Pandemic 2020

Here's a little clue, go back and look at the SARS studies, covid is just disguised in a milder early form.

captainmorgan said:

Yeah I've heard the speech that we accept 60,000 flu deaths each season, problem is there are 3,000 a day now,so let it rip is crazy.
Looking at the latest studies,some already peer reviewed, things are headed down a dark path, this is only getting started.

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We have all heard it from the antivaxxers, but once this wave blows through and the case numbers fall, the conversation will have to be had about what is acceptable. In some government quarters the call has already been made and annual deaths from flu and RSV are being considered as this thing becomes endemic and most likely seasonal.

captainmorgan said:

Here's a little clue, go back and look at the SARS studies, covid is just disguised in a milder early form.

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Sars was deadly when compared to covid sars2 and I'm glad we nipped it in the bud. Hopefully this doesn't mutate into something worse. Omicron is milder (hospitalizations and deaths) and does confer immunity to previous strains like delta. If omicron were as virulent as delta the hospitals would be completely fucked and both the vaxxed and unvaxxed appear to be getting off easier, though the vaxxed and previously infected do much better. There would be many more than 2000 deaths a day if it was as virulent as delta, considering the volume of infections.

Get back to me when things get ugly.

captainmorgan said:

Get back to me when things get ugly.

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They are ugly now and there are reports this wave has peaked in places, but don't look for a uniform recovery across America, but the experts figure it should be much better in a month.

If they don't come up with a new approach on the vaccine we are fucked. They've discovered that covid-19 can infect cells in more ways than just ACE2. Another little tid bit is covid causes damage to the bodies repair system all the way down the DNA level. Covid leaves behind waste like plaques that cause brain disease and others that cause cancer. Did you know long covid involves infection of the brain stem? I'm not getting this info from facebook or some conspiracy theory website. It comes from research papers, many of them peer reviewed. I think "let it rip" is a act of desperation that will only speed up mutation and make things worse,if that's possible.

Ok, I'm a tinfoil hat wearing crazy, enjoy the mild covid.

DIY-HP-LED said:

They are ugly now and there are reports this wave has peaked in places, but don't look for a uniform recovery across America, but the experts figure it should be much better in a month.

Yes, Omicron Is Loosening Its Hold. But the Pandemic Has Not Ended. (Published 2022)

With spotty immunity in the population and a churn of new variants, the coronavirus is likely to become a persistent but hopefully manageable threat.

www.nytimes.com

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Sooo I’m assuming you haven’t been licking door knobs yet? Didn’t you suggest I should go to a covid party a while back, and just get it over with? My daughters next door neighbour just died after contracting covid from his son (fully vaxxed) who works at a resort. Not sure about vax status or underlying health issues but still sad as fuck for the family .

captainmorgan said:

If they don't come up with a new approach on the vaccine we are fucked. They've discovered that covid-19 can infect cells in more ways than just ACE2. Another little tid bit is covid causes damage to the bodies repair system all the way down the DNA level. Covid leaves behind waste like plaques that cause brain disease and others that cause cancer. Did you know long covid involves infection of the brain stem? I'm not getting this info from facebook or some conspiracy theory website. It comes from research papers, many of them peer reviewed. I think "let it rip" is a act of desperation that will only speed up mutation and make things worse,if that's possible.

Ok, I'm a tinfoil hat wearing crazy, enjoy the mild covid.

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Your not crazy (unless you are in fact wearing an aluminum hat lol). This virus along with all of the other shit happening is like watching an end of times movie. A lot going on right now that scares the hell out of me for my kids future .

DIY's approach is puppies and rainbows for all, I'm the couk down the street.

Budley Doright said:

Your not crazy (unless you are in fact wearing an aluminum hat lol). This virus along with all of the other shit happening is like watching an end of times movie. A lot going on right now that scares the hell out of me for my kids future .

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I haven't posted things I've read because they sound like one of those movies.

captainmorgan said:

Yeah I've heard the speech that we accept 60,000 flu deaths each season, problem is there are 3,000 a day now,so let it rip is crazy.
Looking at the latest studies,some already peer reviewed, things are headed down a dark path, this is only getting started.

