Please Help.....Watering question

Four20.mpeg · Mar 21, 2010

I have five ladies about ten days into flowering and for about the last month or so evertime i wter em all the leaves get droopy and stay like that for a few hours then perks back up. What can b the prob? the water is distilled and room temp...... is it even strange at all this is happening ,or is it somewhat normal.

riddleme · Mar 21, 2010

Four20.mpeg said:
I have five ladies about ten days into flowering and for about the last month or so evertime i wter em all the leaves get droopy and stay like that for a few hours then perks back up. What can b the prob? the water is distilled and room temp...... is it even strange at all this is happening ,or is it somewhat normal.

It is normal and a sign to me that you are watering properly

ElectricPineapple · Mar 21, 2010

nah this can be a normal response from them. you may wait a lil longer in between waterings. could be a sign of some acute over watering. but if it is only like that for a few hours. what is the RH

KaleoXxX · Mar 21, 2010

you may be giving them a lil too much water, but other than that its normal for plants to droop and perk themselves back up

ElectricPineapple · Mar 21, 2010

haha thanks riddleme. thats a a little what i was thinking but wasnt for sure.

Babs34 · Mar 21, 2010

You may be using too much water in one session. Try more frequent watering with less.

I disagree with so many on RIU who will tell you to completely allow your medium to dry out.

Keep it moderately moist, the keyword being "moderate."

KaleoXxX · Mar 21, 2010

Babs34 said:
You may be using too much water in one session. Try more frequent watering with less.

I disagree with so many on RIU who will tell you to completely allow your medium to dry out.

Keep it moderately moist, the keyword being "moderate."

letting the soil dry out helps root growth and makes it about 50% more likely you wont get root rot

Four20.mpeg · Mar 21, 2010

the rh is average 40% and i have a ph/moisture meter that il stick as far down as it will go into the medium and take a reading of the moisture level and usually i wont water em until i see that its almost dry not completely but average, than il water moderately till i see it start to drain.....wich normally is about 1/3 of a gallon and each container is three gallons.

Babs34 · Mar 21, 2010

KaleoXxX said:
letting the soil dry out helps root growth and makes it about 50% more likely you wont get root rot

There's definitely more than one way to water.

I don't ever let my medium completely dry out because I keep it properly watered.

I allow for the watering to dry to right above the root level and than lightly water/feed.....works well for me. :leaf:

riddleme · Mar 21, 2010

Four20.mpeg said:
the rh is average 40% and i have a ph/moisture meter that il stick as far down as it will go into the medium and take a reading of the moisture level and usually i wont water em until i see that its almost dry not completely but average, than il water moderately till i see it start to drain.....wich normally is about 1/3 of a gallon and each container is three gallons.

Sounds like your going improper, you should be watering for plenty of runoff not measured

and moisture meters are crap when it comes to growing MJ, better to learn to read the plant, it will tell you when to water if you know what to look for

Four20.mpeg · Mar 21, 2010

riddleme said:
Sounds like your going improper, you should be watering for plenty of runoff not measured

and moisture meters are crap when it comes to growing MJ, better to learn to read the plant, it will tell you when to water if you know what to look for

ya i understand u have to read the plant know when it needs water ,food,etc. but what would be a sign u need to water or if your watering to much?

ElectricPineapple · Mar 21, 2010

when the leaves start to droop. let it dry out and start showing signs of underwatering. i read in another thread that is was better to create a drought environment where it starts showing signs of under watering, then water them. this trains the plant to take in the nutrients more efficiently. and water. dont know if this is true or not. but i will let it do this every other watering. but i still let the medium dry out. let it dry out and pick up the pot. learn the weight of it dry and wet then when moist. this way you know when it is dry by the weight.

vh13 · Mar 21, 2010

Runoff is important with soil, it's what allows salts to be washed away.

Babs34, I agree with you on soil dryness. It's funny how often people recommend one extreme to prevent another. Root rot is a very real concern for water sensitive plants, but bone dry soil is not an ideal solution.

For the fastest growth rate in soil keep the micro-organisms in the soil alive to maximize water and nutrient uptake efficiency. Let the soil dry out completely and all those micro-organisms die off and need to repopulate with the next watering.

