Please critique/comment on my plan for small personal medical grow. *kind of long*

aoyanagi

Member
Sorry for the long absence, been quite busy looking for work and doing spring cleaning early. I PM'd this to UC but forgot to post it here: I'm getting spoiled. Hubby announced that instead of a small cabinet inside our bedroom cloest he wants to build me my own (small) room. Dimensions for this room are going to be 5ft x 5ft with the ceiling just over 8ft high. He's having an electrician buddy come and wire it for us, I have 2 dedicated breakers to play with. So now I'm kind of back to square one in terms of planning because it's just so much more space to deal with. Any ideas? Do I have to build a grow box to maximize reflected light or could I plunk my fixture in the center of the room and toss some girls under it? Still planning on PAR t5, leaning more and more towards organic soil amended by my friendly knowledgeable local farm co-op. oTm if you feel like it I'd love a "must-have" list of amendments to take with me so that I can have idiot-proof soil? I want to just be able to water with the occasional molasses addition or EWC tea. No nutes.

I wanted to say more but hubby's asking me to come to bed now. He's so cuddly. Will try and update further tomorrow or tues.
 

overTHEman

Active Member
A 5x5' space is gonna be tons of fun to play with! Are you thinking about a fixture upgrade as well?

I'm honored that you asked about organic suggestions and would be more than happy to post some.

MycoGrow (or other mychorrizal fungi) - this is the basis for all organic gardening
Biotone starter plus - nutrition and microbiology (home depot/lowes/etc)
Earthworm Castings/Ancient Forest Humus - nature LOVES diversity and this is loaded with it
Jamaican Bat Guano/high P fert for flowering - another espoma product could work here
Azomite - eBay - provides trace minerals
Pulverized Garden Lime (#50 bag at lowes for $5) - make sure it's not hydrated or pelleted - ca/mg and PH stability
DECHLORINATED WATER - the most important thing. Ideally a low PPM too.

Simple and effective.

I'll PM a note about organics. Also, if you post the materials that are available in your area, we'll help sort through them and their application rates.
 

aoyanagi

Member
Revised Full Plan:

Room: 5ft x 5 ft x 8 ft Bathroom sheetrock on the walls, any moisture leakage will turn it to concrete instead of causing rot. Walls, floor, ceiling, and all metal/wood elements not behind walls painted in one coat Killz, let offgas for 2 weeks, then one coat flat white roofing paint (moisture proof and stretchy) and let to offgas for an additional 2 weeks. My husband is a member of the Oddfellows, and one of his fellow members is an electrician and will be doing all relevant work on this for us. I will have one dedicated breaker, which I believe is two circuits. Any suggestions on how to ask for them to be split/placed? Was thinking one outlet in ceiling and rest waist high? He will also be doing ventilation work, wiring a fan into wall to exterior, plan is a DIY or reasonably cheap carbon scrubber ahead of this fan. Passive intake from house interior, how to light proof this, baffles? Also, is 300 cfm sufficient I plan on having roughly twice the intake as exhaust is this correct for a passive intake? I will never have more than 4 f lowering plants at any one time, most likely just 1-2.

"Light Tent":
This idea is courtesy Undercover Cop kiss-ass I will be utilizing two 4ft 4 bulb t5 fixtures. These will be the cheap ones from growzebo on ebay as they look to just be clones of the popular brands and are quite inexpensive while coming with 6500K bulbs included. My hope is put next year's tax return into an investment in an induction fixture so it's ok if the ballast isn't the longest lasting on the market. These lights will be suspended via yo-yos from a welded frame made of small scrap pipe securely attached overhead during the framing process of the room. An "open enclosure" will surround my plants, also putting them on shelves above the concrete floor, with a painted metal grate shelf and plastic catchbasin at the very bottom in case of overwatering. This enclosure will be lined in the mylar/bubblewrap material also suggested by UC. The suspended T5 fixtures can then be angled to accomodate uneven canopy growth before LST/ScrOGing can start. Thank you Undercover! Still planning on working PAR bulbs into my setup as soon as funds allow.

Humidity/Temp: This is still a big concern for me, but I think my husband has a brilliant idea. He wants to put a wall-mount natural gas heater in the den that will also be a part of this overall remodel/repurposing of our closed off garage. He wants to vent it's excess exhaust into the grow room to both warm and enrich with a bit of CO2. Then the filtered air being exhausted from the grow room can be vented into the heater's ducting/chimmney. Both of the passive intakes from the rest of the house would therefore be blocked off for winter time growing in this scenario. In summer, the intake from the heater gets blocked off when it's turned off for the season and the passive intakes from the house opened to take advantage of the dynamics of the swamp (evaporative) cooler we already use anyway. Winter humidity issues I'm not sure - humidifier? Hang wet towels? I guess we'll see how bad of an issue it is.

Medium: Pretty much sub's super soil but with the addition of thoroughly composted horse and goat manure which I can get for free and also the MycoGrow recommended by oTm. Thank you for all your organics help too!!! Planning on a no-nute grow, just EWC tea and sulphur free molasses with every 3rd watering or so. I plan on using filtered water for my girls, the same as I give to my family to drink. Our filter says it removes chloramine and I guess I'll just have to hope it's not a lie. From what I've read passive evaporation/aeration won't remove chloramine like it can chlorine?

Genetics: I'm spoiled, I can get fat healthy clones from a dispensary less than 5 miles from my home whenever I want so long as I give them a few weeks notice to get them established in the medium of my choice. Planning on starting with Lemon Skunk, 1-2 plants for my first grow as they say it's both hardier and higher yielding than the LSD that I want to scrog for my second grow.

Budget is still in negotiation with hubby, but he agrees it will be cheaper in the long run to try and do things right the first time. Right now we're waiting on my W-2 to come in and it also seems like all my other supplies I need the vendors/stores I want to get them from are all saying they'll have their spring stuff in by mid-late Feb so my actual grow will probably have to wait until then. Which will give us plenty of time to get the construction part done in the meantime. Very excited and you guys have all been so wonderful and helpful! Any further comments or suggestions? What did I overlook?

*psychic hugs for everyone*
 

Undercover Cop

Active Member
really quick, if you have to prioritize intake or exhaust, use more exhaust up top than intake down low. 2exhaust to 1intake. It will ensure that the smells are trapped and removed by the exhaust (too much intake and the room will overpressurize and air will find gaps to leak out through)
For my lightproofing I use cardboard and cut/tape/shape it into shapes I design to fit over my fans/intake/exhausts to block light escapes/leaks... cut simple cardboard designs and tape the cuts to make them hold the shape you create, then spray paint with black flat paint. I just fixed up my rooms leaks and it really works.

(ill edit this later to add pics :)


btw I started a thread for my new grow/good genetics :) my sig, Im gonna try to document as much as I can there so you can see first hand how I have everything set up. Im switching from the water jugs to 3.5/5gal buckets too

oh and if you get 2 4ft t5 panels, get them with mixed tubes so you can shuffle them around and tweak your spectrum. If you dont plan to get any aftermarket bulbs for awhile, I would get one all 6500k and one all 3000k so you can move them around based on your pref. If you're gonna get any Reef waves or red suns or anything, I would get one 50/50 grow/bloom and one of the aquarium panels with 50/50 10k and 460blue, then you'd have 2 of 4 different spectrum bulbs to play with. (same price)
 

aoyanagi

Member
Thank you for the intake/exhaust advice! So for the lightproofing something like a black S curve? Also, subbed to your new grow UC.
 
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