Couch_Lock
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I live in the Adirondacks, grew outside 40 yrs. But you are entitled to your opinion, its just wrong. Outside weed can be as potent, its NEVER as tasty because you have little control over the environment.
Please recommend outdoor varieties that give indoor quality
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Ailalelo
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It is common knowledge that well grown outdoors is usually tastier than indoors. I'm sorry you just can't do it. Try a greenhouse or something.
Couch_Lock
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Haha......you aren't worth talking to. Too stupid......(ignored, you are my first ignore)
Ailalelo
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I'm sorry for you.
Tangerine_
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I'm on the northeast coast and Blueberry lines have always done well here.
thumper60
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Have you tried this strain outdoor? Iam in maine an always looking.
Couch_Lock
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Actually I gave a local connect the Goji OG pack I had....He still grows outdoors, I no longer do. I'm an indoor noob grower, just started grow #3 inside.
waterproof808
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Maybe that's true for yourself but it is not a fact for the rest of the planet. Some regions are better suited for full sun outdoor, and good greenhouse weed can be just as dank as any indoor at a much lower carbon footprint. Some farmers want to make use of Mother Nature and others want to completely remove it from the equation. Good farmers exist indoor and out.
skinitti666
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Hey so would 42 be good in northern Illinois. I'm going to attempt one on my balcony
Ailalelo
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Although there is no definitive scientific evidence yet, lately some studies have shown that plants put under UV radiation increase their cannabinoid and terpene profile. Also, the sun radiation is up to 1000W per square meter in the central hours, and this is much stronger than indoor lighting. Most people are growing indoors with 400-600 W per square meter and these lamps have a luminous efficiency of around 50% (I don't remember exactly). And most of the indoors lamps lack the UVA and UVB the sun provides.
I think most people growing indoors and outdoors have experienced the improved flavor and effect of well grown outdoors weed. The problem is that here at 43ºN not every year is a good one and some wet years can mean a failed crop. If after 40 years growing outdoors you haven't had a good crop you can compare to indoors, maybe the climate in your place is not adequate. Maybe these strains that are made for indoors so they are slow or don't stand that climate.
Go for fast strains and forget OGs, Chems and similar strains. They are slow and don't stand humid weather. I've had very good results outdoors with Jack Herer, that resist botrytis very well, Black Domina, that is very fast, and some others like Mextiza (sativa), Taskenti (pure indica) and Green Poison, that is a very fast Early Skunk that matures so fast I could't believe.
PS: If there are vineyards, the place is good for weed.
Good luck
I think most people growing indoors and outdoors have experienced the improved flavor and effect of well grown outdoors weed. The problem is that here at 43ºN not every year is a good one and some wet years can mean a failed crop. If after 40 years growing outdoors you haven't had a good crop you can compare to indoors, maybe the climate in your place is not adequate. Maybe these strains that are made for indoors so they are slow or don't stand that climate.
Go for fast strains and forget OGs, Chems and similar strains. They are slow and don't stand humid weather. I've had very good results outdoors with Jack Herer, that resist botrytis very well, Black Domina, that is very fast, and some others like Mextiza (sativa), Taskenti (pure indica) and Green Poison, that is a very fast Early Skunk that matures so fast I could't believe.
PS: If there are vineyards, the place is good for weed.
Good luck
psychadelibud
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Whose early skunk did you use? Sensi's, I assume?
Ailalelo
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Not me, but Sweet Seeds guys. Sweet Seeds is a Spanish seedbank, they don't do real breeding, they just mix different keepers from strains made by other people, like most of seedbanks today. They made a very nice strain mixing a Skunk with an old Early Skunk probably from Sensi from the 90's. Before Sensi became a piece the fraudsters they became later.
psychadelibud
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I know all this, but what I'm asking is if you grown it out from sensi stock. So you're talking about green poison, I got you now, I was a little confused when I first read your post...
