a 5 pack of super cali haze, some grown under hps, some grown under led, some didn't fucking germinate (2 out of five and I've germmed some seeds I'm blaming this on them). None of my super cali haze made it through to harvest while I have grown a lot of other strains with success.

I hope this is the super cali haze that should have been mailed to me six months ago when it first came out. I'm a huge fan of everything from Short Stuff except either of the blue diesels (potency issues) and the super cali haze (nearly impossible to grow).

I've chatted with others who also didn't find anything super about the super cali haze in their gardens either.

That experience alone drove me away from the 'super auto'. IMO if your plant takes 120 days to go from seed to harvest you might as well be growing photoperiod mj.

Kind of a rant, I know - but I tossed about 60 usd against the wall and a lot of time fucking around with that strain that could have been better used growing a regular auto.

I hope Short Stuff's new one is a winner, stitch nine times out of ten brings the funk in a real sort of way, but I will probably look to see what others experience with this new strain before I decide to take the plunge.

Caramel looks nice. Never tried it. I read it tastes like caramel. Mmmm.

It's really one of the few flavor strains I've had that lives up to its name

hoss12781 said:

IMO if your plant takes 120 days to go from seed to harvest you might as well be growing photoperiod mj.

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........ hell ye, lls

Like what your doing here Hoss.......great job and subbed

so if your flushing the caramel now how long till you think you'll chop her? what made you decide time wise? trich color? or just time and experience with the strain? sorry to pick your brain but you've totally convinced me to grow this strain and i'm just doing my homework she looks amazing i'll be interested in what you yield from her.