Learn to read your plants, they'll tell you they're thirsty long before the soil dries out. For example: with Marijuana the leaves will point upward when the plant is thirsty, and they'll get stiff and curl downward when the plant is drowning. If the leaves are limp, or "drooping," then the plant is in shock and is approaching death.

riddleme · Mar 21, 2010

vh13 said:
Runoff is important with soil, it's what allows salts to be washed away.

Babs34, I agree with you on soil dryness. It's funny how often people recommend one extreme to prevent another. Root rot is a very real concern for water sensitive plants, but bone dry soil is not an ideal solution.

For the fastest growth rate in soil keep the micro-organisms in the soil alive to maximize water and nutrient uptake efficiency. Let the soil dry out completely and all those micro-organisms die off and need to repopulate with the next watering.

Learn to read your plants, they'll tell you they're thirsty long before the soil dries out. For example: with Marijuana the leaves will point upward when the plant is thirsty, and they'll get stiff and curl downward when the plant is drowning.

Leaves pointing upward is a sign plant is transpiring to hard and is a symptom of heat/moisture stress

when underwatered the leaves droop just like when overwatered, difference is the stems droop when underwatered

time to water is first sign of leaves drooping, waiting for stem droop is sign you waited to long (but everyone should do it once to see what it looks like)

Four20.mpeg · Mar 21, 2010

this is about 30 min after watering

vh13 · Mar 21, 2010

riddleme said:
Leaves pointing upward is a sign plant is transpiring to hard and is a symptom of heat/moisture stress

Interesting. I live in a hot, dry climate, so this may only apply in my area, not necessarily to others then.

riddleme said:
when underwatered the leaves droop just like when overwatered, difference is the stems droop when underwatered

time to water is first sign of leaves drooping, waiting for stem droop is sign you waited to long (but everyone should do it once to see what it looks like)

This is what I meant by "shock." I think this is too dry, well past time to water. But maybe that's only because in my hot, dry climate this kind of stress is more likely to be fatal.

Babs34 · Mar 21, 2010

I'm curious as to what it looked like right before the watering.

That picture there looks like one of my plants, which is very sensitive to any kind of watering or feeding. It also tends to have leaves like that when placed too closely to the lights. Fans help in that case.

Watering and feeding will obviously vary with the strain you are growing. I have a couple of strains going right now that suck up water and nutrients like I've never seen before. I'm loving it because I tend to have a heavy watering hand.

You may want to take into consideration your nutrients and lighting, along with how much and how often you water.

Four20.mpeg · Mar 21, 2010

Babs34 said:
I'm curious as to what it looked like right before the watering.

That picture there looks like one of my plants, which is very sensitive to any kind of watering or feeding. It also tends to have leaves like that when placed too closely to the lights. Fans help in that case.

Watering and feeding will obviously vary with the strain you are growing. I have a couple of strains going right now that suck up water and nutrients like I've never seen before. I'm loving it because I tend to have a heavy watering hand.

You may want to take into consideration your nutrients and lighting, along with how much and how often you water.

ya il post another pic whithin the next couple of hours and you should be able to see the difference.......and the only thing i feed my plants is worm casting tea that i water the plant with every other watering and foliar feed maybe three times a week, wich seems to be workin great....only ten days into flowering and their off to a great start. by the way i dont know what strain they are.

Babs34 · Mar 21, 2010

What are you foliar feeding with?
....I'd say with foliar feeding, just make sure you do it in the A.M. and allow them to dry prior to placing under heat/lights.
I'll check out your picture later and throw in my two cents for whatever it's worth.

Four20.mpeg · Mar 21, 2010

Babs34 said:
What are you foliar feeding with?
....I'd say with foliar feeding, just make sure you do it in the A.M. and allow them to dry prior to placing under heat/lights.
I'll check out your picture later and throw in my two cents for whatever it's worth.

heres another pic about three hrs after watering and for the most part its perky a few drooping leaves but all n all seems happy.....and i foliar feed with worm casting tea i make out of worm castings.

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