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the average over the last ten years is 34,000 influenza deaths a year...that's a lot, but covid has killed 875,000 over 2 years...that's an average of 437,000 a year, or 12.65 times as many....any time a magat tells you "it's just the flu"...point this out to them..

Those numbers are not real and the real ones are much higher,they aren't counting all the people that died later from complications of covid after their so called recovery.

Take 2020 when this started, they claim 352,000 died of covid but there were 470,000 excess deaths that year, what killed the other 118,000?

captainmorgan said:

Those numbers are not real and the real ones are much higher,they aren't counting all the people that died later from complications of covid after their so called recovery.

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It is a shame that the typical brainwashed death cultist stops listening at 'those numbers are not real', and assumes that it is because of whatever batshit crazy narrative they decided that they felt like buying.

Even if only 20% get long covid and die later from it, what will that number really look like.

Imagine if we were in a pre-Obamacare era and this hit. Everyone that had it would have a preexisting condition that they got insurance coverage pulled from them.

When I try to tell some friends about what covid can do to the human body, half of them don't like hearing it, not because they don't believe it, they just don't like thinking about bad things, it's human nature.

hanimmal said:

Imagine if we were in a pre-Obamacare era and this hit. Everyone that had it would have a preexisting condition that they got insurance coverage pulled from them.

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Insurance companies are already denying claims for covid claiming pre existing conditions with the covid comorbidities, if you're a fat diabetic they may turn you down because you had a pre-existing condition.

Budley Doright said:

Sooo I’m assuming you haven’t been licking door knobs yet? Didn’t you suggest I should go to a covid party a while back, and just get it over with? My daughters next door neighbour just died after contracting covid from his son (fully vaxxed) who works at a resort. Not sure about vax status or underlying health issues but still sad as fuck for the family .

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Sorry to hear about your loss and no doorknob licking for me, if fact I'm hunkered down and a week past my boost. My level of socialization will be determined by the state of the hospitals and level of community spread, it'll also be wearing a mask.

Covid is going to infect everybody sooner or later and I saw on the news that there are people deliberately trying to get infected after a boost, I'm not one of them and don't advocate it. I did mention it in jest though, but didn't think you would take it seriously, thinking about it, is not the same as promoting it. I believe it would be better to wait for it to come naturally, not to mention more ethical. The hospitals are full right now and there will soon be antiviral therapeutics, but it's not a question of if, but of when we will become infected, the experts appear to be in agreement on that.

Killed him only 12 hrs after he tested positive, that's some mild shit.

captainmorgan said:

If they don't come up with a new approach on the vaccine we are fucked. They've discovered that covid-19 can infect cells in more ways than just ACE2. Another little tid bit is covid causes damage to the bodies repair system all the way down the DNA level. Covid leaves behind waste like plaques that cause brain disease and others that cause cancer. Did you know long covid involves infection of the brain stem? I'm not getting this info from facebook or some conspiracy theory website. It comes from research papers, many of them peer reviewed. I think "let it rip" is a act of desperation that will only speed up mutation and make things worse,if that's possible.

Ok, I'm a tinfoil hat wearing crazy, enjoy the mild covid.

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You are correct in all you say, however we are up against a hard reality and sensible people are already doing all they can. Governments have little choice in the matter too and not much room to maneuver, since pandemic fatigue is widespread. In America I expect it will get worse than here, since we have a high vaxx rate, but that will just slow it down and spread the pain over a longer period of time, while lessening severe illness and death considerably.

Of course there will be long term maiming and disability from covid, however evidence indicates the severity of this is usually related to the severity of the illness. A milder case in a vaxxed person should produce less damage than a severe case, the sicker you get, the more damage done.

I'm not minimizing this plague or even taking an optimistic approach, just one based on the latest expert opinion and they've been giving those with a large grain of salt lately. It's just how I see things playing out over the next year, provided we don't get hit with a more contagious and virulent strain. A more virulent strain has to overcome one major hurdle though, it has to be more contagious than omicron to compete and survive.