preharvest flush

GoldenGanja13 · Jul 27, 2009

After you fim at 4-6 " you wait until she puts on a few inches before doing any more to her, Clone, fim again, etc.
She (7.5) went in at 22" and came out just around 4'.
I had her in a 3 gallon pot, got there slowly.

georgi345 · Jul 27, 2009

brilliant!!
:bigjoint:

i'm sold... though i don't have anywhere near the vertical space you have (i'm working in two 32" high cabinets with 2gal pots), so i'm wondering if a stretching-sativa like the a.u.h. is still going to need some sort of training (naughty little girl that she is), especially during flower? because i have so few plants under the ufo i'm able to provide an adequate amount of lateral space in which to promote horizontal growth, so anything that helps 'em lovelys' bush is right by me.

many thanks again for all the great infos! and
cheers,
-g
:joint:

georgi345 · Jul 27, 2009

oh and btw
this is totally gratuitous, but i really must say that ravi shankar (however cliched it might be) is the bomb. i play ragas (as well as buxtehude, marais, ravel, ud music, and slavonic chant) to my plants...
'can't hurt any, right?

bongsmilie

GoldenGanja13 · Jul 27, 2009

When I grew thai (one time) it had 2' arms thats 4 feet across. And that was after I had to top it in veg. SO that could be why. Any ways I just grab the main branch like in the middle (between middle and top). and gentley pull her to one side useing my back fingers for her to rest on as I pull her to a 45 angle and tie her down. So now she looks like a 7 then after 1-2 days the top will bend towards the light.

GoldenGanja13 · Jul 27, 2009

georgi345 said:
oh and btw
this is totally gratuitous, but i really must say that ravi shankar (however cliched it might be) is the bomb. i play ragas (as well as buxtehude, ravel, ud music, and slavonic chant) to my plants...
'can't hurt any, right?

I beleive in it, and High times had a disc they where selling (music).
Yeah vibes, good vibes happy plant. :joint:

georgi345 · Jul 27, 2009

truth.
it's all (well, not really all) about environment.
if i had a nickel for every time i've been reduced to picking up a bag of schwag, only to be greeted, upon smoking, by the filthy taste of chemically treated tobacco and carcinogized nicotine because some bonehead was smoking butts around his/her grow...
"science", mahn, i'm tell'n ya, it's the way to go.
(but then i'm a gonzo pastafarian, so i'm biased...)

:bigjoint:

-g

ps f--k nixon!
:mrgreen:

GoldenGanja13 · Jul 27, 2009

georgi345 said:
truth.
it's all (well, not really all) about environment.
if i had a nickel for every time i've been reduced to picking up a bag of schwag, only to be greeted, upon smoking, by the filthy taste of chemically treated tobacco and carcinogized nicotine because some bonehead was smoking butts around his/her grow...
"science", mahn, i'm tell'n ya, it's the way to go.
(but then i'm a gonzo pastafarian, so i'm biased...)

-g

ps f--k nixon!

Your a RIOT :lol:

georgi345 · Jul 28, 2009

GoldenGanja13 said:
Your a RIOT

nah, just "chatty when baked", which has been quite a bit these days...

popcorn_buds + vaporizer + impatient_fiend = a_whole_lot_of_ bongsmilie

.

'gotta take observational samples afterall (every few hours) to make sure that things are progressing the way they should...

the one plant i've been taking the "samples" from (not shown in any of the pics above) will be lucky if it makes it to harvest!
:bigjoint:

cheers
-g
:joint:

vertise · Jul 28, 2009

didnt read the entire thread but your flushing and letting them go for another 2-3 weeks right. cause it needs more time, but looks great.

georgi345 · Jul 28, 2009

vertise said:
didnt read the entire thread but your flushing and letting them go for another 2-3 weeks right. cause it needs more time, but looks great.

yup. 'waiting for the majority of the pistillates to retract into the bud mass, then it's lights out time for 24 (except the uvb), and then chop-chop-chop...
i'm guessing another 1.5 weeks or so...

vertise · Jul 28, 2009

you should get a microscope like one of the hand held ones to look at the trichomes.

georgi345 · Jul 28, 2009

vertise said:
you should get a microscope like one of the hand held ones to look at the trichomes.

yeah, i've got one, but have been using it more as a novelty than anything else...

as i understand it (and anyone/everyone please correct me if i've got my head on wrong), the idea of checking trichs under magnification for cloudy vs amber is to form a crude judgment about thc:cbd:cbn content so one, allegedly, can get some control on head-high vs couchlock, thus determining harvest time based on the proportion one is looking for...

