Poking 650,000 holes into the Iraqi death toll estimate

silvernomad

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silver, your blind hatred is showing you up, have you actually been to israel?
Blind anger is not what I am doing, I know what I am directing my posts at and I know what I am speaking about, and I have been, as my family are from there and live there..... just because you are saying and believing what you do; does not mean that I have to lay on my hands and swallow what the Islamic whiners rant on about how evil israel is; when Israel has only put up over and over again the bull shit from groups like hamas and such have been telling people for years.

Do I think for every person in israel no, just like you do not speak for every person in Israel........ yes I can find those who would hug and kiss and believe the lies of the islamic terror groups in Israel; but also, if you had been there, you can also find MANY that think and believe the same way I do, even more now........so just like you don't speak for all of Israel, I also don't speak for all of israel.
 

silvernomad

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Nomad, Nomad, Nomad... Hitler was a purist. Hitler didn't cut anybody open, he allowed his scientists to do it. Which in turn helped US along the way in mapping the human genome. Without Hitler's work we would still be mapping now. There's a lot of myth surrounding what Hitler did, and from your post I can tell that you know fuck-all about Hitler. Very emotional, but as for actually knowing anything... nada. Hitler didn't HATE the Jews, he believed, as everybody else did back then, that the Jews needed to be wiped out. It is the fault of the bible and religion... Religion has sent many a man mad, there's nothing more insane than believing a fairy-tale is real. All true Christians should hate the Jews as they are responsible for Jesus' death.

You are a fucking retard......

You believe Hitler did not hate jews.........LOL fucking moron...not everyone believed the jews were to wiped out.....(did you even go to school?).....maybe in your fucking head you hear that story, but take the dope out of your ass, it is leaking and it's making you retarded.......

I have nothing else to say to such a moron as yourself, you are just a waste of time........



PLUNK
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Also:

The planning of the Second World War started when Adolf Hitler joined a secret society called the Thule Society in 1919. It was in this group that he found the perverted beliefs that were later to lead him in his control of the German government.
In the Thule Society: "... the sun played a prime role... as a sacred symbol of the Aryans, in contrast to... the moon, revered by the Semitic peoples. The Fuhrer saw in the Jewish people, with their black hair and swarthy complexions, the dark side of the human species, whilst the blond and blue-eyed Aryans constituted the light side of humanity. ... Hitler undertook to extirpate from the material world its impure elements."

In addition to sun (or light) worship, the Thule Society also practiced Satan worship: "The inner core within the Thule Society were all Satanists who practiced Black Magic."

The Society was not a working-man's group as it included amongst its members: "judges, police-chiefs, barristers, lawyers, university professors and lecturers, aristocratic families, leading industrialists, surgeons, physicians, scientists, as well as a host of rich and influential bourgeois....

The membership of the Thule Society also became the foundation of the Nazi Party: "... the Committee and the forty original members of the New German Workers' Party were all drawn from the most powerful occult society in Germany—the Thule Society

One of the founders of both groups, the Nazi Party and the Thule Society, was Dietrich Eckart: "a dedicated Satanist, the supreme adept of the arts and rituals of Black Magic and the central figure in a powerful and wide-spread circle of occultists—the Thule Group. (He was] one of the seven founder members of the Nazi Party...."

Eckart claimed to be the initiator of Hitler into the secrets of Satan worship. He is quoted as saying on his deathbed: "Follow Hitler. He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune! I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine;' opened his centres in vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any German."

But it was not just the Thule Society that gave Hitler the support he needed to become the leader of the German government. There were additional sources of Hitler's strength. One who offered an explanation of Hitler's easy rise to power was Walter Langer, a noted psychoanalyst. Langer wrote in his book The Mind of Adolf Hitler that it was his theory that Hitler was himself one-quarter Jewish and the grandson of a Rothschild. He wrote:

There is a great deal of confusion in studying Hitler's family tree. Adolf's father, Alois Hitler, was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber. It was generally supposed that the father of Alois Hitler was Johann Georg Hiedler.... Alois, however, was not legitimized, and he bore his mother's name until he was forty years of age when he changed it to Hitler.

A peculiar series of events, prior to Hitler's birth, furnishes plenty of food for speculation.

