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Lethidox

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What do you use for calcium and magnesium?
nothing that i know of. when i first started i was told i dont need cal mag because im using rain water/tap water. i never did use ro water as i only have an ro/di 4 stage filter that strips pretty much everything it reads 0.00TDS or 0.01 at most but i use that for my salt water aquarium tons of waste though so i dont use it at all anymore. i am pretty sure one of my supplements contains both cal and mag but not in huge dosages. the other issue is this isn't my first time using these lights or growing environments really as well as using tap water.

this is why if it was a cal/mag issue wouldn't that basically mean she is very hungry plant in general? i have read some strains feed a lot more then others. i dont think i will plan to buy any cal/mag though not this late into the grow she should be on week 5 of flowering already if i am correct.

i use the entire line of AN though excluding turantula, bud ignite, and 1 more which your supposed to use at the very begging of the grow along with turantula and voodoo juice. i run sensi grow/bloom instead of conessiure or the 3 stage gorilla one.
 

70's natureboy

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i use the entire line of AN though excluding turantula, bud ignite, and 1 more which your supposed to use at the very begging of the grow along with turantula and voodoo juice. i run sensi grow/bloom instead of conessiure or the 3 stage gorilla one.
I don't see how you can be having a problem if you are using the entire line of nutes. :roll:

Live and learn and try to do better next time. That's what we all do at one time or another.
 

Lethidox

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I don't see how you can be having a problem if you are using the entire line of nutes. :roll:

Live and learn and try to do better next time. That's what we all do at one time or another.
yea exactly this my 2nd or 3rd run using AN line as well i could understand if it was a PH issue since i don't PH my water anymore but even when i did it wasn't extremely high or low after adding the nutes and i used tap from same source outside in the garage and i PH'd our rain water just out of curiosity no much difference.

that is why i think she is hungry possibly if i fed normally as i did maybe i could of avoided this issues but even so i didn't expect her to be this damn hungry like right when the buds started forming then it just went rapid after that which is the odd part during the veg and early flowering stages pre flower, first couple weeks she was fine. what i can also assume which idk if it is true or not is because my room is so dusty naturally ( my room is located in our backyard tons of breeze but dust builds up very fast. same with my old room it's 1 door down but same area. ) maybe the little holes on the leaves getting plugged up from the dust.
 

Lethidox

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I actually think it’s somewhere between magnesium and manganese, like an imbalance. It looks like a couple things.
WHELP... i found the issue matter of fact it is SOME sort of bug i have never seen this type but they are almost microscopic maybe you guys knows exactly what they are. i see a BUNCH of these mfers possibly THOUSANDS all over the plant couple hundred possibly on just the leaves i already sprayed onces as well so i figured they fucking die. will upload later on today in journal phone about to die though
I don't see how you can be having a problem if you are using the entire line of nutes. :roll:

Live and learn and try to do better next time. That's what we all do at one time or another.
 

Lethidox

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September 8

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best pic i could take phone was about to die but let me know what you guys think those bugs are there are a SHIT LOAD of them on 1 leaf. plants look wet cause i sprayed her HEAVY this is the 3rd spray already removed a bunch of dead leaves the damage is getting REALLY bad. if it continues im going to probably harvest her early.

the only thing i can think of on how i got these bugs tbh is my compost. i used it fresh i didn't age it or dry it out which is usually a no no to begin with my compost has a LOT of bugs in it besides the worms as well.

i have had aphids MANY times mainly from outdoor grows. oh fuck i just forgot i had my dads plants in here as well so yea possibly could of hitched on his plants. i sprayed them only once then 1 time again when i first started seeing the damage. these bugs seem to only hang out on the top of the leaves not under them as well as i can barely see them with my eyes on the top they look like grey specs kind of like trichomes but on the underside i see nothing and the damage is primarily focused directly at the top of the leaves it seems i look under and it looks fairly healthy but the top part is all fucked.

my guess is some tiny species of aphids or maybe.. mealy bugs? if aphids though i'd assume i'd see ants and i dont. also with the aphids i'd assume theyd be big from feasting these bugs are rather tiny as i stated pretty much microscopic

the buds i felt when trying to take a pic of the trichomes they are sticky as FUCK the stickiest buds i've every grown thus far. my strawberry cough i grew before this was sticky but this beats that one.

i see 1 actual spider in my tent on the bottom of the pot making webs outside of that NO webbing so i doubt spider mites. looked up some photo's it somewhat looks like thrips to me

Watered 1gal and started giving some silicone again to get rid of the bugs possibly. since i stopped for a while now. shit load of popcorn buds below the net will be interesting to weight after i chop.

SEPTEMBER 12/13 will be Day 1 of week 6 in flower according to my standards. i will TRY to run them until week 8 to finish strong but if it gets worse i will push them as much as i can. based on trichome colors they are still looking clear for the most part pistils still fairly white and still looks of room to plump up as well since i won't be smoking her idgaf about appearance at the end as much but i still want to grow it as if i were selling it to a customer as i do have standards as well despite im just growing for fun
 

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Lethidox

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September 9

not sure if the spray helped or what bunch of dying leaves coming off as usual. seems to have slowed down possibly but wont know until maybe tomorrow. gave 1gal water slowly it is getting cooler but i think it might begin to get hot again feels less humid for sure temp is at 82 right now usually it's around 86-89 in august
 

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Lethidox

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September 17

going to have to chop SOON. ENTIRE plant is getting fucked BIG TIME. all the lower buds are looking diseased/dried out, all the lower fan leaves are now DEAD. very little fan leaves left at the surface. i am not entirely sure what is going on 3rd time i've sprayed but still going rapidly.

i assume 2 things at this point.

1. not bugs
2. maybe.. plant was done a long time ago ( HIGHLY doubt it ) but i didn't pull it early. i doubt it because she is still bulking up nicely.

i am just afraid that she will rot on the nugs that matter most to me all the rotting shit on the bottom is nothing all just popcorn but i wouldn't smoke it or make butter out of it i mean it looks pretty damn bad. if you look at the fan leaves that are dead all brown and crispy that is what the buds look like. my dad has the exact same issue outside when he grows so a 3rd possibly thing i can assume is it's a heat/humidity issue i've grown a few plants outside and so has he they've turned out fairly decent but a lot of his plants see this issue at a young age. they dry up and get crispy.
 

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Lethidox

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September 21

Chopped her down after 3 days of darkness just to see what it would look like but mostly to conserve energy. hung her up whole tent is dirty af but going to dismantle it for now since im prolly not going to continue growing cannabis and dabble with outdoor growing for a while. wont be selling my equipment just putting it in the closet for a few months too busy with other things to have an indoor grow going on atm.

towel under the pot that i put is eaten up nothing is left of it. roots grew right into it but when i look under the pot it's bare nothing but roots literally no sign of the towel.

as for the buds they look mediocre imo. smells really good and looks nice but quality wise overall i'd say 4/10 ot 5/10. everything below the net as said multiple times is popcorn buds above the net is fine outside of the little bug/w.e. issue that was. buds smell amazing, they look really nice from my past grows very fat and nice trichomes imo. im going to take a pic later on down the line after it's dried up got it hung in my tent with just the exhaust fan running on blast due to lack of air movement in general.
 

70's natureboy

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Those buds still got pretty fat and chunky after all the abuse they have been through. You can see the potential there. Too bad you didn't keep a clone of it. I think PC rally needs good light to get really fat and hard buds.
 
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