Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions

Uncle Ben

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just the pics ben so you can have a look, i think im definitely swaying to over nuting,
Too much heat, too much P, too much light.... it's hard to say. Dave did a great job of explaining plant nutrition.

Less is more,
UB
 

badja

Active Member
Too much heat, too much P, too much light.... it's hard to say. Dave did a great job of explaining plant nutrition.

Less is more,
UB
Nitrogen lol you know i was just discussing my problem with a mate and he said nitrogen ha only problem with that is the fact canna a + b is for the vegative phase and flowering , so im gunna have to find something else to ad to the mix , thanks for the help guys:blsmoke:
 

jjfoo

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fact canna a + b is for the vegative phase and flowering , so im gunna have to find something else to ad to the mix :

if canna a + b is good for veg and flowering why do you need to add anything? I don't use canna a + b but have seen it work fine all by it self.
 

soohighrightnow

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k so im a bit confused on a issue.... i just started addin nutes last week and stopped 3 days in to adding them because i seemed to have been turning some leaves yellow....i wasnt thinking right when i added them to the water i did 2 tsp i think when i should of started like a 1/4 dose to start with but i gave them to much i think.... now the part that im confused on is i been reading alot of threads bout nute defincincy and what not and alot of them say if the lower leaves start turning yellow its a nitrogen def...but i thot i added to much nitrogen and thats wat caused the yellowing and dying of my lower leaves????i havent added any more nutes yet but am thinking about adding more but starting at a lower dose whats yalls take on all this??? thanks for any feedback
 

xxDogTagZxx

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Uncle Ben i was wondering if u could help me as to what is wrong with my plants. I have had a yellowing problem since the first month of growing and have tried everythin to fix the problem. From flushes to buyin a pH meter and keeping the pH between 5.6-6.4. I also have used distilled water and rain water to help them out. I bought new plant nutes called Bloom Booster from miracle grow that i also use with an organic nute by miracle grow. I also have put my fan on for 24 hours on medium sppeed instead of just when the lights are on. I am at about 30 days of flowerin and still have another 40 to go and the yellowing is now traveling from the bottom of the plants to the tops more rapidly. The yellowing was always at the bottom leaves and never really affected the new growth. Here are a few pics hope u can help me out before my grow dies. Thanks and hope to hear from u soon.





 

xxDogTagZxx

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k so im a bit confused on a issue.... i just started addin nutes last week and stopped 3 days in to adding them because i seemed to have been turning some leaves yellow....i wasnt thinking right when i added them to the water i did 2 tsp i think when i should of started like a 1/4 dose to start with but i gave them to much i think.... now the part that im confused on is i been reading alot of threads bout nute defincincy and what not and alot of them say if the lower leaves start turning yellow its a nitrogen def...but i thot i added to much nitrogen and thats wat caused the yellowing and dying of my lower leaves????i havent added any more nutes yet but am thinking about adding more but starting at a lower dose whats yalls take on all this??? thanks for any feedback
I have always been told that u are supposed to use about 1/4 strength of what the nute instructions say for the first few weeks then slowly give them more until u are at the full 2 tspoons.
 

DaveCoulier

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XDog, you are experiencing a N deficiency. Ignore all the crap you've read about not needing N during flowering. You do need it. This is why you have lost so many leaves, and it will continue until you give them some veg nutes. Also, I wouldn't use the Bloom Booster, or any Boosters in fact. They're great for experiencing leaf loss, and that's about it. Lack of N, plus excessive P is a great recipe for losing lots of leaves.

Also, your ladies barely look like they've been flowering 2 weeks. They should be further along for 30 days. What type of lighting are you using?
 

xxDogTagZxx

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XDog, you are experiencing a N deficiency. Ignore all the crap you've read about not needing N during flowering. You do need it. This is why you have lost so many leaves, and it will continue until you give them some veg nutes. Also, I wouldn't use the Bloom Booster, or any Boosters in fact. They're great for experiencing leaf loss, and that's about it. Lack of N, plus excessive P is a great recipe for losing lots of leaves.