There are some people who seriously doubt that Johann Georg Hiedler was the father of Alois. Thyssen and Koehler, for example, claim that Chancellor Dolfuss (the Chancellor of Austria) had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a secret document was prepared that proved Maria Anna Shicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived.
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
At that time she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back to her home in Spital where Alois was bom.5
In a postscript in Langer's book, Robert G.L. Waite adds this comment:
"But even when Langer is mistaken and his guesses prove incorrect, he is often on the right track.
Consider his hint that Hitler's grandfather might have been a Jew. There is no reason to believe the unlikely story told by Langer's informant that Hitler's grandmother Maria Anna Schickelgruber, a peasant woman in her forties from the Waldvietral of rural Austria, had had an intimate liason with a Baron Rothschild in Vienna.
But Hitler had worried that he might be blackmailed over a Jewish grandfather and ordered his private lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate his paternal lineage.
Frank did so and told the Fuehrer that his grandmother had become pregnant while working as a domestic servant in a Jewish household in Graz.
The facts of this matter are in dispute—and a very lengthy dispute it has been. The point of overriding psychological and historical importance is not whether it is true that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, but whether he believed that it might be true.
He did so believe and the fact shaped both his personality and his public policy.6
It is possible that Hitler discovered his Jewish background and his relation to the Rothschilds, and aware of their enormous power to make or break European governments, re-established contact with the family. This would partially explain the enormous support he received from the international banking fraternity, closely entwined with the Rothschild family, as he rose to power.
One thing is certain, however. Hitler started World War II by moving into Austria first. It has been theorized that he moved into this country for two reasons. First, he wanted to silence Dolfuss who Hitler believed knew that he was a descendant of the Rothschilds, and secondly, he wished to remove all traces of his ancestry from the Austrian records.
 

big buddy

Active Member
so silver, basically what you're saying is that if someone(me) believes that both sides in the israel/palestine conflict have been at fault then they subscribe to palestinian propaganda? thats ridiculous!!!! as you've stated before, you want all out war, yet you wont be fighting, how very brave.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Nomad... most of the world was anti-semitic in that period of history. England and the U.S. included. Why? Because they fucking killed Jesus... Anybody that believes the Bible is factual must also believe that the Jews need to be wiped out... that includes a dickhead like yourself...

Also Nomad it is you that is the retard, if I were in a room with you and you were to open your disgusting mouth I'd have no hesitation in biting your fucking nose off.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Let me take the Saxons as an example... The Saxons have never been termed as racists, Purists yes... Saxons would not rape and pillage, they would slaughter and pillage... Saxons killed off entire bloodlines, right down to the babies... the same thing happened to the Indian tribes... thrown onto reservations while the soon-to-be-American people waited for them to die...

If you are going to use the word racist so loosely then you must apply the same law to everything else in the relative history of mankind.
 

EIP

Active Member
...didn't the romans kill jesus?..fucking anti-christian italians...

...trust me when i say that any critisizm of isreal earns you a knee jerk reaction based in emotion...history is conveniently edited no matter what your side...

...personally, i'm putting down my ten foot pole and stepping back...
EIP
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Not only did the Jews betray Jesus and deny him, they also released a murderer named Barabus rather than Jesus.

So if Jesus was so loved... and did things like heal the sick in places FULL of witnesses... why did the Jews pick Barabus?
 

ViRedd

New Member
Not only did the Jews betray Jesus and deny him, they also released a murderer named Barabus rather than Jesus.

So if Jesus was so loved... and did things like heal the sick in places FULL of witnesses... why did the Jews pick Barabus?
Why do people continue to do it today?

Vi
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Come now, that's hardly a relevant argument... That's like asking; who would we release Osamah Bin-Laden or Christian Slater?

Barabus (forgive me if I've mis-spelled the name) was a murderer, an out and out scumbag... why, given the choice, would anybody choose Barabus over Jesus?
 

ViRedd

New Member
why, given the choice, would anybody choose Barabus over Jesus?

People make choices all the time ... we are what we choose. Look at Barabus as "The World" and your perspective will change. In other words, why would someone choose the false promises of the world over spiritual enlightenment?

