Plant Science Concepts/OSA 28 shut down?

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Pestrofa

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Ordered their sample pack, never arrived, no answer to email, phone number on the website was disconnected. Opened a case through PayPal. They never responded so got my money back. What's up with them? Really like OSA 28.
 
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I guess selling 16 oz of silicic acid for $170+ didn't go over very well especially when 1 lb of potassium silicate for $13 will do basically the same thing. The days of these overpriced nutrients is coming to and end as more and more people realize they're paying way too much for stuff that they don't need or can get the same result for a fraction of the price.
 
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xtsho

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Well apparently OSA 28 didn't accomplish what it was supposed to do good enough because they're out of business. You don't need it to grow great weed anyway. Base nutes and a good environment is all you need. If you want to spend a bunch of money on products that at most provide minimal gains if any at all have at it. For $170 I can buy two bottles of 18 year old single malt scotch.

I like to keep it simple. It's a plant. I grow it. No silicilic acid required.
 
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Pestrofa

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xtsho said:
Well apparently OSA 28 didn't accomplish what it was supposed to do good enough because they're out of business. You don't need it to grow great weed anyway. Base nutes and a good environment is all you need. If you want to spend a bunch of money on products that at most provide minimal gains if any at all have at it. For $170 I can buy two bottles of 18 year old single malt scotch.

I like to keep it simple. It's a plant. I grow it. No silicilic acid required.
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So you have no idea what's going on with PSC is what your saying, and what's with people getting excitable about how others spend their money? It's a strange phenomenon on these types of forums.
 
radiant Rudy

radiant Rudy

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Pestrofa said:
So you have no idea what's going on with PSC is what your saying, and what's with people getting excitable about how others spend their money? It's a strange phenomenon on these types of forums.
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IMO Grow-Sil is the best deal silica product. It is cheap, sourced from rice hulls and it is definitely taken up rapidly by my plants.
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While there's nothing wrong with keeping it simple. Best practices in any discipline, craft, endeavor are often not simple.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Growing cannabis is simple. My corn and cannabis grows as good as what's in those pictures without some overpriced additive. And nobody's excited over this.
 
radiant Rudy

radiant Rudy

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xtsho said:
Growing cannabis is simple. My corn and cannabis grows as good as what's in those pictures without some overpriced additive. And nobody's excited over this.
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If i was trying to excite you i would've posted C_ewox4XUAA1jyv.jpg

Instead im pointing out that top achievers in any endeavor take advantage of the other skilled folks who contribute to their field. All major ag producers use soil tests, agronomists and science based crop products. Greens keepers, pga are huge supporters of research and development.

Blabbering about your luddite beliefs is about your wilful ignorance, its as pathetic and useless as trumps labia.
 
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Pestrofa

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@radiant Rudy hahahaha, great Trump comment. Yeah, I agree with @xtsho that good weed can now be grown with the basics/KISS, especially with the great genetics. But there is alot of evidence regarding increased quality, yield, potency, disease/pest resistance with certain products/lighting. Small percentages here and there, added up, become significant.
 
radiant Rudy

radiant Rudy

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Pestrofa said:
@radiant Rudy hahahaha, great Trump comment. Yeah, I agree with @xtsho that good weed can now be grown with the basics/KISS, especially with the great genetics. But there is alot of evidence regarding increased quality, yield, potency, disease/pest resistance with certain products/lighting. Small percentages here and there, added up, become significant.
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No matter the crop there is nearly always an unseen deficiency or imbalance. This explains the significance of sap testing. Before a deficiency manifests itself with visible symptoms a grower is beginning to lose quality and/or yield . If you want to grow the best product relying on your own personal, naive beliefs wont get you there.

This is not a secret. From golf courses to pasture, citrus to wheat, avocado to cannabis leaders and top producers take advantage of best practices.

Xtsho is confusing simple with wilfully ignorant.
 
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xtsho

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radiant Rudy said:
No matter the crop there is nearly always an unseen deficiency or imbalance. This explains the significance of sap testing. Before a deficiency manifests itself with visible symptoms a grower is beginning to lose quality and/or yield . If you want to grow the best product relying on your own personal, naive beliefs wont get you there.

This is not a secret. From golf courses to pasture, citrus to wheat, avocado to cannabis leaders and top producers take advantage of best practices.

Xtsho is confusing simple with wilfully ignorant.
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Willfully ignorant? No I just don't care and don't need to pay for some overpriced additive that might provide minimal gains in a 4 x 4 tent. It's a damn plant. I grow it very well. I don't turn my grow into a money pit. But use whatever you want. It's your money. You seem to be confusing me with someone growing a cash crop that needs to maximize profits. I'm not.
 
radiant Rudy

radiant Rudy

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xtsho said:
Willfully ignorant? No I just don't care and don't need to pay for some overpriced additive that might provide minimal gains in a 4 x 4 tent. It's a damn plant. I grow it very well. I don't turn my grow into a money pit. But use whatever you want. It's your money. You seem to be confusing me with someone growing a cash crop that needs to maximize profits. I'm not.
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^ is synonymous with you just dont know. This position pretty much defines willful ignorance.

Using resources to optimize your quality, pest resistance, potency, complexity of genetic expression isnt something youre into. Thats cool.

Arguing that ag or horticultual products arent worthwhile is ridiculously false.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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radiant Rudy said:
^ is synonymous with you just dont know. This position pretty much defines willful ignorance.

Using resources to optimize your quality, pest resistance, potency, complexity of genetic expression isnt something youre into. Thats cool.

Arguing that ag or horticultual products arent wortwhile is ridiculously false.
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Wow! Your on a roll. Pretty easy to talk trash from the safety of your keyboard isn't it? Nobody said ag products are not worthwhile. But $170 for this crap is a waste of money. Period.
 
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radiant Rudy

radiant Rudy

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xtsho said:
Wow! Your on a roll. Pretty easy to talk trash from the safety of your keyboard isn't it? Nobody said ag products are not worthwhile. But $170 for this crap is a waste of money. Period.
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"Safety" ? You're* as harmless as you are witless and flaccid, like dotards labia.
 
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xtsho

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radiant Rudy said:
"Safety" ? You're* as harmless as you are witless and flaccid, like dotards labia.
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I don't have time for fools. I stated an opinion about a product. I stand by it. You're the witless, flacid, jerk that turned it into a personal attack towards me. Let me guess, you work in the industry and depend on selling worthless potions to naive cannabis growers.

I'm done with you.
 
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