Please state your Obama Lies here

Status
Not open for further replies.

greenlikemoney

Well-Known Member
If you don't mind me asking, what tribe do you belong? And how much do you receive from the government per month/year?
Receive from the Government?

Neither I, nor any of my family members, receive anything from the government. Never have. We have worked for everything we've ever received. You must be mistaking me for a welfare Indian. Sorry, we don't play that in my "tribe/clan".
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
That isn't true, Blacks don't commit more crimes than whites. Whites outnumber blacks like 7 to 1 in this country, the statistics are in favor of whites by a great deal to commit crimes. Blacks generally do not come from the upper middle class suburbs and never learn much white collar crime, so they turn to more direct types of crime for the quick buck and a hustlers attitude. Things like robbery, drug dealing, murder for hire, muggings are much more common in those poorer communities. These crimes are usually so heinous in the minds of most people due to their physical and violent nature that the citizens demand action due to fear that it might happen to them. People don't protest as much or grab the pitchforks and torches when some Con artist white man commits embezzlement and puts 20-100 people in the poor house. People don't fear those kinds of deals because they figure they will be able to avoid such pitfalls. Much easier to catch a murderer who left finger prints behind than an insider trader using dark pools to make trades illegally.

Honestly Red, Black people do not have a propensity to commit crimes, its the nature of the crimes and the attitudes of people towards those crimes that gets the brunt of police resources spent on them and therefore you end up having blacks be arrested more often.
actually the FBI crime statistics dont bear that out, black persons are busted for "white collar crime" far in excess of their representation in the population (~12%)

forgery/counterfeiting: 32.7% of arrests

fraud: 31.6% of arrests

embezzlement: 33.2% of arrests

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

curiously, drunk driving arrests are an entirely representative 12.1% of arrests.

drunk driving is the ONLY category where blacks are arrested in proportion to their representation in the population.

this does not suggest that the courts or the cops are more lenient on white criminals, it demonstrates that blacks simply commit FAR more crimes, and/or are much less skilled at avoiding official scrutiny.

perhaps we need a new targeted program to teach black perps how to get caught less...

http://nevergetbusted.com/
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
actually the FBI crime statistics dont bear that out, black persons are busted for "white collar crime" far in excess of their representation in the population (~12%)

forgery/counterfeiting: 32.7% of arrests

fraud: 31.6% of arrests

embezzlement: 33.2% of arrests

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

curiously, drunk driving arrests are an entirely representative 12.1% of arrests.

drunk driving is the ONLY category where blacks are arrested in proportion to their representation in the population.

this does not suggest that the courts or the cops are more lenient on white criminals, it demonstrates that blacks simply commit FAR more crimes, and/or are much less skilled at avoiding official scrutiny.

perhaps we need a new targeted program to teach black perps how to get caught less...

http://nevergetbusted.com/
Curiously, Latino is missing, considered white or black?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
anyone want to message all this to red?

i think he might have forgotten to take a look at this before running away last night.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Curiously, Latino is missing, considered white or black?
chicanos are counted as white for crime statistics. they are classed as an "ethnicity" not a race, which means the honkey crime stats get that much needed boost to make black crime look less horrifying
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
black crime is horrifying. white crime is just kids having fun.

hey kynes, do black people have a propensity towards crime?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
black crime is horrifying. white crime is just kids having fun.

hey kynes, do black people have a propensity towards crime?
12% of the population committing ~30+% of even white collar crimes?

that is horrifying in it's scope

in violent crime categories the numbers are even more shocking.

remember, ~12% of the population...

so yes, they DO commit more crimes, HUGELY more which is the definition of a propensity for more crime.

this however is SOCIAL in nature, not racial.

thats where you always fail to get the idea.

even in the same "SES" blacks commit more crime per capita than any other group.

this is a result of black "culture" not black skin.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
12% of the population committing ~30+% of even white collar crimes?

that is horrifying in it's scope

in violent crime categories the numbers are even more shocking.

remember, ~12% of the population...

so yes, they DO commit more crimes, HUGELY more which is the definition of a propensity for more crime.

this however is SOCIAL in nature, not racial.

thats where you always fail to get the idea.

even in the same "SES" blacks commit more crime per capita than any other group.

this is a result of black "culture" not black skin.
so if i hang around black people, i'll be more inclined to commit crime?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
so if i hang around black people, i'll be more inclined to commit crime?
if you are subsumed into "black culture" and hang out "in tha streets", you will by definition be committing more crimes, but worse, committing them in full view of law enforcement which will get you busted more often.

this single factor (doing shit "in tha streets") cannot help but skew the numbers and increase the perception of black crime, yet only actually committing more crimes could account for the huge disparity between population at large and population behind bars.

the few crimes which ALWAYS occur "in tha streets" (drunk in public, drunk driving and vagrancy) are much closer to black representation in the population than the other crimes listed.

even the thickest, least intelligent person should recognize that this alone indicates that STREET CRIME (a black community classic) is much easier to catch than smoking weed in your house or apartment, but SERIOUS crime (rape murder etc) is vigorously pursued even if it happens in private, since rape victims and corpses have a disconcerting propensity to come under official scrutiny.

