Pollen Extractor

GroErr · Sep 30, 2016

hydra-glide said:
I was apprehensive about running the 380 grms. through again, figuring that I'd be collecting that straw-taste. [Nasty's what you get with the 220 screen TrimBin.] I've got some pics from today's effortless collection. 2.2 g total. And it taste keif good. No less.
1. The drive wheel. 2. fill the container half-full. 3. Turn the dial slowly until the canister is bumping twice before it moves clock-wise. Every time the canister bumps, it knocks pollen off. Sweet! 4. The pile after 20-minutes left alone to do it's thing. 5. Turn the canister clock-wise and sweep the pollen-off. 6. Included is a thin celluloid scraping card. I use this with a small funnel that sits in top of the T-handled press. Nifty, flat, nylon painters brush is from TrimBin® ($5.) 7. (1.2 gs.) of pressed good-kief. Not harsh. Not even a hint of "straw-taste".

Nice, looks and sounds good! Funny I had forgotten to mention turning that variable dial until you got it "bumping" on the turns, works really well I found the same thing playing around with it. Not a bad unit at all for the price range, specially when you can just re-fill and walk away for however long you want. Will be interesting to see how long the motor goes and I'd like to copy the design but with a larger canister and motor longer term. They should make some bigger units... outdoor stash coming up and I'll have about 1 1/2 lbs. to run!

hydra-glide · Sep 30, 2016

GroErr said:
They should make some bigger units... outdoor stash coming up and I'll have about 1 1/2 lbs. to run!

Actually that's their current project. There was a back and forth whether the larger unit should be released with a 180 or 150-mesh. I believe they will opt for the 150-mesh. What do you think GroErr? 180 or 150? I guess I should start referring to the mesh as 150-u. No one ever told me what the "u" stood for, but I'll go along with it quietly.

GroErr · Sep 30, 2016

hydra-glide said:
Actually that's their current project. There was a back and forth whether the larger unit should be released with a 180 or 150-mesh. I believe they will opt for the 150-mesh. What do you think GroErr? 180 or 150? I guess I should start referring to the mesh as 150-u. No one ever told me what the "u" stood for, but I'll go along with it quietly.

Oh cool, didn't know they were working on one. I'd go with the 150 personally but I use 99% of it for caps/edibles, tried to get a 125 they offered but they shipped 150. RE: "u" that's just a US specific measurement, 100u = 150 microns there's a chart somewhere that compares/coverts the different measurements. The higher the number, the finer the mesh. When running it manually I use 100 micron which generates more yield and is clean enough for edibles/caps. The 150 micron/100u will generate cleaner sift so it depends on what you want, interchangeable drums would be nice, that way you can run finer or coarser depending on what you want the kief for.

hydra-glide · Sep 30, 2016

GroErr said:
The higher the number, the finer the mesh

That's where I got into trouble with the TrimBin, they offered a 220-mesh (higher number) and 220's grid had holes big enough to drive a Volkswagen through.

GroErr said:
interchangeable drums would be nice, that way you can run finer or coarser depending on what you want the kief for.

I wound up with a 180 and 150 drums and you're right, it's easy to interchange them. I like the fact that the pollen is captured in the bin, which eliminates most of the "kief snowstorm" billowing-up from the pile.
Perhaps, 180 will be a good mesh-size for first-run buds with large trich;s, but there's a lot of green-leaf that can fall through the large grid pattern as well. So any leaf included, taste not so good.

GroErr · Sep 30, 2016

hydra-glide said:
That's where I got into trouble with the TrimBin, they offered a 220-mesh (higher number) and 220's grid had holes big enough to drive a Volkswagen through.

I wound up with a 180 and 150 drums and you're right, it's easy to interchange them. I like the fact that the pollen is captured in the bin, which eliminates most of the "kief snowstorm" billowing-up from the pile.
Perhaps, 180 will be a good mesh-size for first-run buds with large trich;s, but there's a lot of green-leaf that can fall through the large grid pattern as well. So any leaf included, taste not so good.

Yeah they shipped me 2x 150 drums when I ordered 1x 125 and 1x 150, not worth shipping them back and I don't mind the 150 it's just not necessary for when I'm making caps which is most of what I use the kief for.

hydra-glide · Sep 30, 2016

GroErr said:
I ordered 1x 125

Send me the 125-mesh and I'll send you a 180, then if you get sick of the 180, I'll exchange them again later. I just want something 120-ish to try out with the popcorn-duff before it hits the bubble machine.

GroErr · Sep 30, 2016

hydra-glide said:
Send me the 125-mesh and I'll send you a 180, then if you get sick of the 180, I'll exchange them again later.

Lol yeah that's the thing they sent me 2xs 150's, if I had the 125's it would be good but shipping these around wouldn't be worthwhile, cost of shipping with proper packaging is ridiculous on my side of the border (Canada) and I've had even well packaged seeds get crushed through our f'n mail system @#$! It can be cheaper but stuff gets destroyed.

