Pandemic 2020

hanimmal

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I had Covid-19, which theoretically should make me imune & prevent me from getting it again. I don't give a fuck what they say, I got a shot yesterday & will continue to wear a mask, forever if nessecery
Too many variants for me to feel really safe &
I definitely don't want to go thru this shit again.
I dont trust the immunity after being sick with it, so glad you got the shot and are keeping safe man. Best of luck, hopefully you don't have any lingering shit to deal with.
 

schuylaar

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I had Covid-19, which theoretically should make me imune & prevent me from getting it again. I don't give a fuck what they say, I got a shot yesterday & will continue to wear a mask, forever if nessecery
Too many variants for me to feel really safe &
I definitely don't want to go thru this shit again.
i'm putting my mask back on; the smells i'm smelling aren't good and i closed the elevator on someone for sneezing more than once..as i went up i could hear her sneeze like over and over; she didn't cover her nose..WTF? 90% is still 10% of no efficacy.
 

Jimdamick

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I'm American.
And our hospitals are and were empty.
Did you not see all the social media video's going around of all the hospital nurses dancing, all choreographed?
Here in the US we have nurses being layed off! In a pandemic?!
The entire "pandemic" is a hoax.

The virus may be real, but the hysteria that came up around it was all a fear campaign.
It was NEVER about the virus, it has ALWAYS been about the vaccine.
Think about that for a minute.
This has been PLANNED for a very long time.
They want everybody vaxxed, for reasons that are truly evil.

Instead of people running around calling others names and trying to enforce their low intelligence opinions, which do nothing but divide us, we all need to unite and fight this very real war we are in.
I've been on my back for almost 6 weeks as a result of getting Covid-19.
The facility I'm recovering in hàd 63 deaths as a result of Covid-19 & that's à fucking fact.
Y6u imply that you hàve a. high IQ.
You might but that won't stop you from being a fool, which you seem to be
 

Budzbuddha

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"I would, therefore, like to draw your attention to the high number of covid-19 vaccine-attributed deaths and ADRs that have been reported via the Yellow Card system between the 4th January 2021 and the 26th May 2021. In total, 1,253 deaths and 888,196 ADRs (256,224 individual reports) were reported during this period."

Tess Lawrie ( Mbbch , Phd ) … for those wondering what is a MBBCH … a bachelor degree in medicine .
All these degrees are Bachelors degrees meaning that you can leave secondary school (high school) and go straight to medical school for 5 or 6 years, then leave as a doctor. But if she continued to MBBS then it would equal an MD as this count
Non epidemiologist or virology… hmmmm.

Proposes a “ review “ of Ivermectin for covid- 19.
Ivermectrin is a parasitical compound , used in some degree against some viruses ( dengue I believe). But of course this is another futile attempt to push NON PEER REVIEWED , or Non clinical trial / Non placebo control …. Subjective push to make her paper relevant.

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Again Turd Surfer you Dullard … you fail in the misinformation game. Vlad should fire you. Most
would have egg on their face but you got shit.
 
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printer

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"I would, therefore, like to draw your attention to the high number of covid-19 vaccine-attributed deaths and ADRs that have been reported via the Yellow Card system between the 4th January 2021 and the 26th May 2021. In total, 1,253 deaths and 888,196 ADRs (256,224 individual reports) were reported during this period."

The Yellow Card scheme (similar to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System in the U.S.) can be added to by anyone, whether a clinician or a member of the public. The scheme aims to help regulators identify potential side effects involving medicines or vaccines that had not been detected or are more common than seen in clinical trials.

However, the figures reported through the scheme are not sufficient to establish a proven side effect. The U.K.’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), which runs the Yellow Card scheme, says:

“The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination. This is particularly the case when millions of people are vaccinated, and especially when most vaccines are being given to the most elderly people and people who have underlying illness.”

In other words, it may simply be a coincidence that an adverse event, such as a cancer diagnosis or a speech disorder, happened within a short period after vaccination. Detailed analysis is needed to understand whether an adverse event happens at a higher rate than would be expected in the population.

