Please help with my monster!

Funkentelechy

Funkentelechy

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Latitude does affect when plants are triggered to flower. Romania is at around 45 degrees north, give or take a few degrees depending on where you are in Romania, I am at 40 degrees north.
 
Gramada

Gramada

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Funkentelechy said:
Latitude does affect when plants are triggered to flower. Romania is at around 45 degrees north, give or take a few degrees depending on where you are in Romania, I am at 40 degrees north.
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I am at 45 degrees east in Romania. i made some research, and yes, it look like august is the month for tiggering to flower.
I look at the other plants that had not started to bloom and are still on standby as well. This one from this post is not reveggin', cause i don't see new leaves coming out, neither on top.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Gramada said:
Who told you that? Of course sun can burn parts of a plant after rain. When u grow vegetables, u can see sun burn signs after rain, leaves are first that show signs
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All vegetation would get burned after a rain fall, and then sunlight. It wouldn't make much sense for nature to develop it that way.
 
Gramada

Gramada

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Hollatchaboy said:
All vegetation would get burned after a rain fall, and then sunlight. It wouldn't make much sense for nature to develop it that way.
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My friend, come with a firm explanation. To laugh is simple and at the same time without logic, in your case.
The drops of water on the leaves act like a magnifying glass and the sun's rays burn the plant.
It is not good to water the plants when it is sunny. You do it either in the morning before sunrise or at least when the sun is not yet strong enough, or after sunset. Why? In order not to subject the plants to a thermal shock through the sudden transition from hot to cold, coming into contact with cold water after being in the scorching sun.
 
Billy the Mountain

Billy the Mountain

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Gramada said:
My friend, come with a firm explanation. To laugh is simple and at the same time without logic, in your case.
The drops of water on the leaves act like a magnifying glass and the sun's rays burn the plant.
It is not good to water the plants when it is sunny. You do it either in the morning before sunrise or at least when the sun is not yet strong enough, or after sunset. Why? In order not to subject the plants to a thermal shock through the sudden transition from hot to cold, coming into contact with cold water after being in the scorching sun.
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Science says no. Water drops on a leaf do not concentrate light like a lense.

If you're skeptical, empirically experiment yourself; it's an easy fallacy to disprove.

Simply spray your plants with some water on a sunny day and observe what happens rather than simply repeat some bro-science you read somewhere.
 
TCH

TCH

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Gramada said:
My friend, come with a firm explanation. To laugh is simple and at the same time without logic, in your case.
The drops of water on the leaves act like a magnifying glass and the sun's rays burn the plant.
It is not good to water the plants when it is sunny. You do it either in the morning before sunrise or at least when the sun is not yet strong enough, or after sunset. Why? In order not to subject the plants to a thermal shock through the sudden transition from hot to cold, coming into contact with cold water after being in the scorching sun.
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The main reason to not water in the sun and heat is that it's a waste of water as a lot of it evaporates. By watering in the evening or early morning, the water can soak into the ground and roots before the heat evaporates it.

If water after rain burnt plants when the sun comes out immediately following the rain, entire crops would completely burn up and would likely never get to finish. That said, it's not a bad idea to just water the soil around the plants and not leave a bunch of water all over the leaves as it can promote rotting and mold growth in poor conditions.
 
Gramada

Gramada

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Billy the Mountain said:
Science says no. Water drops on a leaf do not concentrate light like a lense.

If you're skeptical, empirically experiment yourself; it's an easy fallacy to disprove.

Simply spray your plants with some water on a sunny day and observe what happens rather than simply repeat some bro-science you read somewhere.
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The sun heats the flower quite strongly. If the rain comes instantly, without a period of clouds to cool the plants, the cold water coming from the clouds will come into direct contact with the hot flower and the reaction will not be very pleasant. I am not a skeptic, but a realist and I try to make sense of it. The rain does not come in the form of spray, but drops, so I have no reason to do the test specified by you. I don't read, I try to think logically. Think about the effects of the skin exposed to the strong sun after you get out of the water. Even if not immediately. So, burnt hairs is from this reason. And not to forget that hairs are very sensitive..
Maybe I'm wrong and I have a problem with this, but it makes a lot of sense to me.
 
Gramada

Gramada

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TCH said:
The main reason to not water in the sun and heat is that it's a waste of water as a lot of it evaporates. By watering in the evening or early morning, the water can soak into the ground and roots before the heat evaporates it.

If water after rain burnt plants when the sun comes out immediately following the rain, entire crops would completely burn up and would likely never get to finish. That said, it's not a bad idea to just water the soil around the plants and not leave a bunch of water all over the leaves as it can promote rotting and mold growth in poor conditions.
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Same answer that just gave to Billy seconds ago, it applies to you, too.
 
Billy the Mountain

Billy the Mountain

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Gramada said:
The sun heats the flower quite strongly. If the rain comes instantly, without a period of clouds to cool the plants, the cold water coming from the clouds will come into direct contact with the hot flower and the reaction will not be very pleasant. I am not a skeptic, but a realist and I try to make sense of it. The rain does not come in the form of spray, but drops, so I have no reason to do the test specified by you. I don't read, I try to think logically. Think about the effects of the skin exposed to the strong sun after you get out of the water. Even if not immediately. So, burnt hairs is from this reason. And not to forget that hairs are very sensitive..
Maybe I'm wrong and I have a problem with this, but it makes a lot of sense to me.
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You're wrong.
This can be easily demonstrated by a simple experiment that can even be accomplished by someone who doesn't read. If you chose to bury your head in the sand rather than attempt to learn something, that's your prerogative.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Gramada said:
My friend, come with a firm explanation. To laugh is simple and at the same time without logic, in your case.
The drops of water on the leaves act like a magnifying glass and the sun's rays burn the plant.
It is not good to water the plants when it is sunny. You do it either in the morning before sunrise or at least when the sun is not yet strong enough, or after sunset. Why? In order not to subject the plants to a thermal shock through the sudden transition from hot to cold, coming into contact with cold water after being in the scorching sun.
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If that was the case, no grass or tree leaves, bushes...etc.... would ever be green. It rains, then gets sunny. Everything growing outside would be burnt.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Gramada said:
The sun heats the flower quite strongly. If the rain comes instantly, without a period of clouds to cool the plants, the cold water coming from the clouds will come into direct contact with the hot flower and the reaction will not be very pleasant. I am not a skeptic, but a realist and I try to make sense of it. The rain does not come in the form of spray, but drops, so I have no reason to do the test specified by you. I don't read, I try to think logically. Think about the effects of the skin exposed to the strong sun after you get out of the water. Even if not immediately. So, burnt hairs is from this reason. And not to forget that hairs are very sensitive..
Maybe I'm wrong and I have a problem with this, but it makes a lot of sense to me.
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So.... when it's hot out, and you're outside, heating up, and then it rains, what happens? Do you melt?
 
Gramada

Gramada

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Billy the Mountain said:
You're wrong.
This can be easily demonstrated by a simple experiment that can even be accomplished by someone who doesn't read. If you chose to bury your head in the sand rather than attempt to learn something, that's your prerogative.
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Ok, so i'm wrong. I will learn from this, i'm not a child. I said i could be wrong. Thank u
 
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