photo's and auto's in the same tent?

incogneato420

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I just sprouted an auto to run along side my 4 other photoperiod strains. I'm curious to see what people think about running them together
 

Walterwhiter

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I've been advised not by a couple of experienced growers. Especially in a tent setting try to stick to identical or similar phenos. You will have a hard time keeping an even canopy aka properly using your light
 

incogneato420

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I've been advised not by a couple of experienced growers. Especially in a tent setting try to stick to identical or similar phenos. You will have a hard time keeping an even canopy aka properly using your light
That's the first thing I thought of, after I already popped it lol.
 

bryan oconner

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i did auto and photoes . under the same light . the issue you will . the photos like 12/12 the auto like 18 or 24. so the auto will flower very well under the 12/12 but will not give you any return . next to nothing
 

incogneato420

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I've done it when testing auto's.....
NO big deal at all.
The only thing was the auto's were shorter and that's your concern right?
Simple solution! Put the auto's on stands ,buckets turned upside down etc, etc!
Just put them on something to raise them up to the photo's canopy..
Will flipping them to 12/12 affect their output? I figure it wouldn't be a problem managing an even canopy like you described.
 

trippytrappy

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ive got a auto in with photo`s , wouldnt bother unless u can take auto out just before light out on 12/12 . i just done experiment to see how it went , more than likely get a oz or just over from the auto
 

Dr. Who

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EASY: I do it often, so long come 12x12 the autos are done otherwise you my be cutting the autos back on quality
Yea it will give you less yeild. Keep 18 on if you can.
@incogneato420

As a plant, it's still the same as a photo in all respects, except the plant will flower on it's own. It does not use circadian rhythm by light to start to flower.....
Your NOT reducing yields by running them 12/12 during their blooming! If you have a veg area - run them in there! If not - don't worry about it! Your not going to "loose" enough "yield" by running at 18/6 over 12/12 to matter! 24/0 is just stupid! Waste of money!

You all have to stop using "Logic" to create conclusions.....The plant works by it's own natural rules..
 

shhhmokey

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@incogneato420

As a plant, it's still the same as a photo in all respects, except the plant will flower on it's own. It does not use circadian rhythm by light to start to flower.....
Your NOT reducing yields by running them 12/12 during their blooming! If you have a veg area - run them in there! If not - don't worry about it! Your not going to "loose" enough "yield" by running at 18/6 over 12/12 to matter! 24/0 is just stupid! Waste of money!

You all have to stop using "Logic" to create conclusions.....The plant works by it's own natural rules..
Thats like saying a photo wont lose yeild if you put them under 6/18...instead of 12/12... an auto needs the light... i agree that 24hr is a waste... but so is 12/12 for an auto IMO.
 

Dr. Who

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Thats like saying a photo wont lose yeild if you put them under 6/18...instead of 12/12... an auto needs the light... i agree that 24hr is a waste... but so is 12/12 for an auto IMO.
You just don't "get it" man!

No one put any more "needing the light" into an Auto! You can't DO that in breeding plants!
12/12 will not make you loose any "significant" amount of yield!
I've done plenty of playing with them when they came out and with some different grow methods too.. I never found a viable reason to run them any more then 14/10 and no reasonable loss at 12/12...vs even a 24/0!

Hell ya know what? Got asked to join the Skywalker Auto comparative grow. I plan on starting it in 4 weeks....I'll be running plants under 3 differing BLOOM lighting times to show the "truth" on exactly this issue! In the end we'll look at weights from 1 at 24/0, 2 at 18/6 and 2 at 14/10. I will weight the yields of each plant and list them. You can take the results from there!

Sound good?
 

Uberknot

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You just don't "get it" man!

No one put any more "needing the light" into an Auto! You can't DO that in breeding plants!
12/12 will not make you loose any "significant" amount of yield!
I've done plenty of playing with them when they came out and with some different grow methods too.. I never found a viable reason to run them any more then 14/10 and no reasonable loss at 12/12...vs even a 24/0!

Hell ya know what? Got asked to join the Skywalker Auto comparative grow. I plan on starting it in 4 weeks....I'll be running plants under 3 differing BLOOM lighting times to show the "truth" on exactly this issue! In the end we'll look at weights from 1 at 24/0, 2 at 18/6 and 2 at 14/10. I will weight the yields of each plant and list them. You can take the results from there!

Sound good?
What I think you'll find is the ones in less light stretch more looking for light.
The ones in more light make more bud weight if you harvest at the same time.

It may be the 24 hour finishes faster than a 12/12 as well.

Need 2 at 24 if you are going to be fair about it.

Make sure to record plant sizes/height as well throughout grow.

How many phenos in the strain that can happen.

I think 2 at 24/0 and 3 at 12/12 would show something.

More light equal more use of nutrients etc...

What I have found is they do not like straight 24/7 strong ( 70k+ lux ) light because that's not what they get.

But yeah it'll be interesting to see this strain and what is has in it when you grow it out.
 
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incogneato420

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You just don't "get it" man!

No one put any more "needing the light" into an Auto! You can't DO that in breeding plants!
12/12 will not make you loose any "significant" amount of yield!
I've done plenty of playing with them when they came out and with some different grow methods too.. I never found a viable reason to run them any more then 14/10 and no reasonable loss at 12/12...vs even a 24/0!

Hell ya know what? Got asked to join the Skywalker Auto comparative grow. I plan on starting it in 4 weeks....I'll be running plants under 3 differing BLOOM lighting times to show the "truth" on exactly this issue! In the end we'll look at weights from 1 at 24/0, 2 at 18/6 and 2 at 14/10. I will weight the yields of each plant and list them. You can take the results from there!

Sound good?
Thanks for checking in, I've seen you around the boards and definitely respect your opinion.. It would be cool to see the results from that comparative grow. You gonna post it up?
 

incogneato420

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What I think you'll find is the ones in less light stretch more looking for light.
The ones in more light make more bud weight if you harvest at the same time.

It may be the 24 hour finishes faster than a 12/12 as well.

Need 2 at 24 if you are going to be fair about it.

Make sure to record plant sizes/height as well throughout grow.

How many phenos in the strain that can happen.

I think 2 at 24/0 and 3 at 12/12 would show something.

More light equal more use of nutrients etc...

What I have found is they do not like straight 24/7 strong ( 70k+ lux ) light because that's not what they get.

But yeah it'll be interesting to see this strain and what is has in it when you grow it out.
I'm thinking you're right on the money
 
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