The director of The Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd, Tess Lawrie, wrote to the head of the MHRA about the adverse events reported for the COVID-19 vaccines. In the letter, which was quoted heavily in the article on America’s Frontline Doctors, Lawrie said that she would “like to draw your attention to the high number of covid-19 vaccine-attributed deaths”. However, as previously explained, deaths or any adverse events reported through the Yellow Card scheme were not attributed to vaccination.

In the letter, Lawrie stated that she recognized the limitations of the data and understood “that information on reported Adverse Drug Reactions should not be interpreted as meaning that the medicine in question generally causes the observed effect or is unsafe to use.” However, she contradicted this by concluding:

“The MHRA now has more than enough evidence on the Yellow Card system to declare the COVID-19 vaccines unsafe for use in humans.”

As evidence for her statements, Lawrie cited the numbers of various adverse events identified through the Yellow Card scheme. However, these reports can’t be used to establish a causal relationship between the vaccine and the occurrence of an adverse event. In addition, the raw numbers lack the context necessary to establish whether the vaccines are safe for use or not. Among the factors to consider are the expected side effects from vaccination, adverse events that would have happened regardless of vaccination, and the benefits of vaccination.

Expected side effects

The figures used by Lawrie overlook the fact that most of the reported adverse events are minor and transient, consisting of expected immune system responses associated with the use of vaccines. For instance, almost half of the nervous system disorders reported were headaches, which is listed as a very common side effect of the vaccines. There are also many reports of other common side effects such as pain, nausea, fever, and fatigue. The MHRA website clarified:

“For all vaccines, detailed review of all reports has found that the overwhelming majority relate to injection site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as a ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue (tiredness), nausea (feeling sick), fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these happen shortly after the vaccination and are not associated with more serious or lasting illness. These types of reaction reflect the acute immune response triggered by the body to the vaccines, are typically seen with most types of vaccine and tend to resolve within a day or two.”

Expected adverse events in the population

About 40 million people in the U.K. have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine since December 2020. Among such a large group of people, we would naturally expect to observe many medical conditions to arise that would have happened regardless of vaccination. The numbers reported through the Yellow Card Scheme do not provide this context, which would be necessary to determine whether an adverse event is occurring at an increased rate. The MHRA said:

“The total number and the nature of Yellow Cards reported so far is not unusual for a new vaccine for which members of the public and healthcare professionals are encouraged to report any suspected adverse reaction.”

Benefits of the vaccine

Each drug or vaccine is expected to cause a certain degree of side effects. However, this is weighed against the benefits of such an intervention to establish whether the public should use it. Lawrie does not appear to consider the benefits of vaccination in reducing deaths and hospitalizations due to COVID-19. The MHRA said:

“The expected benefits of the vaccines in preventing COVID-19 and serious complications associated with COVID-19 far outweigh any currently known side effects. As with all vaccines and medicines, the safety of COVID-19 vaccines is continuously monitored and benefits and possible risks remain under review.”

The Yellow Card scheme and its equivalents in other countries have already shown their use in identifying rare adverse events that may be linked to vaccinations. Regulators investigated following reports of an extremely rare specific type of blood clot in the brain, known as cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, occurring together with low levels of platelets (thrombocytopenia). Investigations found evidence for an increased risk of these rare blood clots among younger people after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine. This led to many countries changing the vaccination guidelines, preferring an alternative COVID-19 vaccine for younger people.

Similarly, rare occurrences of anaphylaxis (a severe allergic reaction) also led to changes in guidance and information on the choice of vaccines for susceptible individuals.

In summary, the reports identified by Lawrie do not indicate any unexpected side effects from the COVID-19 vaccines. The Yellow Card scheme does not assign a cause to medical events following vaccination. The MHRA regulatory body collects this data to prompt further investigation if they have concerns. The MHRA analyzed the data and confirmed that the benefit of the COVID-19 vaccines “far outweigh any currently known side effects”.

