Personal experiences using LED in general and also Far Red - Faster Finishing Times.

bleaching is whitish leaves not brown and curled.....thats all im saying

getogrow said:

yes led,

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Which one?

getogrow said:

what healthy and finished should look like....

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What led are you using? I gotta admit that's one of the finer examples I've seen.

I think its possible there was some lockout going on with a high Ph at one point. It's something I'll keep a better eye on.

getogrow said:

bleaching is NEVER gonna happen under no dam leds.

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What prevents it?

Thegermling said:

I recently took clones off a two week flowering plant. I knew that it would take awhile for these cuts to revert the hormones back to veg under a 24/0 schedule to initiate root production. It does take awhile.

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i mean it could have its applications. if you want your clones six weeks from now with 20 shoots each

seems that for most people taking a vigorous shoot and getting it to grow roots in 1-2 weeks without losing its vigor works better

getogrow said:

you think his is overfed or something ? No , this is how ANY PLANT UNDER ANY LIGHT should look when done. some hydro guys think its better quality if its yellowing towards the end. they are wrong. yours is not yellowing , ITS EATING ITSELF, bleaching is NEVER gonna happen under no dam leds. it litterally looks like you started flushing at about 30 days after the flip.

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Um I think you have the wrong person.. The post you quoted is my grow not the OP... It's the OP's grow I said look's hungry my pic was to show what they should look like..

Thegermling said:

Dude, imagine if we got our hands on that? Would it finish in 35 days with far red?

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theres plenty of 45-50 day strains. they dont yield much and are almost always indo dominant

agreed ops stuff looks hungry. when i find myself in that position there is not much you can do. when they finish early they are hard to flush

id rather run without any yellowing up until last week or so, cut nutes in half for 3-5 days then pure water for a week. i used to push harder into yellow leaves but now basically if i can get the first signs of fade on fan leaves when i take the tops, and then have them be full yellow when i take the mids and bottoms a week later, it seems to work well without chemmy taste

imo they need to still have enough (but just enough) vigor to clear themselves. if i see deficiencies before ripening, its damn hard to correct that because a shot of nutes will at best stimulate new flowers and mess up your ripening, at worst not absorb it at all and make your buds chemmy

1212ham said:

What prevents it?

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Feeding them.

a mongo frog said:

Which one?

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dont recall what kind. a cheapo from ebay.

delstele said:

Um I think you have the wrong person.. The post you quoted is my grow not the OP... It's the OP's grow I said look's hungry my pic was to show what they should look like..

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i quoted your pics asking if anyone thought yours were starving. yours is how ANY PLANT UNDER ANY LIGHT should finish.

I agree with cobkits I've had several different 45 day strains, and they always tend to be smaller yeilders. Potent,but just not beefy enough to be cost effective.(2 oz per plant) as opposed to 60 day plants pulling 4-5 oz. I just switched from hps to leds, and I noticed my plants are shorter,frostier,and alot more colorful. An icecream cake I've been running almost 2 years finally started purpling up. Also I just added some 660nm and some infared. so I'll have an update on using ir to put em to sleep in a couple months.

toaster struedel said:

I've had several different 45 day strains, and they always tend to be smaller yeilders

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45days will be less than 50 days will be less than 60 days.... etc.. you are paying for the difference, in power and time though. I just run 3000k raw, I couldn't be arsed with funny spectrum, I'll just add more strips if I want more light.

getogrow said:

dont recall what kind. a cheapo from ebay.


i quoted your pics asking if anyone thought yours were starving. yours is how ANY PLANT UNDER ANY LIGHT should finish.

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Thanks, just misunderstood you. I think mine in that pic look a bit hungry as well but I like to err on the side of less = more. I grow with the KISS rule that plant will tell me what I needs I just need to know what to look for... No dis on anyone here jus trying to help...

my heaviest yielder used to be a 50 day. Genetics are everything.

I'm thinkin that SS I posted the pic of will be done around 50-60 days. That's pretty quick in my book..

Out door plants start flower well before the outside lighting hits 12/12. Hell my outdoors finish a week or 2 after the fall solstice.
Properly fading plants.

What ppms do you feed at? what do you start at and what do you end at?

I start at 1200 and goto 1600. I give pure water for last 7-10 days but don't get fading like this. I use co2.

jarvild said:

Out door plants start flower well before the outside lighting hits 12/12. Hell my outdoors finish a week or 2 after the fall solstice.
Properly fading plants.
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Very nice bro

We are comparing different genetics with different finishing times, colors all that come into play. If can dial a strain in that is my goal. I try to get the best out of the genetics I'm dealing with at the time...