Possible to salvage these seed sprouts?

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RenaissanceBrah

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So I decided to experiment and try to sprout in a medium rich with my homemade earth worm castings.

Bad idea... looks like these seed sprouts got nutrient burned bad. They popped after 18h water soak and I planted them directly into my medium (peat/pumice/compost/worm castings). Planted 5 days ago.

The first one's (first photo) looked promising, but they're stuck like that, not fully sprouting... the other one's (2nd and 3rd photo) look like they ran out of steam... or perhaps some type of bug in the worm castings attacked the seedling?

Could I possibly still save them by carefully transplanting to a basic peat/pumice/compost mix that I've used successfully before?

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Beehive

Beehive

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Those seedlings need to be around 80°f for fast growth. Below 72°, and you risk cold stunting them.

Other then that. The dirt is too moist.

Some people like them, others hate them. Peat pellets. The disc you water and they swell. I've used them with coco. Sprouted seed is stuck in the peat pellet. Kept warm, 80°-83°f.

Once the sprouts break the top. Stick it in moist soil. Moist as in, the dirt feels moist but its not sticky. Doesn't clump.
 
green_machine_two9er

green_machine_two9er

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Ewc/pest perlite should be great to sprout seeds in. Two things

I think your ratio is way off for airstion. You can get away with 40%perlite. Maybe 20 ewc and 40 peat.
I agree soil looks way to wet and saturated.

also smaller amounts of soil to start in. Maybe cut that cup down by3/4. Easier to keep small amount right moisture. Your not watering at this point just misting.

to save these... stranger things have Happened.... but i would start over. I mean you could dig up the poor thing and try to replant somehow. But idk. The one that came uphas a better chance

easier way to pop seeds
Root root or similar “plugs”. Come pre moistened so you don’t have to sweat water levels.

tray-dome-light as close as possible. Temps 75-80ish. Just plop the seed in the hole. Let nature take over. Then transplant your cube to your soil cuponce root base is visible. There some pics. But you can get seedlings full growing and rooted within 7 days.
 

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RenaissanceBrah

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Beehive said:
Those seedlings need to be around 80°f for fast growth. Below 72°, and you risk cold stunting them.

Other then that. The dirt is too moist.

Some people like them, others hate them. Peat pellets. The disc you water and they swell. I've used them with coco. Sprouted seed is stuck in the peat pellet. Kept warm, 80°-83°f.

Once the sprouts break the top. Stick it in moist soil. Moist as in, the dirt feels moist but its not sticky. Doesn't clump.
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Thanks - I have the cups sitting on top of a heating pad - do you think that's enough? The room is about 75, more or less. Should I also put a cup over them?

I think I'm gonna try to transplant the seedlings... they look like they're going to die b/c of the worm castings.

Btw I did mist down the dirt right before I took the pictures, it was looking a bit dry
 
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RenaissanceBrah

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green_machine_two9er said:
Ewc/pest perlite should be great to sprout seeds in. Two things

I think your ratio is way off for airstion. You can get away with 40%perlite. Maybe 20 ewc and 40 peat.
I agree soil looks way to wet and saturated.

also smaller amounts of soil to start in. Maybe cut that cup down by3/4. Easier to keep small amount right moisture. Your not watering at this point just misting.

to save these... stranger things have Happened.... but i would start over. I mean you could dig up the poor thing and try to replant somehow. But idk. The one that came uphas a better chance

easier way to pop seeds
Root root or similar “plugs”. Come pre moistened so you don’t have to sweat water levels.

tray-dome-light as close as possible. Temps 75-80ish. Just plop the seed in the hole. Let nature take over. Then transplant your cube to your soil cuponce root base is visible. There some pics. But you can get seedlings full growing and rooted within 7 days.
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Regarding ratio, you mean I had too much perlite? Or too little?

There might have been some red wigglers in there that were in the worm castings... could they have started munching on the seedling?

Those were my only Congo and Thai Chi seeds, from Ace Seeds :(... the Nepal Annapurna ones never sprouted either way.

I'll try to re-plant the saddest looking seedlings (Congo regular) into my regular 1/1/1 peat/pumice/compost mix.

Should I let the Thai Chi (the healthier 2) looking ones be? Or also try to transplant them too? They've looked exactly the same like that for about 3 days now.
 
Beehive

Beehive

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Here's something to blow your mind.

Stop transplanting. I stick a small peat pot in 5 gals of coco, fabric pot. Sprouted seed goes into the buried peat pot.

No drama, no root problems, no extra steps, no beer cups. Root ball is everything you'd want.

Main grow light from the moment they break the top of soil till harvest.
 
green_machine_two9er

green_machine_two9er

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RenaissanceBrah said:
Regarding ratio, you mean I had too much perlite? Or too little?

There might have been some red wigglers in there that were in the worm castings... could they have started munching on the seedling?

Those were my only Congo and Thai Chi seeds, from Ace Seeds :(... the Nepal Annapurna ones never sprouted either way.

I'll try to re-plant the saddest looking seedlings (Congo regular) into my regular 1/1/1 peat/pumice/compost mix.

Should I let the Thai Chi (the healthier 2) looking ones be? Or also try to transplant them too? They've looked exactly the same like that for about 3 days now.
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I’d like to see more perlite yes.
 
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RenaissanceBrah

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Beehive said:
Here's something to blow your mind.

Stop transplanting. I stick a small peat pot in 5 gals of coco, fabric pot. Sprouted seed goes into the buried peat pot.

No drama, no root problems, no extra steps, no beer cups. Root ball is everything you'd want.

Main grow light from the moment they break the top of soil till harvest.
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I don't have anymore of these seeds, was hoping to try to salvage these. Think it's possible, and if so, any recommendations?

In the future I'll definitely be running peat pots.
 
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Frank Warthog

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Keep them warm, cover the pots with cling film until they are upright and the seed casing have pretty much come off as you need high humidity and warmth. Don't give them any more water for now, don't transplant them or you'll likely finish them off. Good luck!
 
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