Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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I do wish people would just shut up.

How on earth would this ceo know how effective his vaccine is against a bug that has yet to be closely tracked?

It's like asking an astrophysicist if he thinks a particular meteor will strike the earth and his professional response is "I hope not".

You could get the same answer on omicron vaccine resistance from me.
The two new antiviral medications don't target the mutated spike protein, but work by inhibiting replication, each using a different method, the kind of variant shouldn't make much difference to their efficacy. The same cannot be said for vaccines and antibody therapies though, we'll have to wait and see about those, both in the lab and in the real world, where the rubber meets the road.

He was talking about a treatment, not a vaccine, and he is probably right about the treatment, vaccines and antibodies are another matter.
 

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New study finds serious COVID-19 infection could be fatal even after recovery
A new study published in the journal Frontiers in Medicine suggests survivors of severe COVID-19 are more than twice as likely to die within a year after infection compared to patients who tested negative for the disease or experienced only mild symptoms.

Researchers from the University of Florida analyzed electronic health records of 13,638 patients who were tested for the virus using a PCR test in the Florida health system. Among those tested, 178 patients experienced severe symptoms and were hospitalized while 246 had only mild or moderate symptoms. The rest tested negative for the virus.

The study tracked patients over 12 months after they fully recovered and found those who had severe COVID-19 were 233 percent more likely to die.

“COVID-19 is even more devastating than we thought when only focusing on the initial episode. The downstream risk for the most severe outcome, death, is definitely high enough to hopefully make everyone rethink the impact of COVID-19,” Arch G. Mainous, a professor at the University of Florida and the study’s lead author, said in a statement.

Most deaths among severe COVID-19 survivors were not attributed to complications commonly associated with the disease, such as cardiovascular, respiratory and clotting problems. Just 20 percent of deaths were associated with these issues while the majority were the result of a variety of other conditions not typically associated with the coronavirus.

Surprisingly, the study found the increased risk of dying was greater for severe COVID-19 patients under 65.

Researchers said the study underscores the importance of vaccinations in reducing severe disease.

“These findings reinforce that the internal trauma of being sick enough to be hospitalized with COVID-19 has a big consequence for people’s health. This is a huge complication of COVID-19 that has not been shown before,” Mainous said.
 

captainmorgan

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Today the speculation on the new variant is leaning towards immunity escape and less infectious than delta. That's bad news if it turns out to be true, it means the vaccinated and recovered will be more at risk, glad I have a booster appointment set up.
 

captainmorgan

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Many of the people who survive severe covid die with in a year. I heard that when they do they are not listed as dying of covid, the real death toll is much higher than they say.


 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Many of the people who survive severe covid die with in a year. I heard that when they do they are are listed as dying of covid, the real death toll is much higher than they say.


Shit, that will add up to a lot of dead Trumpers by election day, if they keep refusing the vaccine, much less boosters. I figure the antiviral meds will still work, but they will be overwhelmed this winter, we will need to go back to masks and that's something else they don't like. Looks like from here on out it will mostly be a Darwinian event as kids are vaxxed over the next couple of months.

I suspect that vaccines will continue to offer protection, perhaps less with the new variant. A mild case of covid is better than a severe one, though I figure most infections cause some long term damage. Boost wear a mask and limit social contact, the rules are familiar by now, though tiresome, at least they increase your odds. New improved vaccines are on the way and in the pipeline, none will help the cursed though, those who fuck themselves by swallowing bullshit.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Unvaxxed 4.7x higher :(.
It might be time for an updated vaccine and booster with multiple strands of mRNA, generating multiple antibodies. We do have more tools to fight this than ever, from knowledge about how it spreads, to vaccines, antibodies, antiviral drugs and treatments. Good quality masks are in plentiful supply and easily available this time around. I also understand one of the antibody treatments can give 6 months immunity, better than a vaccine and that should help the immunocompromised. Now that most kids can be protected it seems to becoming more of a Darwinian thing lately with the antivaxxer and antimask crowd!
 

Budley Doright

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If Europe is anything to go by we might be in for a rough winter in Canada with covid, masks and social distancing again would be wise for the winter months. We might have a lot of cases but relatively few hospitalizations, for the vaxxed at least!
Europe! Our health unit numbers are higher than ever. Unit declared a community outbreak region which means they lost the ability to track it. But yes the saving grace here is the lower hospital admissions for the Vaxxed. The 3000 people plus parties 1.5 months ago at the University district started the trend ........ entitled assholes that have now put the elderly at a huge risk.
 

HGCC

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25% of new cases in kids. so yea, they are coming down with it.
I'm on the class whatsapp group for my kid. Man its always awkward, you get a notice from the school anytime your kid was in close contact with someone. So the email comes, then on the whatsapp "so did everyone get the email?" Then some kind of embarrassed parent is like "it was us." Everyone wishes them well.

A bunch of the kids went and got their first one last night. There was some sort of mobile clinic taking both appointments and walk ups so a bunch of them went. Getting my kid his second on Saturday, back to the mad house pediatrician office in the hood we go.
 
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