Everyone talks about how the original sensi stock has changed so much. We grew lots of old school pre 2002 sensi gear back in our commercial guerilla days. Still several old cuts floating around that was found. Four way, shiva, black Domina, nl5 x haze, a few afghanis just to name a few. I always absolutely loved the fourway. Such a huge yielder of bright light green skunky/coffee/earthy buds, finishes decently early here in the bluegrass state and excellent mold resistance.
We moved onto other things around 2005 and started breeding our own crosses and tried other seed banks. I will say this though, 5 years ago I kept reading how sensi sucks now. I purchased a 10 pack of Northern Lights from them just for the hell of it and grew it out indoors. Out of all of them I had 5 females and 5 males. All phenos were very nice, most all of them were alike with a hashy, piney and spicey odor. But one, was an absolute different pheno. I thought u had first got it confused with a Barneys LSD plant and had mislabeled. But I didn't. It was just so different and was completely finished in only 55 days. It had a hashy, skunky, sorta fruity/berry smell to it. Very very strong terps and frosty as all get out.
I later found out it was a NL#5 pheno and it was phenomenal. Probably some of the best bud I had ever grown all the years previous to that one. The high was unlike the other NL phenos, it was more uplifting and cerebral, came on really fast and would fuck you up. Very psychedelic in a way. Anyways never got the chance to run it outdoors but I would imagine it would had been a beast, the yields were great to be such an early finishing strain. I lost the cut after the second run with it. Friends still ask me about it till this day. Thinking about running another pack to look for it again.
Point is, sensi still has fire in there and it only took me one pack to find it. Then again, could have got luck of the draw... Either way, I'll never forget it. I actually have a photo of it somewhere on here on RIU back when I first joined, I'll look for it and post it later.
psychadelibud
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How did that green poison smell? What lat are you at and how early exactly did it finish??
psychadelibud
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I found that NL#5 pheno I had. Low quality camera back then lol but still makes my mouth water and palms sweat thinking about it.
natureboygrower
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I think unless you have a fall like we did last season, you may have some issues having that finish up in time. I harvested a seeded goji last October, but it was all seeds, hardly any bud and the weather was sunny and windy.
But you do light dep right? Probably work out fine for you if you're going to run it in there.
Tangerine_
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I've grown out Bodhis Goji OG and from two packs I didn't have a single plant that finished in under 10wks inside. Most went longer. I love Goji but IMO, its not the greatest pick for an outdoor grow unless in a greenhouse or better conditions than the northeast.
I did some chucks with Goji a couple summers ago outside and it was a complete bust. Well, maybe not completely because I did end up with seeds but there was a LOT of rot.
The Blueberry Shortcakes I did this year finished beautifully by middle Oct. I know this cross used an old blueberry line because it had those same crinkle leaves and deep berry terps. Smelled liked you were standing in the middle of the barrens in August.
I say find a good NL or Blueberry and you'll be safe even if your season is short, wet, cold and damp, like mine.
I did some chucks with Goji a couple summers ago outside and it was a complete bust. Well, maybe not completely because I did end up with seeds but there was a LOT of rot.
The Blueberry Shortcakes I did this year finished beautifully by middle Oct. I know this cross used an old blueberry line because it had those same crinkle leaves and deep berry terps. Smelled liked you were standing in the middle of the barrens in August.
I say find a good NL or Blueberry and you'll be safe even if your season is short, wet, cold and damp, like mine.
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Ailalelo
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Productive and fast, smelling strong like fruit and flowers. Sweet and nice. I believe it was ready in the last half of September
Green Poison®
A mostly indica hybrid featuring very high yield. With this strain we sought for a fast and productive plant, with exquisite taste and aroma. One of the most awarded and appreciated plants of our catalog.
I believe the guy at geataway mountain seeds worked quite a bit with the green poison. Had some luck od with some of his r2poison crossesProductive and fast, smelling strong like fruit and flowers. Sweet and nice. I believe it was ready in the last half of September
Green Poison®
A mostly indica hybrid featuring very high yield. With this strain we sought for a fast and productive plant, with exquisite taste and aroma. One of the most awarded and appreciated plants of our catalog.sweetseeds.es