the cases of fraud, embezzlement and forgery are STILL more than double black representation in the population, and are generally considered to be upper level "SES" crimes, which you seem to be glossing over.

your previous excuse, that "SES" and poverty makes crime, does not explain 12% of the population doing 33.2% of the embezzlement.

if one group making up ~12% of the population committs 33.2% of the embezzlement, this should indicate that this group has a propensity to embezzle at the least, particularly when (as you have previously stated) their "SES" makes attaining the positions of power needed for embezzlement so difficult.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
wow, that was rich.

where did those FBI numbers list the average SES of embezzlers?

i think hanging out "in tha streets" as you so elegantly put it might lead to increased crime rates no matter what your skin color is.

that you try to make this synonymous with "black culture" and black culture only is your thing. it is similar to how you try to appropriate education and "speaking properly" to white people and white people only.

when tested out in real life, your obvious racial overtones are revealed for the cheap, ugly racial stereotypes that they are.

by the way, i asked you a yes or no question, i was not teeing you up for the introduction to chapter seven of your manifesto:*if i hang around black people, will i be more inclined to commit crime?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
wow, that was rich.

where did those FBI numbers list the average SES of embezzlers?

i think hanging out "in tha streets" as you so elegantly put it might lead to increased crime rates no matter what your skin color is.

that you try to make this synonymous with "black culture" and black culture only is your thing. it is similar to how you try to appropriate education and "speaking properly" to white people and white people only.

when tested out in real life, your obvious racial overtones are revealed for the cheap, ugly racial stereotypes that they are.

by the way, i asked you a yes or no question, i was not teeing you up for the introduction to chapter seven of your manifesto:*if i hang around black people, will i be more inclined to commit crime?
i have previously posted the "SES" breakdown of crime and race, that you refuse to accept it is your own problem.

black society DOES encourage crime, particularly violent crime and profit motivated crime.

crimes of laziness and stupidity (vagrancy, dui, and drunk in public) are fairly representative of the black population's proportion of the population, but these crimes are not lionized in "black culture" any more than they are in "white culture"

lindsay lohan alone kicks white DUI's into the stratosphere so you can harly blame that on racial profiling or "SES"

it really is a fairly straightforward observation:

"black culture" lionizes a variety of crimes, particularly those involving theft drug dealing and violence, and the well understood tendency for these crimes to happen "in tha streets" simply makes catching the perps easier.

only a combination of MORE CRIME and general inability to coceal these crimes behind closed doors can explain why so many more perps are black than their population can account for, all things being equal.

even crimes which blacks simply do NOT commit more of than whitey, like smoking weed, blacks are more often arrested and prosecuted because they do it where they are almost certain to be caught.

you might as well insist that the cops are deliberately ignoring crimes by asians, since their rate of crime is so much lower than their representation in the population.

or is it possible asian culture frowns on crime, and thus they do it less?
 

Pinworm

Well-Known Member
Kynes is a pane of glass. He could not possibly be any more transparent. Not even if he cared to try. The poor guy oozes prejudice, and hate. Kind of a sad story, really.


What the fuck does he know about living on the streets anyways? He should try squatting in an abandoned warehouse with nothing but a sleeping bag, a hoodie, and a pair of boots for 6 months and THEN try explaining how "shit works" "in the streets".

clownshoes.jpg
 

Nutes and Nugs

Well-Known Member
Kynes is a pane of glass. He could not possibly be any more transparent. Not even if he cared to try. The poor guy oozes prejudice, and hate. Kind of a sad story, really.


What the fuck does he know about living on the streets anyways? He should try squatting in an abandoned warehouse with nothing but a sleeping bag, a hoodie, and a pair of boots for 6 months and THEN try explaining how "shit works" "in the streets".

View attachment 2905390
I dunno where some of you people live but on my local news, in the capital city,
8 outta 10 crimes are black on black crimes.

And BTW, Mr. Kynes know his ass from a hole in the ground.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
argumentum ad lohanus indicates that if you hang around with black people, you'll be more inclined to commit crime.

does anyone else here suddenly feel like committing more crime when they hang around with black people?

i haven't had any black friends since high school, although there was one black guy among the group of co-workers i used to invite over for poker. i don't recall the experience making me more likely to forge a check or anything like that.

being poor certainly made me ponder some skeazy ways of making a buck, but not so much hanging around black people.

i bet kynes would know though, he seems like the type that has a lot of black friends.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I dunno where some of you people live but on my local news, in the capital city,
8 outta 10 crimes are black on black crimes.

And BTW, Mr. Kynes know his ass from a hole in the ground.
are you even literate? are you following the conversation?

the conversation right now is focused squarely on one proposition: do blacks just have some propensity, some inclination, or natural tendency, to commit more crime?

some people say no (nodrama, myself, others)

some people said yes before they said no and got called the fuck out on it (red1966)

some people say no, but if you hang out with them, yes (kynes)

what you saw on the local news in shitshatapoopton, arkansas is not really a stellar contribution.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top