Also, your ladies barely look like they've been flowering 2 weeks. They should be further along for 30 days. What type of lighting are you using?
Those pics are about a 2 weeks old. The lights are off right now and couldnt take a new pic. I just wanted u guys to get an idea of what ive been bangin my head against the wall tryin to fix. The bloom booster nute is 12-9-6 and the organic nute is 8-0-0. I just shot 2 new pics so u can see the new yellowing and drooping leaves. I havent been adding to much nutes because of the yellowing. First som1 said it was a pH problem then nute problem and have done everythin. Heres the new pics i just took.



 

DaveCoulier

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Ive never heard of a Bloom Booster that had more N than P, but sure enough it does exist. I thought you were originally using the x-30-x one. You have plenty of N to support healthy foliage from those two nutes, so It must be something else. Have you calibrated your ph meter recently? Maybe its way off and its affecting the uptake of nutrients.
 

joedfool

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Something is going on with my plants and I'm not sure how to correct it. The leaves on some of them seem to be growing funny.
*One of the plants has a rough feel to the leaves.
* The leaves on most of them are dropping down a bit.

I have included pics.

Maybe overreacting but this is my 1st time. Any thoughts are welcomed

Using Aeroflo
3 1000w mh bulbs (air cooled)
ph 6.3
ppm 1000

Any more info available on request
 

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Murfy

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Those pics are about a 2 weeks old. The lights are off right now and couldnt take a new pic. I just wanted u guys to get an idea of what ive been bangin my head against the wall tryin to fix. The bloom booster nute is 12-9-6 and the organic nute is 8-0-0. I just shot 2 new pics so u can see the new yellowing and drooping leaves. I havent been adding to much nutes because of the yellowing. First som1 said it was a pH problem then nute problem and have done everythin. Heres the new pics i just took.
uncle ben,

what is your opinion on 12-9-6 booster?
 

xxDogTagZxx

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Ive never heard of a Bloom Booster that had more N than P, but sure enough it does exist. I thought you were originally using the x-30-x one. You have plenty of N to support healthy foliage from those two nutes, so It must be something else. Have you calibrated your ph meter recently? Maybe its way off and its affecting the uptake of nutrients.
I had it shipped to me and it was calibrated before i got it. But 1 day i was checkin the pH and the meter fell inside the water for a split second. The readings were at 19.0 and i knew that wasnt right. I let it sit ova nite and used tap water to calibrate it to the best of my ability. When i tested my tap water the first day the pH meter came in it said the pH was around 9.2 or so. So i calibrated it to the tap water back to 9.2. I cant find any buffer soultion to calibrate it without ordering it online and right now im strapped for cash with rent coming up. So i thought that would werk ok for now. It says my pH is between 6.0-6.2. I dont know what else to do. I added a few drops of the organic nute just in case it was short on nitrogen after i posted this. The lights come back on at midnite and i hope to see a lil improvement. But i can say the bloom booster has made my buds almost double in size everyday to day in a half. Well thanks alot for the help every1 i hope i can fix this problem soon before the yellowing goes right to the top and ruins all my colas. Any advice or help is always apreciated. Thanks in advance
 

Murfy

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after all that, how could it even be close?

aren't Ph strips cheap at walmart for the kiddie pool
 

xxDogTagZxx

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after all that, how could it even be close?

aren't Ph strips cheap at walmart for the kiddie pool
The first day i got my pH meter i was checking the pH of the distilled water, rain water, and the tap water. I know the pH in my res is contantly changing because of addin new water and nutes but my tap water should of been unchanged. Thats y i used it as a calibration soultion since i knew the pH was around 9.2. But i do have the drops pH solutin but that shit never werks for me right. It will show up as yellow on the chart for acidic but i neva know how acidic it is and thats what made me buy the pH meter. I will double check with the drop solution tonite and see if its yellow or blue. According to the chart yellow is 5-6 and blue is ova 7. And when the meter fell in the water it was for like a tenth of a second. I dont know anymore to be honest i have tried everythin and cant get this dam yellowing to die down.
 

jjfoo

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I use calibration solution and calibrate my meter at least once a month. It is part of maintaining the meter, you can't buy it calibrated and assume it will not need it again. I have pH and PPM calibration solutions that are cheap to buy. Also, make sure you store it in a storage solution so the probe doesn't dry out...
 
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