 

Budzbuddha

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Misinformation bullshit like this needs to be called out at every turn ……. Leading people into false remedies and pseudoscience will get people killed or harmed. You of course don’t care about your fellow man and deserve to be put on blast …. You bring nothing to this topic . You rather peddle dead ends and false hopes.

Being this is a grow site , you would think you would stick to burning up your seedlings with that mars hydro light you have on top of.
 

UncleBuck

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RNA (and the mRNA in the COVID vaccine) can rewrite human DNA.
Not only do most researchers claim this is impossible, but the safety of the COVID vaccine is wholly dependent upon this errant claim.
The vaccines reprogram your cells to produce the deadly spike protein - and they may even permanently alter your DNA.

The genetic biologist has logged on
 

Fogdog

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RNA (and the mRNA in the COVID vaccine) can rewrite human DNA.
Not only do most researchers claim this is impossible, but the safety of the COVID vaccine is wholly dependent upon this errant claim.
The vaccines reprogram your cells to produce the deadly spike protein - and they may even permanently alter your DNA.

yes, yes, the vaccine mythology you post is nice but repetitive. Tell us about Plasma Beings.

Want to know about Plasma Beings plz.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Delta variant: How will it affect US cases, vaccine efficacy? (usatoday.com)

Delta is the 'most serious' COVID-19 variant, scientists say. How will it affect the US?

As the Delta variant of COVID-19 tore through India last month, there was a lot of concern, but few answers about what would happen when it arrived in the United States.

Now that it accounts for at least 6% of this country's infections, there are a few more answers.

But it's still unclear whether Delta will go the mostly harmless way of other variants – or pose a serious threat to people who choose to skip COVID-19 shots.

"Globally, Delta is the most serious development that we know of in terms of the evolution of the virus," said William Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

The real danger, if any, will be to people who have chosen not to get vaccinated, he and others said.

"Until a few weeks ago, I would have said they're probably going to get away with (being unvaccinated)," said Dr. Robert Wachter, chair of the Department of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. But "if Delta really takes off, that choice looks worse and worse."

Vaccinated people should remain safe, he and others said. Even if they do get infected, they're likely to get a mild case of COVID-19.

But Wachter said a few new facts have made him worried about Delta's impact on unvaccinated Americans.

First, he's now convinced that Delta will take over as the main cause of COVID-19 in the U.S. because it's more contagious than previous variants.

It's still unclear whether Delta is also more dangerous, but early data can't rule that out, and on Tuesday the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention upgraded Delta to "a variant of concern," a more serious category than it had been in before.

With a virus that is more contagious, a larger percentage of the population needs to be protected through vaccination or natural infection to keep the virus from spreading.

A new study shows that vaccinated people are safe against the Delta variant – but only after they get a second dose, meaning it'll take a minimum of five or six weeks between the time someone decides to get vaccinated and when they're protected. So anyone who changes their mind after cases start rising probably won't have time to get protected, said Wachter, who laid out his concerns in a recent Twitter thread.

And he's concerned about what will happen to the unvaccinated in the fall, when cases are expected to climb, as flu does, with the season.

"Two weeks ago," he said, he would have predicted minor surges in the fall and the winter. "I'm now much more worried about Michigan-type surges."

More:What is the new coronavirus Delta variant, and should Americans be worried?

Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, shares his concern.

"When people choose not to be vaccinated, they're essentially contributing to an unfortunate natural experiment" to see what Delta will do, Offit said.

Although COVID-19 cases are way down in the United States – more than 90% since January – there is still enough virus circulating to cause a resurgence with just a small push, like the change of seasons, Offit said. "This is a winter virus at its heart."

Think of protection as a line, Wachter said. The more protected you are, the further you are over the line.

Two shots probably push people further past the line than a mild case of disease. People who are immunocompromised because of age or a medical condition don't get as far. And as immunity wanes over time, everyone gets closer to that dividing line.

On the opposite side, a variant like Delta moves the line, making it harder to get and stay protected, Wachter said.

