PH, Humidity, Climate, ???

quantum

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I have two White Widow sisters
One goes into permanent wilt at two weeks 12/12 but still makes the sweetest smelling bud, but only an once per plant. I didn’t bother cloning her last round.
One of them is special. She is almost perfect. There is this that is driving me nuts.
She goes into heavy resin production at four weeks and starts dropping fan leaves. They start yellowing. some will almost turn whit yet still be erect as if it were healthy. fan leaves leaving at a rate of four or five per week. It starts on the trunk and works its way up the branches.
I am having a really hard time controlling the night time humidity. I have done everything short of adding a heater to my room at my AC intake. The humidity is running 80% at night and 50% day. Mole Spores are under control. After last run I sterilized kind of, sealed my area and added a micron filter to the intake.

Night temp 68F - 74F
Day temp 76F - 81F

another thing is that I feel like im having ph issues. I am growing in COCO PERLTE 80/20 using House & Garden full line.

I hand water.
My initial ph = 9
at 2.5 ml. GET DOWN per gallon ph = 5.8

Sit one night with pump, no pump, covered, it doesn’t matter.
Ph = 9

Is it possible that when I give them a three day supply of water that the ph is going to 9 within twenty-four hours and experiencing a terrible ph fluctuation.
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GoldenGanja13

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Wow thats alot to deal with. I am soil but here's where I can help you out...
Leave you exhaust on at night, lowers the humidity, I have same problem in veg when lights out for 6hrs.
Ph I have noticed my ph fluxuates (20 gallon buckets x 5) when the heat goes highs or lows. I suggest you get in there witha green light (I use party bulbs from dollar store) and check your ph 1/2 hr before lights on. Keep it at 6.5 like always, so be diligent before lights on.
I would think that all your problems with fan leaves drooping is the humidity is not allowing them to sweat out moisture and the fans droping could be a result of high humidity too, or just simpley because they are not uptaking any Nitrogen. I would try Amino Aid once a week. Its a root organic product. Also the mold, burn sulpher (hydro store).
 

quantum

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That makes a lot of sense.
The pheno that is dropping i acquired after already having the pheno that is drooping. "say that five times fast"
the drooping pheno would fair fine on water alon with little nutes.

when i first run of the dropping pheno, i treated it like the drooping pheno as far as nutes go, and the leaves were very yellow untill i incresed the nutes fairly strong.

Im going to post a pic. there is no burn im on fith week and just started my top booster on the dropping pheno. Shee finishes off nice in 8-9

Drooping pheno 10-11
 

GoldenGanja13

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If you get around to a hydro shop any time soon, look up that amino aid. Wonderful stuff. It helps the roots uptake Nitrogen. That can be helpful in the middle of flowering.
 

quantum

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If you get around to a hydro shop any time soon, look up that amino aid. Wonderful stuff. It helps the roots uptake Nitrogen. That can be helpful in the middle of flowering.

I'm going to check that out. I'm using Flora Blend Vegan compost tea on top of my nute regime. I also use two enzyme formulas from house and garden. I read about the roots line of additives earlier, and have been compteplating incorparating some of thier line for some time.
 

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quantum

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This is the one that is yellowing and dropping the leaves. above left to right the droopy pheno, Droppy cola droppy worst looking fan.
 

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GoldenGanja13

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Plant is looking good in picture. I would say if the buds are lacking strength it must be a light issue. Besides other discussed.
Roots organic also has a product called Extreme Serene. Its great for foilage feeding in veg and adding to nutes once a week in flower. It has kelp in it. Kelp is great for veg.
 

quantum

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i have a 1k MH with a home made reflector and 400MH. I know i need more light, and now that you mention it; lighting is probably my largest problem. I wish I had HPS, but work is slack and this produces all i can smoke. I just want the best smoke is the only reason I cold think to increase light or change spectrum. Until I know I have work; this light will be lucky to stay on.
 

GoldenGanja13

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i have a 1k MH with a home made reflector and 400MH. I know i need more light, and now that you mention it; lighting is probably my largest problem. I wish I had HPS, but work is slack and this produces all i can smoke. I just want the best smoke is the only reason I cold think to increase light or change spectrum. Until I know I have work; this light will be lucky to stay on.
I feel yeah. I was growing for a guy out at his place, then it got too big for my likeing so I got my Med Card and started up in my own home.
My veg setup alone was just under $700. and I still have nothing for my flower set up which will be a 600 hps. I figure at least $600.
I am in no rush to buy the set up, I veg for 3 months on average. Clones 2 months.
Money is hard to come buy and growing is a gamble sometimes. I mean a few missed mistakes can cost a whole garden.
Once you are able to get some hps for bloom your buds will be Tight.
 
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