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hyroot

hyroot

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Greengenes707 said:
Very nice. Good solid organic regiment. That dosido from stardust looks killer. I have his sherbert cut.
I feel like you're close to me. Maybe I will see you at an event one day.


You're not getting me. It is nothing todo with hormonal/phytochrome response of the sunset/sunrise. Dimming how he is doing allows the photosystems(for photosynthesis) of the plants to warm up to their full rate of photosynthesis. As where hitting them 100% from the get go can cause slight delay/inhibition, which lowers the rate of photosynthesis going on in the first ~hour and lowering photosynthesis overall. So in turn, decreasing power to start with, is increasing photosynthesis , both in the beginning while dimmed, and overall. The exact opposite that one time you did it.

@salmonetin Nothing here is automated. Just the choice the grower is making when he is in his room and using normal POT dimmer.
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I do get it. It was more than 1 time. I did the exact same thing. Not the opposite. The opposite would be dimming in mid day. What I did was 1st time just dimming at end of day. 2nd timed dimmed when lights came on and dimmed at end. Even tried dimming at just the end of flower too. Nothing improved.

Again all it did was make plants finished sooner and yield smaller.

That was with 1000 watts. Se


If dimming to work like outside. Where the sun is shining on different parts of the plant through out the day. Then you would need to run the long 14 hour days and need that phytochromw response. So the plant gets the requires amount of light it needs.


On paper it seems logical. But in reality plants are just getting less light and in turn finishing sooner and yielding less.

Mj is a very adaptive plant. So once it's used to a certain schedule. The photosynthesis response has adapted as well.


You know I experiment probably more than anyone with various methods, schedules, lighting, nutes, pot sizes, etc....
 
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salmonetin

salmonetin

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Greengenes707 said:
@salmonetin Nothing here is automated. Just the choice the grower is making when he is in his room and using normal POT dimmer.
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...here is in your room? or... here its in this thread?...

...then on your room you only use manual dimm... then seems to me you dont like the coralux controller...

...diferents povs and opinions... thanks for sharing diferent povs...

:peace:

Saludos
 
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PurpleBuz

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Greengenes707 said:
You're not getting me. It is nothing todo with hormonal/phytochrome response of the sunset/sunrise. Dimming how he is doing allows the photosystems(for photosynthesis) of the plants to warm up to their full rate of photosynthesis. As where hitting them 100% from the get go can cause slight delay/inhibition, which lowers the rate of photosynthesis going on in the first ~hour and lowering photosynthesis overall. So in turn, decreasing power to start with, is increasing photosynthesis , both in the beginning while dimmed, and overall. The exact opposite that one time you did it.
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I actually give y plants a warm up/warm down period, but that's mostly cause I'm trying to skimp on power and thought it might be better to bring the lights up/down slowly. No dimmers, just different lights set on different timers.

If there is any evidence that the plants do better this way I'd love to see.

In the meantime I'm setup with far red on\off around sunset\sunrise, half lighting around sunset\sunrise. With the far red Pfr I still keep 12 - 13 hours of light each day. so their isn't less total light per day.
same amount of light total, same yield total.
 
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s0ur

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@puffenuff
Its my first time running her I didn't clone her I'm probably going to regret it later but I just picked up a pack of Tony clifton ogkb bx1 and popped a few seeds got two different phenos one sativa and one is more ogkb dom can't wait to pop the rest of them
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s0ur

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Greengenes707 said:
Very nice. Good solid organic regiment. That dosido from stardust looks killer. I have his sherbert cut.
I feel like you're close to me. Maybe I will see you at an event one day.

is doing allows the photosystems(for photosynthesis) of the plants to warm up to their full rate of photosynthesis. As where hitting them 100% from the get go can cause slight delay/inhibition, which lowers the rate of photosynthesis going on in the first ~hour and lowering photosynthesis overall. So in turn, decreasing power to start with, is increasing photosynthesis , both in the beginning while dimmed, and overall. The exact opposite that one time you did it.

@salmonetin Nothing here is automated. Just the choice the grower is making when he is in his room and using normal POT dimmer.
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Yea I'm about 3hrs south of Santa Rosa. I like that sherb cut. I'm thinking about going to the emerald cup this year to get new gear for 2016 if your going let me know
 
puffenuff

puffenuff

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s0ur said:
Yea I'm about 3hrs south of Santa Rosa. I like that sherb cut. I'm thinking about going to the emerald cup this year to get new gear for 2016 if your going let me know
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Must be pretty close to me then. I'm about 2 hrs south depending on traffic. And yeah from all the buzz about dosidos, I get the feeling she'll be a highly sought after strain in due time. That and Gelato are going for insane prices per cut from what I hear.
 
FranJan

FranJan

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Greengenes707 said:
Dimming how he is doing allows the photosystems(for photosynthesis) of the plants to warm up to their full rate of photosynthesis. As where hitting them 100% from the get go can cause slight delay/inhibition, which lowers the rate of photosynthesis going on in the first ~hour and lowering photosynthesis overall. So in turn, decreasing power to start with, is increasing photosynthesis , both in the beginning while dimmed, and overall. The exact opposite that one time you did it.
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I always thought it was kinda psychotic towards the plant to just flip the lights on but I would think a period of 730 followed by a period of 730 + 660 then after a certain amount of time having your main lighting dim on would probably be what someone wanting to get photo-receptors up and running would want. I think dimming straight on with your main light is great for your lights performance and longevity and less cruel to the plants but with getting a plants photo-receptors on-line you've got other spectrum mixed-in together which may effect the plant's physiology in unforeseen ways. You're probably right GG, Lord knows you've grown your share, but adding monos, while complicating the procedure, would still get a better response I bet. IDK, maybe I'm saying you can't be too spectrum agnostic sometimes :).

Best of Luck with your new day job BTW! Panel looks solid too!
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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hyroot said:
I do get it. It was more than 1 time. I did the exact same thing. Not the opposite. The opposite would be dimming in mid day. What I did was 1st time just dimming at end of day. 2nd timed dimmed when lights came on and dimmed at end. Even tried dimming at just the end of flower too. Nothing improved.

Again all it did was make plants finished sooner and yield smaller.

That was with 1000 watts. Se


If dimming to work like outside. Where the sun is shining on different parts of the plant through out the day. Then you would need to run the long 14 hour days and need that phytochromw response. So the plant gets the requires amount of light it needs.


On paper it seems logical. But in reality plants are just getting less light and in turn finishing sooner and yielding less.

Mj is a very adaptive plant. So once it's used to a certain schedule. The photosynthesis response has adapted as well.


You know I experiment probably more than anyone with various methods, schedules, lighting, nutes, pot sizes, etc....
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This is correct, the only way to imitate sunset / sunrise is with a custom spectrum light , dimming lights without certain wavelengths will just reduce the amount of light your plant gets and we all know the fewer hours of day during flower the less yield and faster they finish. Hyroot +1
 
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s0ur

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IlovePlants said:
Looking delicious, how old, and how much longer do you think they will have? They look very happy :) It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas in there!

Sincerely,
IlovePlants
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Breeder says 8-9 weeks but looks more like a 9-10 week strain there on week 6 right now. I'm just going to let them fade probably going to loss a little weight on the 2 that are fading. It's my first run with them There's 2 phenos of the sour sunset that I have my eyes on. there's a frosty pheno and the other is a little less frost but very loud. both leaning toward the sunset sherb male dna/crockett used there's no sour in both phenos.
Next time I run her I'll probably move up to #7 fabric pot and see what she can do.
 
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