Perpetual Grow - Are You Ready?

bigsteve

Well-Known Member
With a lot of spare time I decided a perpetual grow is the way to go. I liked the idea of not having to wait
"forever" for a crop to mature. The only answer I saw was a grow where you are continuosly harvesting.
There is quite a bit to consider when deciding if a perpetual grow is for you. I thought I'd jot down some of
my experiences in hope others can use the info.

We can propogate reef 2 ways, cloning or by seed. I went the cloning route as I could see the expense of buying
new beans weekly was costly. My first mistake here was thinking that a cloning operation meant I was done buying seeds.
Wrong. Even if your cloning is aces, there will be times when you need or want to introduce a new strain into your mix.
It could be a bad run with the clone domes, a catastrophic disease epidemic or just an electrical outage that affects your grow.
You cannot depend 100% on a cloning operation to fully supply all the new plants you need to feed a perpetual grow. Freebies
from Attitude come in handy to supplement my cloning.

Space is a major consideration. You have to have 2 rooms going at the minimum. I know there are guys out there with everything
stuffed in one room with blankets and timers and cords all over the place. Those guys wish they were using more than one room.
I've discovered that I need about 4 square feet of floorspace for flowering for every square foot of veg space. My veg room is actually half a closet
and 24 square feet. Flowering room is 8 x 8 feet with a 1000W bulb. My 3 clone domes sit on shelves in another closet. I am averaging about 2+
plants a week to harvest, so look at my square footage and you can judge how much room you need for your grow.

Timing is one of the biggest hassles with a perpetual grow. The clone room feeds the veg room which feeds the flowering room. Not only
do I have to have rooted clones or started seedlings every week, I have to have a place to put them in the veg room. Same dynamic
going from veg to flower. Eventually I came to see the constant moving of pots as a sort of choreography. Movement has to flow from
room to room in a planned maneuver. So I keep a log book in each room documenting what happens every day. I note plant height through the veg time
so I know how much they will stretch during flowering. Notes are also necessary if you like to experiment like me. With 4 clones coming into the veg room
I might decide to FIM 2 of them and not the others. A great way to see which strains benefit from manipulation. Of course that means that each plant
needs to be individualted. That means an individual number for each plant so you can keep them straight. A trio of clones going into dirt today might be
noted as GB 11-11 B. Tells me the strain is GigaBud, went into dirt on 11-11 and is the second plant in that series. I'm always trying some new nute or
tweaking my grow and good record keeping is essential. The last think I'll mention about time is -- you'll need a lot of it. I usually transplant each plant twice
and there is always some TP'ing or rearranging needed. Trust me there is more time required than you would guess. Plan accordingly.

Typing is not my strong suit so I'll sign off here. There's a ton more stuff to consider when pondering to perpetual or not. PM me if you have any specific
questions about doing a perpetual grow in dirt.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 

bigsteve

Well-Known Member
"Hi Steve,what kind of yields are you getting from the plants you harvest in your perpetual?"

My yields are largely a factor of pot size. When I'm experimenting with a bunch of clones I'll grow them out in tiny
7-inch pots. Those plants dry in the 15-20 gram territory. Most are grown in 3-gallon pots and yield 1-2 oz/per.
I try to remember that speed and quantity are related. Means that being over-eager and harvesting early will
also cost you in yield. Buds add a lot of their final weight their last 7-10 days at 12/12. The 5 GigaBud now flowering
will yield 1 1/2 - 2/per first time and I expect 2-3/per on the re-grows. Nice to dry near a full LB from 5 indoor plants, eh?

Good luck, BigSteve.
 

superstoner1

Well-Known Member
perpetual is the way to go. i harvest 12-14 plants every three weeks, it spreads the work out but it is a lot of work and very important to stay on schedule. knowing your strains is a big factor.
 

bigsteve

Well-Known Member
"knowing your strains is a big factor"
That's exactly why I had such good luck with the Kushage from T H Seeds. Clones were all rooted by day 8 in the dome
so they had the predictability you really need to run a perpetual grow smoothly.

When I first got my grow going I was in a hurry all the time so I grew out 2-5 plants a week in tiny 3-quart pots. But I got
tired of having 2 dozen little pots to work around. Now I'm using bigger pots and vegging longer so I have fewer but larger plants
flowering. One time I had 12 new strains (to me) starting at the same time. I had accumulated a lot of Attitude freebies and got
the bright idea to grow them all out at once. Won't be doing that again.

BigSteve.
 

Travis9226

Active Member
I have my girls in 6 stages. Each stage lasts three weeks. Stage 1: I take clones from stage 3 plants. After the clones are in my aero cloner for three weeks from the day I cut them. Stage 2: I transplant my girls into 1 gallon pots and they stay there for another three weeks. Stage 3: the plants are still in veg for three more weeks. Right before they go into flower I take clones. Stage 4: I transplant into 5 gallon buckets and are placed into flower. Stage 5: when the girls reach stage five they have been in flower for three weeks and most stretch is done and they get "lollipopped". Stage 6: the girls have been in flower for 6 weeks and continue to get nutes for one more week/ week and a half before the flush.I harvest at the end of week 9 and the whole system starts over. This schedual could be updated to harvest every week very easily if your ruinning multiples of 3 in each stage. Hope this helps
 

bigsteve

Well-Known Member
Travis.
Sounds like you got your program down. I would rather speed everything up as most of my grows take around 10 weeks to finish from the time they
first get put into dirt. 3-4 weeks vegging and 5-6 weeks flowering. I prefer a smaller yield and a quicker turnover.

BigSteve.
 
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