The Scriptures are written in parables ... and the above is one of them. :)

Vi
 

medicinaluseonly

Well-Known Member
Also:

The planning of the Second World War started when Adolf Hitler joined a secret society called the Thule Society in 1919. It was in this group that he found the perverted beliefs that were later to lead him in his control of the German government.
In the Thule Society: "... the sun played a prime role... as a sacred symbol of the Aryans, in contrast to... the moon, revered by the Semitic peoples. The Fuhrer saw in the Jewish people, with their black hair and swarthy complexions, the dark side of the human species, whilst the blond and blue-eyed Aryans constituted the light side of humanity. ... Hitler undertook to extirpate from the material world its impure elements."

In addition to sun (or light) worship, the Thule Society also practiced Satan worship: "The inner core within the Thule Society were all Satanists who practiced Black Magic."

The Society was not a working-man's group as it included amongst its members: "judges, police-chiefs, barristers, lawyers, university professors and lecturers, aristocratic families, leading industrialists, surgeons, physicians, scientists, (Real estate salesmen) as well as a host of rich and influential bourgeois....

The membership of the Thule Society also became the foundation of the Nazi Party: "... the Committee and the forty original members of the New German Workers' Party were all drawn from the most powerful occult society in Germany—the Thule Society

One of the founders of both groups, the Nazi Party and the Thule Society, was Dietrich Eckart: "a dedicated Satanist, the supreme adept of the arts and rituals of Black Magic and the central figure in a powerful and wide-spread circle of occultists—the Thule Group. (He was] one of the seven founder members of the Nazi Party...."

Eckart claimed to be the initiator of Hitler into the secrets of Satan worship. He is quoted as saying on his deathbed: "Follow Hitler. He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune! I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine;' opened his centres in vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any German."

But it was not just the Thule Society that gave Hitler the support he needed to become the leader of the German government. There were additional sources of Hitler's strength. One who offered an explanation of Hitler's easy rise to power was Walter Langer, a noted psychoanalyst. Langer wrote in his book The Mind of Adolf Hitler that it was his theory that Hitler was himself one-quarter Jewish and the grandson of a Rothschild. He wrote:

There is a great deal of confusion in studying Hitler's family tree. Adolf's father, Alois Hitler, was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber. It was generally supposed that the father of Alois Hitler was Johann Georg Hiedler.... Alois, however, was not legitimized, and he bore his mother's name until he was forty years of age when he changed it to Hitler.

A peculiar series of events, prior to Hitler's birth, furnishes plenty of food for speculation.

There are some people who seriously doubt that Johann Georg Hiedler was the father of Alois. Thyssen and Koehler, for example, claim that Chancellor Dolfuss (the Chancellor of Austria) had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a secret document was prepared that proved Maria Anna Shicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived.
viva la revolution
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Skunky, the Jews only pointed out that Jesus broke Jewish law (Performing miricles on the sabbath) and also that he broke Roman law (by saying that he was the some of God, which put him above Ceaser). If you want to hate anyone it should be the Italians, they were the ones who carried out the sentance. Don't make me break out my Bible, Koran or any other religious writings. Your talking to someone who spent time in Bible school here.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
I don't hate anyone. I said all christians should hate the jews. I have no religion.

So Jesus performed miracles on the Sabbath (sunday) and broke ROMAN law saying he was the Son Of God... I still fail to see why the Jews would pick a thief and murderer over Jesus. Barabus was the lowest of the low, a law breaker in the extreme. What Jesus did doesn't seem comparible to murder...

The Romans offered the choice to release a prisoner... The Romans were probably more surprised than anyone when jesus wasn't chosen.
 

medicinaluseonly

Well-Known Member
I think it was Blasphemy that got Jesus screwed. The (Mullas) Jewish priests, didn't like anyone proclaiming to be the son of God and riled the people against him, afterall, he had desecrated the "Temple" and called the priests the Devils henchmen. It didn't take many priests in the crowd to get the chant going "give us Barabus", they didn't want anyone challenging their authority. Jesus was screwed by the Jewish priests just like Mel Gibson proclaimed in "The Passion"! I hope this clears this up. If jesus came today, He would be screwed by everyone in power and thrown in jail at the least, and with Bush's new laws, never heard from again!
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
The Jews are still responsible... not that it matters much anyway, Jesus was seen all over the place after he was executed... a bit like Elvis... maybe Elvis really was Jesus incarnate.
 
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