His message to the unvaccinated: "You are less safe than you think you are and less safe than we would have thought two weeks ago now that we're understanding what's going on with Delta."

Message from abroad: UK cases are climbing
In the United Kingdom, where vaccination rates are similar to the U.S.'s, cases are climbing by 64% per week and are doubling each week in the country's hot spots, according to the BBC. On Monday, U.K. prime minister Boris Johnson delayed his country's planned reopening until July 19 to allow more people to get fully vaccinated.

Also Monday, Public Health England said the Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccines performed just as well against the Delta variant after two doses as against the original strain, with both more than 90% effective.

Some worry that the United States may be just a few weeks behind the U.K.

Hanage said the U.S. is so big and diverse that different areas are likely to see different outbreaks.

"I don't think we're going to get a national surge," he said. "Countrywide, the number of vaccinations are going to be hard for Delta to evade."

An area with 90% vaccination may be safe, and not see any outbreak at all, he said. Unless the 10% who are unvaccinated "all work in the same meatpacking plant," in which case that could spur a serious local problem.
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DIY-HP-LED

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China's COVID-19 vaccines are being called into question after infections surged in countries using Chinese shots (yahoo.com)

China's COVID-19 vaccines are being called into question after infections surged in countries using Chinese shots

  • Two Chinese shots have been welcomed by vaccine-deprived lower-income countries.
  • But in some, cases of COVID-19 are surging even after widespread vaccination.
  • In response, observers are questioning how well the shots work, angering China.
By March, the Seychelles was one of the world's most vaccinated countries. With over half of its population fully inoculated from COVID-19, the island nation off Africa was outpacing even Israel.

This speedy rollout was largely thanks to China - imports of its Sinopharm shot made up 57% of all doses delivered there.

So when the Seychelles saw a sharp rise in virus cases in mid-May, despite some 60% of the population being fully vaccinated, that came as a surprise.

Later the surprise deepened as health officials confirmed, on May 10, that more than one third of Seychelles residents to fall sick had indeed already taken their vaccines.

Since then, more countries that use Chinese vaccines have been seeing rises in cases, prompting a reckoning for China as experts reassess the effectiveness of its widespread shots.

Vaccines exported to 95 countries worldwide
While Europe and the US were hoarding the Western-made AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Pfizer vaccines, China distributed its jabs widely. It was a lifeline for lower-income countries that had little hope of securing American or European jabs.

China's two flagship vaccines, made by biotech companies Sinovac and Sinopharm, quickly became a soft power tool in China's foreign policy.

According to the Beijing-based Bridge Consultancy, 95 countries have received doses of the Chinese vaccines. Out of almost 800 million doses promised by China, 272 million had been delivered as of mid-June.


It is not only the Seychelles. Two other countries which are highly vaccinated and rely heavily on the Sinopharm BBIB-P vaccine - Bahrain and Mongolia - have also seen a spike in cases.

Both countries have said they still trust the vaccines. Bahrain's undersecretary of health said that more than 90% of those hospitalized there were not vaccinated.

A policy adviser to the Mongolian Government told The Daily Telegraph that the spike in cases was due to the end of a lockdown, not problems with the vaccine.

Nonetheless, some are looking to limit exposure to the Chinese shots. Bahrain and the UAE, another early adopter of Sinopharm, have started offering the option of a Pfizer booster shot to those who had been fully vaccinated with the Sinopharm vaccine.

China's other flagship vaccine, Sinovac's CoronaVac jab, is also being closely scrutinized.

Santiago, the capital of Chile capital, imposed another lockdown on Saturday, as cases are sharply rising in spite of almost 60% of the country being fully immunized. Chile's vaccination program uses mostly Sinovac shots.

Variants probably have a role to play in the surge, Dr Susan Bueno, a professor of immunology from the Pontifical Catholic University, previously told the BBC. Even so, variants are present in Western nations without so pronounced an effect.

The vaccines are protective against severe disease, but maybe not against infection and mild disease
"You really need to use high-efficacy vaccines to get that economic benefit because otherwise they're going to be living with the disease long term," Raina MacIntyre, head of the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute of the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, told The New York Times for a recent article.

"The choice of vaccine matters."

If the vaccine is not protective against transmission of the virus, the countries might not be able to reach the elusive state of herd immunity, when enough people in the population are protected to stop the virus from spreading.

Israel seems to have recently passed that threshold. Earlier this month, when 60% of the country's population was fully vaccinated, cases dropped to about 15 a day, and are now hovering around zero. Israel used Western shots.

An expert previously told Insider that Israel's example suggests that other countries can reach herd immunity with a similar level of immunization.

Whereas Moderna and Pfizer shots are based on new mRNA technology, Sinovac and Sinopharm's vaccines use an inactivated virus in their shot. This is an older vaccine technology, used successfully in other diseases for decades.

Both Chinese shots have been given emergency use authorization by the WHO within the past six weeks.

According to published data, Sinopharm's vaccine is 79% effective at stopping symptomatic COVID-19. But there are caveats to that study, as it is based on a cohort of people under 60, mostly men, and on average pretty young, around 31 years old. Most serious COVID-19 cases are in far older people.

Looking at the data from the Seychelles, vaccine expert Dr. Kim Mulholland told The New York Times that the Sinopharm vaccine's efficacy was closer to about 50%.

This would be consistent with the protection seen with the Sinovac vaccine. The WHO says this shot gives 50.6% against symptomatic disease, based on data from a large study in Brazil.

By comparison, Pfizer and Moderna shots confer over 90% protection.

China does not hide that its vaccines probably don't give comprehensive protection from COVID-19.

In an interview with state-owned Chinese National Business Daily published on June 7, Shao Yiming, Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention expert, said the Chinese vaccines available in China are designed to prevent severe illness, not all infections.
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TacoMac

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RNA (and the mRNA in the COVID vaccine) can rewrite human DNA.
Not only do most researchers claim this is impossible, but the safety of the COVID vaccine is wholly dependent upon this errant claim.
The vaccines reprogram your cells to produce the deadly spike protein - and they may even permanently alter your DNA.


Dumbass.
 

printer

Well-Known Member
RNA (and the mRNA in the COVID vaccine) can rewrite human DNA.
Not only do most researchers claim this is impossible, but the safety of the COVID vaccine is wholly dependent upon this errant claim.
The vaccines reprogram your cells to produce the deadly spike protein - and they may even permanently alter your DNA.

Fact check: Genetic materials from mRNA vaccines do not multiply in your body forever
A video shared online in which a man discusses mRNA vaccines includes numerous false claims, including that the vaccines become part of recipients’ bodies, that they alter DNA, and that they haven’t been tested.

The video begins with a man describing how the new vaccines used to protect against COVID-19 are different from vaccines that have been released before (here Timestamp 5.18). Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines that are available in the UK are mRNA vaccines.

The man says of the new vaccines: “Once you get this COVID-19 vaccine, and this little bit of genetic material, it becomes part of you. And those cells in your body will start multiplying and you will have parts of the genetic material of a foreign entity in your body for the rest of your life, there’s nothing that you can do about it. It now becomes part of you. You have been genetically engineered. Your DNA is now different from what it was prior to getting the vaccine.” (Timestamp 7.47)

Reuters has previously debunked claims that mRNA vaccines alter recipients’ DNA (here) While these types of vaccines do involve the injection of a small part of the virus’s genetic code to stimulate immune response in a patient without an infection (here) in contrast to the more widespread “conventional” vaccines (here) which use a whole pathogen or fragment, the mRNA from the vaccine does not alter the recipient’s DNA, is broken down shortly after vaccination and does not stay in the body (here).

Every (here) is a link to a page with the information they use to debunk the claim.

Please realize you are being programed to believe nonsense. I still am waiting to hear what "They" want to achieve by injecting us with the vaccine.
 
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