Pandemic 2020

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printer

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If that's your position, then you are welcome to it, but I disagree with your assessment (at least the first part of it).
No airplane should ever leave the ground as they on occasion crash. Heck, we should not even allow cars, alcohol, sugar, salt, sex...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think you're confused. The new strain shows 1000x more viral load in infected individuals, but in reality it's only around 64% more transmissible than Alpha, which is 50% more transmissible than the original wild strain:
Whatever the exact R0 is of delta, it shot through the US population to 90% dominance in less than 60 days out pacing and replacing the contagious alpha variant and it put the USA back in the number 1 spot for cases globally.
 

printer

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You got a link to that? All I'm seeing is that "he has ordered the military to start taking steps toward making the COVID-19 vaccine mandatory for uniformed service members". I believe that he is doing this in prep for full licensure of the vaccines past the current EUA, which is anticipated in September.
No, not mandated yet. He asked the Pentagon to look into it.
 

injinji

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This is what I have been warning about from the start, many survivors will have their health permanently ruined.


Including ED. We should talk about living the rest of your life with a limp dick, and maybe folks will have 2nd thoughts about being stupid.
 

PJ Diaz

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No airplane should ever leave the ground as they on occasion crash. Heck, we should not even allow cars, alcohol, sugar, salt, sex...
This site needs an eye-roll emoji, because now you're just being ridiculous. The reality is that we won't know the implications of any of this for at least 5 years.
 

PJ Diaz

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Whatever the exact R0 is of delta, it shot through the US population to 90% dominance in less than 60 days out pacing and replacing the contagious alpha variant and it put the USA back in the number 1 spot for cases globally.
There is zero evidence to support your assertion that Delta is 1000x more transmissible than any other variant or the original wild strain itself. Feel free to attempt to prove me wrong.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There is zero evidence to support your assertion that Delta is 1000x more transmissible than any other variant or the original wild strain itself. Feel free to attempt to prove me wrong.
It's about 70% more transmissible than the alpha variant and I believe that was around 40% more contagious than the "wild strain". More contagious is far worse than more virulent. Delta has a high R0 is because it has a 1000 times more virus in the nose and throat than the alpha strain and a more effective spike protein.

The main point is it's dominated other strains in just 60 days and caused a 4th wave in a partly vaccinated country, America now has the highest case count globally, again. Without masks and NPIs in some low vax states viral infection will be (already is) exponential. When hospitals are overwhelmed shit shuts down, that's been the metric.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Death, maiming, limp dick and idiocy are some of the risks of covid. Some covidiots with complex jobs could have difficulty.

UK Study Shows Link Between COVID and Drop in Reasoning Abilities, Problem Solving (newsweek.com)

UK Study Shows Link Between COVID and Drop in Reasoning Abilities, Problem Solving

A study from the U.K. has found links between those who contracted COVID-19 and a decline in their reasoning and problem-solving abilities.

The study, published last week in The Lancet, examined people who had taken the Great British Intelligence Test (GBIT). The test measures different types of human mental abilities. Among 81,337 people who took the test between January and December 2020, 12,689 said they had contracted COVID-19.

Using data from the 81,337 test-takers, researchers first determined average test scores for people of different sexes, ethnicities, first languages, countries of residence, occupational statuses and earnings. They then compared those averages to the actual scores of people who had and hadn't contracted COVID-19. Of the test takers, 12,689 had contracted COVID-19.

The comparison found that those who had contracted COVID-19 had performed worse on different parts of the GBIT compared to those who hadn't contracted the virus. People who contracted COVID-19 performed worse on test tasks involving reasoning, problem-solving, spatial planning and target detection, CTV News reported.

People who contracted COVID-19 also performed worse if they experienced more severe viral symptoms. For example, those who had been placed on a ventilator experienced the biggest cognitive deficits, comparable to a seven-point drop in one's IQ (intelligence quotient), the study said.

"These results accord with reports of long-COVID, where 'brain fog', trouble concentrating and difficulty finding the correct words are common," researchers wrote. "Recovery from COVID-19 infection may be associated with particularly pronounced problems in aspects of higher cognitive or 'executive' function."

Researchers also said that such cognitive deficits can continue long after a person stops experiencing other COVID-19 symptoms. The deficits could last for weeks or months after a person initially contracts the virus.

However, researchers added that further research involving brain imaging data is needed. Only then can researchers properly determine whether COVID-19 causes neurobiological or psychological changes that affect intelligence.

The study's research team involved academics from Imperial College London, King's College and the Universities of Cambridge, Southampton and Chicago.
 

PJ Diaz

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It's about 70% more transmissible than the alpha variant and I believe that was around 40% more contagious than the "wild strain". More contagious is far worse than more virulent. Delta has a high R0 is because it has a 1000 times more virus in the nose and throat than the alpha strain and a more effective spike protein.
Your numbers are still off a bit, but I'm willing to accept those stats as "approximate". What you've just stated however is drastically different than your previous assertion of Delta being "over 1000 X more contagious than the wild strain".

Furthermore, there is some pretty good evidence that this variant may have come from a vaccinated person, due to its ability to work around the protection of the current vaccines. I mean it could just be coincidence, but it's seeming less and less likely with the big uptick of vaxxed people getting sick, hospitalized and dying from Delta specifically.
 

Plutonium

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Doesn't care about people contacting the virus? And they would even go to the extent of knocking on your door? What is really wrong with you?
They should knock on peoples door, to warn them about the dangers of McDonalds. That would actually be a worth while campaign to pursue!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Your numbers are still off a bit, but I'm willing to accept those stats as "approximate". What you've just stated however is drastically different than your previous assertion of Delta being "over 1000 X more contagious than the wild strain".

Furthermore, there is some pretty good evidence that this variant may have come from a vaccinated person, due to its ability to work around the protection of the current vaccines. I mean it could just be coincidence, but it's seeming less and less likely with the big uptick of vaxxed people getting sick, hospitalized and dying from Delta specifically.
The variant came from India where almost nobody was vaccinated.
 
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