'trouble is the ratio of cannabinoids is predominantly determined by phenotype, and so one's attempting to account for an essentially negligible difference when harvesting based on trichome coloration. the idea then is to harvest when it's done, meaning the plant has come to the end of its life cycle, and the biggest tell-tale there are the macroscopic pistillates: when they're red and retracted, you've arrived and have whatever the strain you've chosen has generously provided you under your loving and attentive care...

or ??
:joint:

cheers
-g
:peace:

vertise · Jul 28, 2009

pretty well put together question. i would say that the type of plant is one thing but just cause its done according to the plants life cycle does not mean its at its tip top shape. its like growing a veg. would you grow a tomato plant till the tomato falls off or would you pluck it when you think its ripe. and how do you tell when its ripe via the color. just like the trichomes, you want to cut the plant down when the trichomes are ripe. usually 50 percent amber or etc. and from my exp if you grow a sativa its a head high even into amber phase and indica is couch lock even into its amber phase. the type of plant has more of a affect then the trichome with the type of high. the only thing that will create a quick head high is when you under grow each type and then its just a very uncomfortable high.

georgi345 · Jul 28, 2009

vertise said:
how do you tell when its ripe

constant sampling?
:bigjoint:

i do hear you though, silliness (somewhat) aside, about finding that "sweet spot" to chop based around coloration... experientially then, how much of a difference do you find (all other factors with a given strain being equal) between, say, 30% amber trichs vs 50% amber trichs vs 80% amber trichs?

cheers
-g
:joint:

vertise · Jul 28, 2009

30 percent amber is different then milky 50 percent is the best. however different strains will also add to it. i like indicas over sativas but i have grown both. i would say under done 30 percent amber still gives the uncomfortable high, 50 percent gives the perfect high and 80 percent gives the same high as 50 percent. maybe a bit more body high but 30 percent is drastically different then 80 percent when compared to 50 percent

Percolator · Jul 28, 2009

vertise said:
30 percent amber is different then milky 50 percent is the best. however different strains will also add to it. i like indicas over sativas but i have grown both. i would say under done 30 percent amber still gives the uncomfortable high, 50 percent gives the perfect high and 80 percent gives the same high as 50 percent. maybe a bit more body high but 30 percent is drastically different then 80 percent when compared to 50 percent

Do you guys go by the color of the trichomes to know when to start your flush? I have a girl that is near her flush time. The big fan leaves are turning yellow and everything looks like it is filling in. I am running an ebb and flow and just dont know exactly when to flush and how long. Any help much appreciated.

georgi345 · Jul 28, 2009

Percolator said:
Do you guys go by the color of the trichomes to know when to start your flush? I have a girl that is near her flush time. The big fan leaves are turning yellow and everything looks like it is filling in. I am running an ebb and flow and just dont know exactly when to flush and how long. Any help much appreciated.

the info i've read says go by c33% red pistillates and dropping fan leaves. vertical cola growth should also have slowed (or stopped) and the bud should have been/be building mass (blackstrap all the way!). then, in a sink, i flush with distilled water to twice the volume of the pot (i'm in 1gals in the grow shown op, so i flush with 2gals water/pot), then let 'em sit until dry... if not ready to harvest, then flush again. lights out (except uvb) at 24 hours prior (the world's coming to an end; 'must be the final eschaton snuffing out of the sun in 2012 :eyesmoke:

) to being led to the sacrificial altar.
:twisted:

cheers
-g
:bigjoint:

vertise · Jul 28, 2009

to me from growing, a plant may seem like its done growing according to the pistils but pistils discolor for many reasons. type of light, the amount of lumens etc. i go by the trichs cause they to me seem more accurate. I have crops go entirely brown via the pistils but the trichs are still clear like 100 percent clear. its mostly about reading the plant. When the trichs in my experience are clear they are not ready when you see via a scope that they are brown or purple then the plant is done. most of my plant trichomes turn purple not brown

vertise · Jul 28, 2009

when the trichs are milky i flush. like 30 percent milky. that gives me 2 or 3 weeks of flushing to enable them to turn 50 percent amber/purple.

georgi345 · Jul 28, 2009

cornbread time!

-g

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