Pine Trees Turning Yellow

rowlman

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Hi,
This is my 1st fall in my new home. I noticed this week that all the pine trees out back have turned yellow? I thought these things stayed green all year. They are all out in the woods, all different sizes, so it's not just s few trees,...looks kinda cool, the needles are changing along with the leaves on the other trees, but is this normal??
Thanks for any input
 

acidbox420

Active Member
I dont think its normal but then again theres alot of differnt kind of pine trees but i think all pines are evergreens
 

rowlman

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maybe its some sourt of nute deff..............fertilize them bitches.........
..lol...it's kinda like 2-3 acers of trees...not little back yard trees, more like a small forest...but in all my life I have never seen Pine trees turn yellow...even dead ones go from green to brown, but yellow??..idk
 

rowlman

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Beetles and other bugs can kill trees too.

Peace
...they really don't look like they are dieing...more like changing colors like the other trees this time of the year. In fact, they ARE changing colors along with the other tree leafs...strange.
 

lowrider2000

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well im in florida i have seen them turn yellow...........is it the old branches? or all of them ? ..........i would try to give one plant some fert see how it dose if it fixes it you know what is wrong.......when you got a bunch of palm trees they all use the same nutes out the soil so that may be it........it could also be a bug but 2-3 acres worth of bugz is allot lol........well i guess 2-3 acres worth of fert is allot as well lol you got a pic
 

lowrider2000

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Lethal Yellowing Lethal yellowing is a disease first noticed in the Caribbean region of North America about 100 years ago. However, it was not until the 1950s and a devastating outbreak in Jamaica and the Florida Keys that the economic consequences of lethal yellowing were recognized and intensive research begun. More recently, the disease has spread to other areas of Florida and into Texas. There is no cure for lethal yellowing although it can be controlled in valuable trees with regular injections (four times annually) of
oxytetracycline. The good news is that palms native to Florida are generally resistant to this disease.

Symptoms
Lethal yellowing gets its name from the yellowing and drooping of palm fronds beginning with the lower fronds and advancing up through the crown. The disease characteristically has the following progression:

1. Coconuts, mature and immature, begin to drop from coconut palms and the fruit begin to drop from other varieties, a process called ‘shelling’.

2. Flower stalks (inflorescences) begin to blacken.

3. Palm fronds start to yellow (or, in the case of some species, turn greyish-brown), beginning with the older, lower fronds and progressing up through the crown.

4. The spear leaf collapses and the bud dies. By the time that this happens, the tree is already dead.

5. The entire crown falls from the tree leaving a forlorn ‘telephone pole’ stalk.

Unless treated, the tree dies within three to six months of the first symptom.

The Cause
The cause of lethal yellowing is believed to be a bacteria-like organism called a phytoplasma. Phytoplasmas are not yet well understood but, like bacteria, they can be controlled with antibiotics, in this case, oxytetracycline.

The Spread of the Disease
While there is not, as yet, definitive proof, the lethal yellowing micro-organism is most likely spread by an insect, the planthopper (myndus crudus). Again, research is continuing into the way in which this insect spreads the disease. Tests have demonstrated
that insecticides can slow the spread of planthoppers and, with them, lethal yellowing. However, large-scale spraying using currently available chemicals is ecologically damaging and not economically viable. Another approach may be to develop a
groundcover that discourages the insect, as young planthoppers feed on common grasses, but there have been no concrete results so far.

What To Do
There is to date no cure for lethal yellowing. Quarterly injections of oxytetracycline can keep the disease in check and this may be an option for extremely valuable residential landscape palms. Check with your local tree care specialist for advice regarding the cost
and procedure in your area. The best option in combating lethal yellowing is to plant palms resistant to the disease.

Popular Native Palms Resistant to Lethal Yellowing
Cabbage Palmetto (Sabal palmetto)
Royal Palm (Roystonea regia)
Paurotis Palm (Acoelorraphe wrightii)
Florida Thatch Palm (Thrinax radiata)
Key Thatch Palm (T. morrisii)

Common Imported Palms Resistant to Lethal Yellowing
Alexandra Palm (Archontophoenix alexandrae)
Carpentaria Palm (Carpentaria acuminata)
Yellow Cane Palm (Chrysalidocarpus lutescens)
Pygmy Date Palm (Phoenix roebelenii)
MacArthur Palm (Ptychosperma macarthurii)
Solitaire Palm (Ptychosperma elegans)
Mexican Washingtonia (Washingtonia robusta)
Foxtail Palm (Wodyetia bifurcata)
Queen Palm (Syagrus romanzoffianum)
 

lowrider2000

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opps lol i did all that reserch for nothing lol oh well i have some palm trees and i learned somthing new ............i googled pine trees yellow and it said it may be a fungus
 

rowlman

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opps lol i did all that reserch for nothing lol oh well i have some palm trees and i learned somthing new ............i googled pine trees yellow and it said it may be a fungus
...lol...thanks for the research time...I actually read it all anyways...no Palms here in Michigan, but still good info...thanks
 

Jack in the Bud

Active Member
rowlman,

Are you sure they're not Tamarack Larch trees? From a distances they look just like a regular pine and they turn yellow in the fall.



Jack
 

rowlman

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You know what...I think you may be right.
Do the Larch trees have needles?.
I'm going to look it up now, thanks Jack.
Peace
 

Carl Spackler

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In all likelihood they are common Eastern White Pines or Loblolly Pines. Pines trees can cast needles for a variety of reasons and are way too many to explain here but the most common cause is a natural part of their life cycle. The needles do not have a infinite life span and are sometimes cast in the spring or the fall. Unless the trees are totally brown from the top of the trunk down I wouldn't sweat it.
 

rowlman

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rowlman,

Are you sure they're not Tamarack Larch trees? From a distances they look just like a regular pine and they turn yellow in the fall.



Jack
I haven't had a chance to replace my camera yet, so I appoligize for no pics.
It's hard to tell it that pic....are those needles or leaves? My trees are shaped just like pine trees...if fact I thought I'd be getting one from out there for X-mas...but not yellow..lol.
Thanks again
 

acidbox420

Active Member
I haven't had a chance to replace my camera yet, so I appoligize for no pics.
It's hard to tell it that pic....are those needles or leaves? My trees are shaped just like pine trees...if fact I thought I'd be getting one from out there for X-mas...but not yellow..lol.
Thanks again
tamarack got needle like things just do a google image search
 

Jack in the Bud

Active Member
I haven't had a chance to replace my camera yet, so I appoligize for no pics.
It's hard to tell it that pic....are those needles or leaves? My trees are shaped just like pine trees...if fact I thought I'd be getting one from out there for X-mas...but not yellow..lol.
Thanks again
rowlman,

Now that I see you're in MI I'd almost gaurantee that you're looking at Tamarack trees.

They have both short needles (like a regular pine) and small leaves. They also produce a small cone. Check Wiki (where I got that picture) and you'll see a close up picture of a branch. Then you can walk out to them and compare.

I didn't learn about them until several years back when I went to Sakhalin Island for a job. While being drivin across the island I noticed what I thought at first were bunches of sick pine trees. When I asked if they had some kind of disease/insect attacking their trees I was told that was normal and that it happened every fall. I don't remember what the Russian name they called them was but some one else in the group said they thought they were "Tamarack" trees.

I was curious about this because where I live we have the Western Pine Beetle killing off the pine trees. Whole mountain sides are brown from the damage they've done. They don't go thru a yellow stage when they're dieing though. They pretty much go from green to brown over the course of one or two Summers.

Jack
 
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