Plants droop till next light cycle every time I water.

Star Dog

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The coco had been vegged in but it wasn't a solid root ball, i used the grill of a big fan as a riddle to get the roots out, i then leached it for a couple of hours then rinsed and repeated, it looks just fine to me, I've got 9 clones in it
 

BIGBALLSJOE

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man its normal its the circadian rythm
made me trip back in the days
some strains do it harder than others
you will notice that few hurs before lights on they will start pray hard again
animal cookies clone only looks like shit few hours before lights off, but it stop during bloom
exodus cheese cut shows it way less
nothing about oxygenation of the roots of anything else, as long as they wake up fine you're good
overwtaering symptoms are different, learn how to make difference
 

Merkn4aSquirtn

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The coco had been vegged in but it wasn't a solid root ball, i used the grill of a big fan as a riddle to get the roots out, i then leached it for a couple of hours then rinsed and repeated, it looks just fine to me, I've got 9 clones in it
I didn’t bother even cleaning or sifting the roots out.
It actually came out nice by just taking what I could out right after I cut the plant. Let it dry a bit. Next day, pick the root ball out and shake it as much as I can. Had some small pieces of root left over but it really blended in with the coir. Let that coco dry for a week and then water and plant.
I have another one in some petco eco earth reptile coco substrate lol.
No issues with that at all.
It’s actually doing the best since I’ve started using coco so far.
 

coreywebster

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Nice to know.
Seems like it’d be the best already buffed coir you could get.
It does get a bit dusty after a while and the bigger pieces break down so there's less water retention .
Plus from new it slow releases K for a few grows and coco specific nutrients do tend to account for that by having a bit less K .
Still it works and I think the added micro root mass breaking down helps a bit.
I probably go over board with the recycling but for me its a case of better to reuse than to have to dispose of it.
 

Romeo7701

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Temps up to 84 and they are responding nicely View attachment 4682440View attachment 4682441
Temps up to 84 and they are responding nicely View attachment 4682440View attachment 4682441
Hey dude I was having the same problem, I keep my temps between 76* and 80* lights at 20 inches, deep green leaves like yours with a little claw at the end but the girls looked great I was feeding them 20/20/20 humidity is kept between 60% and 65% I decided to back off on the feed went down to 3/4 tsp per gallon and added 1ml of call mag, 2 feedings later claw was gone and they were open hands and praying to mother Teresa thanking me... Hope this helps but they look great man good luck.
 

Romeo7701

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Perlite doesn't expand and contract like coco. Coco creates air pockets after every watering. Your roots will be less likely to drown or rot.
Hey man I don't have any Coco but I have plenty of Perlite can I add more Perlite to increase the air and uptake the roots are getting??? And would this create a more stable aireation in my soil? Thanks
 

Star Dog

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I reuse mine for a few years and add new to my pile as needed. before I moved and cleared all my evidence I had coco that was reused for 5 years.
Do you just break down and use it or do you sift the roots out?
Or is it a simple case of taking the worst out and reusing no leaching or anything?
 

Star Dog

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I didn’t bother even cleaning or sifting the roots out.
It actually came out nice by just taking what I could out right after I cut the plant. Let it dry a bit. Next day, pick the root ball out and shake it as much as I can. Had some small pieces of root left over but it really blended in with the coir. Let that coco dry for a week and then water and plant.
I have another one in some petco eco earth reptile coco substrate lol.
No issues with that at all.
It’s actually doing the best since I’ve started using coco so far.
I've broken down some old root balls it looks just fine I'm going to try it, I remember reading about the roots breaking down having some effect on the ec, its good to hear its not really the case in practice.
 

SickboyDilligaf

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Hey man I've always been told you will get dencer buds with lower temps that is why I try to maintain below 80 degrees and keep them around 76 to 78 degrees throughout my grow but that's just me...View attachment 4682958
I keep 81 highest. Usually it is at about 79 but I bumped him up to see how they responded from somebody’s advice but they are back down to 79 right now and should stay there Until the next time my feed I am going to bump them up and see if they bounce back quicker. I already kind of proved it’s a light cycle thing going on. Let’s go out in two hours and they are falling asleep already
 

SickboyDilligaf

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I've broken down some old root balls it looks just fine I'm going to try it, I remember reading about the roots breaking down having some effect on the ec, its good to hear its not really the case in practice.
They make products to break down old root mass. Do a quick google. Just add to you feed
 

Star Dog

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They'd been sitting since June, they fell apart pretty much but I will look into that product for peace of mind.
I can't believe I've been disposing of all they root balls when they were perfectly good, I've read some shite :-).
 

RetiredGuerilla

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Cannabis gets tired after 8 or 9 hours of intense light. No where on earth do they experience intense light for that duration. The light cycle I run with my system is 8 on 16 off. At the beginning of your day cycle I bet your leaves are perky waiting for the light. When they droop they are telling you it's bed time. They look fine btw. I get good size and density with 8-16.
 

coreywebster

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Do you just break down and use it or do you sift the roots out?
Or is it a simple case of taking the worst out and reusing no leaching or anything?
Because I find it easier to sift I let it dry out fully then sift it and the bigger roots get chucked away and the micro roots get left. But because I let it dry I then chuck it in a pillow case and wash it getting rid of dried salts and dust and when washed chuck a bit of cal mag in , then it goes in a tub ready to reuse.
 

tyke1973

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Perfectly natural for a plant to drop its leaves during lights off,it takes energy to hold the leaves up .So during lights of its the plants way of kind of resting,you can only really see this on a timelapse.But it is nothing to worry about,if its wilting during lights on then you are more than likely either under watering or over,allow the plants time to dry out in between waters
 

Star Dog

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I forgot to update yesterday I was tinkering with my green light, tbh I don't like disturbing them I'm not 100% about green lights?
Anyways I noticed yesterday it's the sativa dominant plants that droop there leafs the indicia was holding up as you'd expect.
 

ColoradoHighGrower

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I forgot to update yesterday I was tinkering with my green light, tbh I don't like disturbing them I'm not 100% about green lights?
Anyways I noticed yesterday it's the sativa dominant plants that droop there leafs the indicia was holding up as you'd expect.
Plants are green for a reason: they don't absorb the green portion of the visible spectrum, it mostly reflects off the leaves making them look green. Personally, i would focus on using electricity for quality broad-spectrum horticultural lights
 
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