Plant will not form pistils in flower
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CannaCountry
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I'm going to ask a very dumb question, but, what is your exact lights on, lights off regimen? And though you've already addressed the timer, forget about it being digital at the moment (I use them too, so I'm not bashing you here.)...can you somehow verify it's working correctly? The picture of your plant under normal lighting looks fantastic!...but it's quite clear, whether it be a combination of issues (light leak, High N, etc.) that your plant is being stalled from flowering. There are only so many things that are going to do this and you've eliminated 2 already and she's still fighting you...I'd double check your timer / lights on and off...like double, double check. Seems we're all stumped otherwise.
hotrodharley
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Stem color indicates PK and likely Mg deficiency.
Budzbuddha
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^^^^^ hit her with a high PK feed ... drop cycle to 10/14 and leave it.
Force flower her ass.
Force flower her ass.
Budzbuddha
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Some strains sometimes have to be “ manipulated “ either by cycle changes or by use of OPTIC FOLIAR SWITCH .... it manipulates stressors that are interfering with the order of things. I have used before and it’s interesting stuff ... it tempers male traits in your plants even herm.
It is a proprietary blend with PK ... there is more to this than what is listed. I bought a small bottle to use on BAG SEED ( Baggers / Sativa / mexi ) mostly because that shit is inbred / weak cuts. So experimenting on those were a given. I had more fems “ stabilize “ because just sowing them in dirt would get herm / seed shit. I like I got basic Sativa that I could flower / breed . Actually let them be they all can be .... lol. Street Swag can actually be kinda good if let run properly and cured right.
It is a proprietary blend with PK ... there is more to this than what is listed. I bought a small bottle to use on BAG SEED ( Baggers / Sativa / mexi ) mostly because that shit is inbred / weak cuts. So experimenting on those were a given. I had more fems “ stabilize “ because just sowing them in dirt would get herm / seed shit. I like I got basic Sativa that I could flower / breed . Actually let them be they all can be .... lol. Street Swag can actually be kinda good if let run properly and cured right.
Smokingbandit000
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My lights turn off at 7am and turn on at 7pm. I reset the time about two weeks ago again just to be safe, I checked it every half hour for an entire day while the lights were off and got no indication that they turned on during the dark cycle. It's seems strange to me.
Smokingbandit000
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I have read about longer dark cycle to help kick her in gear but I aslo read that it can chase stress to the plant. I don't understand how that would make a difference this time when I flowered it before with 12/12 same cut.
CannaCountry
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Sounds like you're doing your due diligence; I'm out of ideas at this point between all that's been discussed. Never the less, I hope you get it sorted out and please, let us all know how things turn out. I'm super curious now.
Smokingbandit000
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It's mind blowing to me right now. The only thing I could think of at this point is my timer has to be malfunction somehow. It must be turning on during the dark cycle, I'm out of other options at this point. I'm buying a new timer today to be safe and if that's not the case then I don't know what is lol. Thanks for your feedback.
min0r
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he couldn't have said it any better. your stems to your leaves are a solid purple throughout your entire plant, which makes me think that you're lacking ALOT of P that your plant NEEDS for flower, OR that you're locked out, which wouldn't make sense to me because you don't have any other problems, as far as i can tell..
spots on the bottoms leaves? that's where you'll be able to see deficiencies start to unfold.
do a soil slurry. come back with results. if you dont know how to do it, google it, it's really simple.
Smokingbandit000
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I had some spots in the past during the first couple weeks of flower. Since I stopped using tap water they have stopped forming. It's been healthy looking ever since. This strain has always given me red stems so I thought nothing of it. But then again I looked back on some old pics and it was not this bad. I wondering if I should pick up some open seseme from fox farm. Do you think this will kick it in to gear. I don't want to make to many changes. In the last week I gave it to feeding of big bloom and tiger bloom I did notice more pistils forming after I started feeding again. How much open seseme should I give it if I use it? I'll see if I can do the slurry test tonight.
min0r
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i've never used open seseme, i wouldn't be able to tell you.