Checked their site and didn't see any mention of a bigger tumbler, did see they now sell both the 150 and 180 mesh, when I bought they were 125 and 150. Tried to buy a 180 and they have no stock, no eta, cheesy web site but the product is decent for the price.

hydra-glide · Sep 30, 2016

GroErr said:
Tried to buy a 180 and they have no stock, no eta, cheesy web site but the product is decent for the price.

True, but their FB page is more involved. You'll read me banging the drum.
https://www.facebook.com/PollenExtractor/?fref=ts
These folks go out of their way with customer service and their product is affordable - and it's easier to load that canister half-full and leave it running for 15-20 min. than it is to load up the TrimBin and sit there sifting. Both have their place. The little Extractor surprised me with the amount it produced. It's an item.
TrimBin's nylon brush is a necessity. Hard to find elsewhere, you try, I did, and it's worthy of $5.
https://www.harvest-more.com/shop/brush/
Imo, the TrimBin and PollenExtractor are two completely different items that can be used separately in harvesting.

GroErr · Sep 30, 2016

hydra-glide said:
True, but their FB page is more involved. You'll read me banging the drum.
https://www.facebook.com/PollenExtractor/?fref=ts
These folks go out of their way with customer service and their product is affordable - and it's easier to load that canister half-full and leave it running for 15-20 min. than it is to load up the TrimBin and sit there sifting. Both have their place. The little Extractor surprised me with the amount it produced. It's an item.
TrimBin's nylon brush is a necessity. Hard to find elsewhere, you try, I did, and it's worthy of $5.
https://www.harvest-more.com/shop/brush/
Imo, the TrimBin and PollenExtractor are two completely different items that can be used separately in harvesting.

Yeah for sure that brush looks handy for $5. That TrimBin looks like it might be worth a try, can you cut/fit your own screens with it? Can't really see much in their pics. Problem I have with the sifting is my back goes out if I spend any time doing it, why I tried out that extractor.

hydra-glide · Sep 30, 2016

GroErr said:
That TrimBin looks like it might be worth a try, can you cut/fit your own screens with it?

No, the screens are tig-welded and poly-shrunk on it's 1/2" metal perimeter. The screen's held up under the bottom of the bin with (10 or 12) screws. It comes with the 150-mesh and that makes hash.

GroErr said:
Problem I have with the sifting is my back goes out if I spend any time doing it, why I tried out that extractor.

Good point I forgot to mention. It will save your back if you have a solid desk to press against, because the bin naturally wants to slip out of your lap. In the pic, the leading edge of the bin is pressing against that white table, but with the tray in my lap it's pushing against the wood desk, and the table is keeping the desk from moving. It makes a big difference. And filing off those sharp bulkheads that will dig into you when you're pressing against the rim against the table. You can do a better grind-job than I did. Try at least.

GroErr · Oct 1, 2016

hydra-glide said:
No, the screens are tig-welded and poly-shrunk on it's 1/2" metal perimeter. The screen's held up under the bottom of the bin with (10 or 12) screws. It comes with the 150-mesh and that makes hash.

Good point I forgot to mention. It will save your back if you have a solid desk to press against, because the bin naturally wants to slip out of your lap. In the pic, the leading edge of the bin is pressing against that white table, but with the tray in my lap it's pushing against the wood desk, and the table is keeping the desk from moving. It makes a big difference. And filing off those sharp bulkheads that will dig into you when you're pressing against the rim against the table. You can do a better grind-job than I did. Try at least.

Yeah that might be worth a try, looks like your desk is lower too, getting the right height to reduce bending over it is the trick to saving my back, may consider building a frame at the right height to reduce bending over it. That tray is not expensive I may grab one to try, anything to save my back!

hydra-glide · Oct 1, 2016

GroErr said:
looks like your desk is lower too

Also helpful is a chair that goes up and down. That desk 30" high.

GroErr · Oct 1, 2016

hydra-glide said:
Also helpful is a chair that goes up and down. That desk 30" high.

Good point on that. I'm picturing a potential trim/sift station with adjustable height legs and one of those trim bins sitting on it. Might try building one from scrap to test out, then build a more permanent version.

hydra-glide · Oct 1, 2016

GroErr said:
one of those trim bins sitting on it

If you meant on the table, then remember that the arm depressions allow you to relax your shoulders. If the bin in on a table you'd have to reach for it.

GroErr · Oct 1, 2016

hydra-glide said:
If you meant on the table, then remember that the arm depressions allow you to relax your shoulders. If the bin in on a table you'd have to reach for it.

Yeah I'm thinking more of a frame to sit it on so I'm sitting upright and can slide into the tray at the right height. I find even sitting down trimming I'm not at the right height and bend my neck instead - sore neck or sore back not good lol I'm 6'4 so normal table/chair heights suck for me. Will likely grab one and try and few things, in the meantime I have that extractor which is working fairly well, got 8% total after 2 passes this last round which is getting closer to the manual method. Yield depends on trim of course but this one strain I've been trying it gets somewhere between 10-12% when I run it manually through the screen so it's getting closer.

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