Please Help, Beginning of 3rd Weed Veg

Elliesdaddy

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Wilma i believe?
but i'm quiet happy to do this next grow in coco again although i've learnt alot about hydro and self induced vitamins i wouldn't consider myself "pro" yet but i'll see
 

JASON79

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i have not used a wilma system.
If you need to leave plants for 7-10 days this system sounds great
but if not, you should get better results by watering the plants when they need it
 

Elliesdaddy

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I believe it is correct to have the pump on for 15 minutes every 6 hours or it was 8, either way i would pay attention to detail over/underwatering is easily enough identified and resolved
 

Elliesdaddy

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I assume if i start these plants before i have the money i could just transplant into the wilma pots as i'll be using coco
 

Elliesdaddy

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After a bit of window shopping come to this plan
Wilma 8 pot system
http://root2success.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_64&products_id=1256
Size:
1680mm x 780mm x 190mm i'm assuming that is the Width x Length x Depth

Green room grow tent

http://root2success.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_230&products_id=1674
240cm x 240cm x 200cm

Secret Jardin Dark room

http://root2success.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_235_237&products_id=1783
240cm x 120cm x 200cm

I'm not sure which of these tent's to chose, i'd prefer the secret jardin as it is half the size but still big enough although the green room tent uses metal poles when i am going to be using 2 600watt hps's minimum both in cool tube reflectors i don't want any breaking poles.

Any advice/ideas?
 

Matchbox

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I have no opinion on tents as I don't use them.

though it will be so much cheaper to build your own wilma system, its so straight forward.
I've just built a 6-10 plant ebb and flow table for my next grow that will be properly perpetual.. cost me £17.50 for the entire setup including the pump...

one general rule I'll say is try not to get too ambitious with the amount of plants, lights etc as this is eventually how you get fucked over, which is why I keep everything low key now :)

Stay Frosty!
 

JASON79

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I have no opinion on tents as I don't use them.

though it will be so much cheaper to build your own wilma system, its so straight forward.
I've just built a 6-10 plant ebb and flow table for my next grow that will be properly perpetual.. cost me £17.50 for the entire setup including the pump...

one general rule I'll say is try not to get too ambitious with the amount of plants, lights etc as this is eventually how you get fucked over, which is why I keep everything low key now :)

Stay Frosty!
if he keeps under under 9 plants and does not get count selling it,
he should be OK, (person use) never say you have giving it to any one,
 

JASON79

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if it looks like you spent a lot of money on your set up
when you have a low income it could be hard to go for person use, if you get count
if you say any one else is involved with your setup in any way its very bad new in count
 

Elliesdaddy

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I know the law alot, i also know that they don't have a clue with prices or anything and it's also neither of their business in the end of the day if i get caught weather it's 4 plant's or 8, same consequence don't worry i will be careful
 

JASON79

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can you hang, support the carbon filter outside of the tent where duting holes are
you can pull air through a carbon filter and push air into a carbon filter
ok you do lose so of the air flow pushing air into a carbon filter but, if you had it going from inside the tent in a straight line through 2 light and carbon filter
and a powerful fan pulling the air away from carbon filter to where ever the hot air exit
i would go for the Secret Jardin Dark room
as you are thinking about the weight,
the carbon filter is
probable as heavy as both lights

 

Elliesdaddy

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I believe aswell as the tent's, wilma system and an extra 600w hps (so i have 2 running 600w hps cool tubes) i am going to get an air pump, clay pebbles,This headlight as i hate ruining the 12 hour's rest http://root2success.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_228&products_id=1635And also this reservoir heater http://root2success.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_115&products_id=995 Possible 2 250watt cfl's so one in the middle of each 4 plant'sOh also a full nutrient kit, that's if i can come to the conclusion of which line to use i have heard too much good reviews about when using the whole of the canna line but also a lot better when using advanced nutrients.
 

Elliesdaddy

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Ps, after this grow it is no longer going to be business when i get this material it's going to be purely personal use if this equipment get's me a half oz to smoke a day then so be it, no complaints :p
 

JASON79

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hows this grow going
i would have the bb x ww at the front of the tent and check every day for Hermie
it was a good strain but some of the plants opposite ends of the flower room had seeds and some did not
but i still got over 12oz a light (2x600w hps, 10 plants, 14ltrs pots, soil, 20" tall without pot, about 2.5 oz each plant, topped,had about 6 heads on each plant)
 

Elliesdaddy

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They are going well, i will get pictures up when there is a significant difference probably at the end of the 4th week of 12/12 my realistic aim is 9oz's that will have me happy but the sky's the limit
 

Elliesdaddy

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Any advice on clay pebbles?1.How do you plant a seed in clay pebbles?2. how do you transplant a seedling into clay pebbles?How much better is clay pebbles for a wilma dripper system rather than coco pro plus, if there is not much of a difference then i have no problem, it will just be coco again but if i can get much better results/yield then i will like to grow with clay pebbles.My problem is i would like to have the next grow started as soon as possible, i don't want to have to wait for delivery's and then not even be able to grow because i mess up seeds in the clay pebbles.Also big problem possibly,No balls on any of the plant's but the candy kush which is not feminized at the top of the plant has round bit's which look slightly like bud but slightly like seed they are too small to tell at the moment, this plant is covered in pistles though and all other plant's just have pistles surely if the candy kush is hermie it would be making the others produce seeds?So what does everyone think, if it is a seed shall i throw this plant away? lights on at 11 tonight so hopefully i'll be able to tell then
 

JASON79

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i am not sure on candy kush because you are say lots of pistles on the plant, if you remove any male parts you see, you may get away with it
if you keep the candy kush and end up with seeds on the other plants i will reduce yield, but by how much, not sure may be up-to a 3rd.
you only have 4 plants so it you bin one you have reduce your yield by 25% any way

a quick turn around
you are still in early flower so why not take some cutting from your best plant near the base of the plant
http://www.weedguru.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28081

lots of growers remove the bottom 6-12" in early flower, best in week 3 so it reduces chances of bugs, popcorn bud and increase airflow
cutting need very low light to start them off i 1" rockwall cubes and then put the best ones in a
4" rock-wall cubes under 1ft twin t5 tubes, any small area will do, just open door or draw once a day, it will give you a good start and save weeks
ok they might only be 6" in 5 weeks from cutting but have a good root mass and then you can put them straight in the Wilmer system with clay pebbles veg 2-3 weeks and turn over to flower
 

Elliesdaddy

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I don't have the space time or equipment to bother preserving these, i am just going to start next grow via seeds, picture up later, checked the candy kush last night and well, it's covered in bud for it's 14th day picture will be up tonight.
 
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