Cannabis.Queen
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And he isn't asking you to shit on his light because of saving he uses it for heat reasons.. as stated.
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Sithlord88
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Thanks for clearing that up cunt
Smokingbandit000
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So anyone here experienced with using fox farm open sesame? From what I have found is it is basically like bud igniter, it forces a plant into flower and skips the strectch.
It has an npk of 5-45-19. From what people say is it works great at the recommended chart amount. And is normally used in the first couple weeks of flower to kickstart the plant to flower right away.
I'm wondering if it would be ok to use even though my plant has been in the flowering cycle for a few weeks, it's only got preflower so to me it's like its in week one still. Any info is appreciated I'm trying to figure out if I should use it soon or not.
My plant is showing signs of p deficiency so I think it will help it get going and then I can just continue with normal ff trio for the rest of the way.
It has an npk of 5-45-19. From what people say is it works great at the recommended chart amount. And is normally used in the first couple weeks of flower to kickstart the plant to flower right away.
I'm wondering if it would be ok to use even though my plant has been in the flowering cycle for a few weeks, it's only got preflower so to me it's like its in week one still. Any info is appreciated I'm trying to figure out if I should use it soon or not.
My plant is showing signs of p deficiency so I think it will help it get going and then I can just continue with normal ff trio for the rest of the way.
Smokingbandit000
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To help someone in the future if they have this problem I have figured out the main source of my problem.
I found a article written on flowering with led lights, and it stated that when using cheaper quality led lights, like the ones I have, there is a must know tip when flowering. You have to add more red light with the setup to help initiate flower. It states that the entisity is there but they are lacking enough red light. After weeks of of 12/12 my plant just kept vegging, I was going to cut it down but figured I would keep it going while I veg the replacement plants. I came across this article and decided what the hell might as well try it, I've done everything else, even replaced the timer!
It has been 7 days since I added some red light to the mix and low behold it went straight into flower! Some yellowing is occurring on a few leaves, probably because I have not giving it any nitrogen for weeks, I figured I would add some to my next feeding. Other than that I'm seeing overnight changes in it and it went from just a few pistils, to every top having flowers forming in that one week.
The trick now is keeping it healthy the rest of the way. I hope this helps some one down the Rd, I now know what I need to do for my next run and I want to thank everyone who helped along the way. It has been depressing the last couple months dealing with it but it's over now and I got some learning cureves out of the way, I share an update again with pics in a few weeks. Thanks again everyone.
I found a article written on flowering with led lights, and it stated that when using cheaper quality led lights, like the ones I have, there is a must know tip when flowering. You have to add more red light with the setup to help initiate flower. It states that the entisity is there but they are lacking enough red light. After weeks of of 12/12 my plant just kept vegging, I was going to cut it down but figured I would keep it going while I veg the replacement plants. I came across this article and decided what the hell might as well try it, I've done everything else, even replaced the timer!
It has been 7 days since I added some red light to the mix and low behold it went straight into flower! Some yellowing is occurring on a few leaves, probably because I have not giving it any nitrogen for weeks, I figured I would add some to my next feeding. Other than that I'm seeing overnight changes in it and it went from just a few pistils, to every top having flowers forming in that one week.
The trick now is keeping it healthy the rest of the way. I hope this helps some one down the Rd, I now know what I need to do for my next run and I want to thank everyone who helped along the way. It has been depressing the last couple months dealing with it but it's over now and I got some learning cureves out of the way, I share an update again with pics in a few weeks. Thanks again everyone.
simpleleaf
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In the three recent grows I've done, 36-hours of darkness seems to jumpstart flower formation. Unplug the lights for one light cycle.
Smokingbandit000
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Oh it's flowering now lol thanks I plant on doing that for now on.
Hey bud just reading your post on no pistels I'm having that problem how did you get on ? What was causing it etc .from NZ cheers bro