Outline of the Grow

Finshaggy

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Got the age correct. Other than that, how about an individual with an MS degree in engineering that has a decreasing level of tolerance for self aggrandizing pseudo intellectuals.

Fit your profile?

Just some perspective.
Yeah. You aren't on disability, but would you describe yourself as a Yuppie? Or what is your deal?

And no matter who you are, coming in here to be a piece of shit for 4 pages (I don't know if you have been here the whole time or not, again, I have no idea who you are) then it doesn't really matter what your job or idea of yourself is, because to me you are just a piece of shit and I don't care what you think of yourself.

Come right.
 

ovo

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Most cultivators have no interest in being known and are perfectly fine appearing as just another pedestrian. Fin, I see you prefer to go on the offence with people trolling your thread, which I can understand, but you're coming off as somewhat ageist. The pomp aspect I don't care about either way. Looking forward to your grow and experiments but not gratuitous insults from either camp imo. See ya in the grow thread. :leaf:
 

Finshaggy

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Most cultivators have no interest in being known and are perfectly fine appearing as just another pedestrian. Fin, I see you prefer to go on the offence with people trolling your thread, which I can understand, but you're coming off as somewhat ageist. The pomp aspect I don't care about either way. Looking forward to your grow and experiments but not gratuitous insults from either camp imo. See ya in the grow thread. :leaf:
I don't have anything against older people, Alexander "Sasha" Shulgin is the person I probably look up to most, and he was like 80 when he died.

I just don't have high hopes for the older population on the Marijuana grow websites, jacking off on pictures of my sister, unable to resist coming to my threads and keeping them at the top of the forum at all times.
 

Finshaggy

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The Banana Crack, White Strawberry Diesel and Purple Bud came today. And I got a free Strawberry Diesel seed and Strawberry StarDawg seed from Holy Smokes. Which is weird because I also got the White Strawberry Skunk from Strain Hunters, so now I have 3 Strawberry strains from 2 different lines of Erdbeer crosses.
 

Lucky Luke

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I don't have anything against older people, Alexander "Sasha" