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DIY-HP-LED

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This was noticed and conjectured months ago, that some covid long haulers who don't clear the infection from their systems become ‎variant factories. I guess more and better antiviral medications and antibody therapies will be needed for some people, as well as better next generation and booster vaccines for everybody. The Indian delta variant appears to be particularly nasty and given the partial immunity, even a full vaccine gives, it should lead to many mild and asymptomatic cases among the fully vaccinated. The unvaccinated will be road kill, as this thing is very contagious, even in summer and it seems to make people sicker.
 

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Early in the pandemic I posted about Chinese scientists being banned from a Canadian level 4 lab they had been working in, no explanation was given for the ban. Turns out these scientists were affiliated with the Wuhan lab, I don't believe in coincidence.
No coincidence. Both are Level 4 labs.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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J&J vaccine is relatively easy to produce in quantity and America has millions of doses about to expire, America's and Canadians are opting for mRNA vaccines. However many places would be eager to get them and more besides, I also believe it is also a non profit effort, similar to the Oxford AZ vaccine, that also uses an adenovirus vector.
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Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine Induces Strong T-Cell Response To Variants : Shots - Health News : NPR

New Evidence Suggests COVID-19 Vaccines Remain Effective Against Variants
The emergence of new and more infectious variants of the coronavirus has raised a troubling question: Will the current crop of COVID-19 vaccine prevent these variants from causing disease?

A study out Wednesday in the journal Nature suggests the answer is yes.

The research was fairly straightforward. Scientists took blood from volunteers who had received the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine and looked at the levels of neutralizing antibodies, the kind that prevent a virus from entering cells.

"What we showed is that the neutralizing antibodies are reduced about fivefold to the B.1.351 variant," says Dan Barouch, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston. Under the new nomenclature proposed by the World Health Organization, B.1.351 is now called Beta. It first appeared in South Africa.

"That's very similar to what other investigators have shown with other vaccines," he says. "But what we also showed is that there's many other types of immune responses other than neutralizing antibodies, including binding antibodies, FC functional antibodies and T-cell responses."


And it's that last immune response, the T-cell response, that Barouch says is critically important. Because T cells, particularly CD8 T cells, play a crucial role in preventing illness.

"Those are the killer T cells," Barouch says. "Those are the types of T cells that can basically seek out and destroy cells that are infected and help clear infection directly."

They don't prevent infection; they help keep an infection from spreading.
"The T-cell responses actually are not reduced — at all — to the variants," Barouch says. It's not just the Beta variant, but also the Alpha and Gamma variants.

That may help explain why the Johnson & Johnson vaccine prevented serious disease when tested in volunteers South Africa, where worrisome variants are circulating.

"The data is very solid," says Alessandro Sette, an immunologist at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology. "Dan Barouch's data really show very nicely that there is no appreciable decrease in [CD8 T-cell] reactivity."

Sette's lab has had similar results with the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines. So has Marcela Maus at Massachusetts General Hospital. Although it will take studies in people to be certain the vaccines will work against variants, "Anything that generates a T-cell immune response to the SARS-CoV-2, I would say has promise as being potentially protective," Maus says.

What's not clear yet is how long the T-cell response will last, but several labs are working to answer that question.
 

captainmorgan

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The India variant is 60% more transmissible than the UK variant, the Uk variant is 80% more transmissible than the original virus.
The india variant accounts for 90% of new infections in the UK.
The number of new cases in the UK has almost quadrupled in the last week.
The UK and USA have about the same percentage of fully vaccinated people.
Here we go again.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The India variant is 60% more transmissible than the UK variant, the Uk variant is 80% more transmissible than the original virus.
The india variant accounts for 90% of new infections in the UK.
The number of new cases in the UK has almost quadrupled in the last week.
The UK and USA have about the same percentage of fully vaccinated people.
Here we go again.
Here is NS 90% of people over 65 have got a single dose (mostly Pfizer), but only 7% of people in Canada have had the second round. We should have everybody who wants a vaccine including kids vaccinated by fall.

If you have a full Pfizer in ya you should be ok, the hospital data shows younger unvaccinated people and a few breakthrough cases among the fully and partially vaccinated. The number of people over 60 being hospitalized for covid has dropped like a stone among the vaccinated.

There might be other unpleasant things associated with the delta variant than a higher R0 for contagion, this one has other unpleasant side effects, infects younger people and depletes the immune system. The current vaccines are not as effective against it either:

Delta Variant and COVID-19 Vaccines: What to Know (webmd.com)

Delta Variant and COVID-19 Vaccines: What to Know
  • Study finds two doses needed to block Delta variant.
  • 6,000 die from COVID-19 in single day in India.
  • Delta now dominant strain in U.K.
June 10, 2021 -- As the highly transmissible Delta coronavirus variant continues to devastate India and spread to other nations, health experts are reiterating the importance of getting the COVID-19 vaccine – both doses of the shot, that is.

A study conducted in the United Kingdom that was cited by the Biden administration finds that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine provided about 33% protection against the Delta variant, which is officially designated B.1.617.2.

Two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, meanwhile, provided about 88% protection. The study is a pre-print and has not yet been peer reviewed. (Click here to learn more about coronavirus variants.)

“If you've gotten your first dose, make sure to get that second dose,” Anthony Fauci, MD, White House medical advisor, said Tuesday, noting that the Delta variant accounts for about 6% of new U.S. cases. That number could be higher, however, as the U.S. system for tracking coronavirus variants is lacking. “For those who have not been vaccinated, please get vaccinated.”

In Northern Ireland, the gap between the first and second doses of the AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines is being cut to 8 weeks from 10-12 weeks to offer more protection against the Delta variant, the BBC reported.

"It seems this variant can get past our first dose of vaccine," says Queen's University Belfast virologist Connor Bamford, according to the BBC. "So, we need to make sure as many people as possible get their two doses and even think about decreasing the length between dose one and two because that's going to be critical going forward."

The studies have not included the two-shot Moderna vaccine or the one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Fauci, however, told The Washington Post he believes the Moderna’s vaccine would be as effective as the Pfizer shot.
 

captainmorgan

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Missouri cases on a steep rise, steepest in the country, India variant confirmed, at least the tRUmptards won't have to worry about being magnetized by the vaccine.
 

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Fogdog

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Oh that's just wonderful. We've heard anecdotal reports that some people develop memory problems after being sick with Covid. Science is just now catching up and confirming a nasty side effect from inflammation caused by the disease, not just the virus.

20% of recovered patients reported ongoing memory impairment [3]. Evidence now supports similar complications after COVID-19, which due to the global pandemic, is poised to potentially lead to a surge in cases of Alzheimer’s-like dementia or other forms of neurocognitive impairment in the near future

Apparently, people like PJ, who are already at high risk of Alzheimer's are even more likely to lose cognitive ability.
 
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