preferred cloning methods, a poll

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Bob Smith

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Just to keep up with this thread, I'm now running an experiment to see which I can root faster - E&F clones or in a humidity dome with rapid rooters.

The E&F are in my top tray under a 400HPS with the reservoir at 350PPMs, 5.4pH, and 75F - FYI, they're in 3.5" square plastic pots.

The ones in the humidity dome are under 8 4' T8 fixtures.

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I'll keep you guys updated on the results.
 
vapedg13

vapedg13

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Add a heating pad and a temp regulator to your dome set it at 85*F

You dont want/need alot of watts for your clones...your only need like 20-40 watts to promote root growth....higher wattage promotes new leaf grow and not root
 
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Bob Smith

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vapedg13 said:
Add a heating pad and a temp regulator to your dome set it at 85*F

You dont want/need alot of watts for your clones...your only need like 20-40 watts to promote root growth....higher wattage promotes new leaf grow and not root
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Have a heating pad but didn't bother to use it - they'll root fine without it, and without a temp regulator, I've had issues with overheating in the past.

It's 75 in the tent, so probably about 80 in the humidity dome - they're fine.
 
collieBudz

collieBudz

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I have a cloning question.. but ill throw in my 2 cents on techniques, id say it doest matter too much as long as youve got the basics going properly, but bubble cloner is most successful...


ok so now for the question, i had 2 mature plants ready to go into flower, but only 1 room, and i wanted to try an experiment, so i also grew out 2 seeds under 12\12 while flowering the big one's..to see how it would go... it appears, the plants are just going to grow, until the reach whatever level of maturity and start to flower.. (they have already showed sex though, since over 3 weeks ago, just nothing forming, just vegetative growth).. and im about 6.5 weeks into flowering now, i want to know what you think the odds of me pulling successful clones of them now, and restarting a new grow with clones from the plants i started from seed at 12\12... or will they not root properly??
 
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vapedg13

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collieBudz said:
I have a cloning question.. but ill throw in my 2 cents on techniques, id say it doest matter too much as long as youve got the basics going properly, but bubble cloner is most successful...


ok so now for the question, i had 2 mature plants ready to go into flower, but only 1 room, and i wanted to try an experiment, so i also grew out 2 seeds under 12\12 while flowering the big one's..to see how it would go... it appears, the plants are just going to grow, until the reach whatever level of maturity and start to flower.. (they have already showed sex though, since over 3 weeks ago, just nothing forming, just vegetative growth).. and im about 6.5 weeks into flowering now, i want to know what you think the odds of me pulling successful clones of them now, and restarting a new grow with clones from the plants i started from seed at 12\12... or will they not root properly??
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You can pull clones in flower ....they take longer to root.....then you have to reveg the bud (new limbs will grow out of the bud) total process takes 4-6 weeks
 
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FunInTheSunshine

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Hi, I have not posted much here, but have learnt a LOT from reading what rollituppers have to say. This site rocks and thanx to all
I have a question about clones.
How many times can I take a clone from a clone before the quality of the plant and product suffer? I know all the genetic code is in the clone, but can it be done indeff ? I seem to think I heard diffrently somewhere, but am not sure. Any help?
 
vapedg13

vapedg13

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FunInTheSunshine said:
Hi, I have not posted much here, but have learnt a LOT from reading what rollituppers have to say. This site rocks and thanx to all
I have a question about clones.
How many times can I take a clone from a clone before the quality of the plant and product suffer? I know all the genetic code is in the clone, but can it be done indeff ? I seem to think I heard diffrently somewhere, but am not sure. Any help?
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Well bro i have had the same strain for almost 20 years now...I pull starts right before I go into flower 6 times a year..I have never kept a mom and the strain is still kick ass

ive pulled a clone of a clone of a clone 120 times


 
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FunInTheSunshine

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vapedg13 said:
Well bro i have had the same strain for almost 20 years now...I pull starts right before I go into flower 6 times a year..I have never kept a mom and the strain is still kick ass

ive pulled a clone of a clone of a clone 120 times


:-) Damn, that is exactly what I want to hear!! What I was thinking is if one had a setup where you could take cuttings, leave a week for plant recovery and then flower. The cuttings take 2 weeks or so, plant them out and then take cuttings of them after a week, flower them a week later. and then do the same with the last cuttings.

This way you would have a grow approx every 3 weeks.
Flood and drain system using 2400 (6x400W) Metal halides. 150L sump.
It will be SOG approx 120 plants in 1.25Mx3.1M
The idea is to have 3 mirror setups going and take cuttings off each lot just before flower

I should move this post. I will copy it and create a new tread in 'grow room design and setup' with the Heading, '3 x Parralell grow, plausable?'

Thanks for the info!
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Steadmanclan

Steadmanclan

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FunInTheSunshine said:
Hi, I have not posted much here, but have learnt a LOT from reading what rollituppers have to say. This site rocks and thanx to all
I have a question about clones.
How many times can I take a clone from a clone before the quality of the plant and product suffer? I know all the genetic code is in the clone, but can it be done indeff ? I seem to think I heard diffrently somewhere, but am not sure. Any help?
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there are lots of "elite" clones that have been clone only strains for the last 20 years. quality of the purple kush i grew a while back was top notch. that has been clone only since the 80's
 
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TechnoPagan

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I have to agree with Clouds. Air Layering has some very important advantages if you're growing legally for medicinal use. In California, in the county I'm in, I'm limited to 12 plants, no more than 6 mature. An Air Layer clone isn't considered a separate plant until you cut it from the mother plant.

And I do that after I harvest so I never have more than 12.
 
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2000tranzam

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Bob Smith said:
Just to keep up with this thread, I'm now running an experiment to see which I can root faster - E&F clones or in a humidity dome with rapid rooters.

The E&F are in my top tray under a 400HPS with the reservoir at 350PPMs, 5.4pH, and 75F - FYI, they're in 3.5" square plastic pots.

The ones in the humidity dome are under 8 4' T8 fixtures.

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I'll keep you guys updated on the results.
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you dont have any nutes in there do you? Just the air pump running to a 3 dollar airstone? and the bucket just keeps the airstone pumping 24/7? and you shave the bottom of the stems? do you use any rooting gel or just strait water? Just wanna get the process down cause the humidity domes arent 100% success rate for me.
 
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Bob Smith

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2000tranzam said:
you dont have any nutes in there do you? Just the air pump running to a 3 dollar airstone? and the bucket just keeps the airstone pumping 24/7? and you shave the bottom of the stems? do you use any rooting gel or just strait water? Just wanna get the process down cause the humidity domes arent 100% success rate for me.
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Are you talking about my bubble cloner?
 
clasonde

clasonde

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my favorite cloning method and the one ive had best success with is just a plain old party cup filled with water, covered with saran wrap and the clone place in the center. roots usually within 3-7 days.
 
diet103

diet103

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Somebody should really post pics of it because I cannot find ANY info whatsoever on root cloning. Or did it even work you guys???????????
 
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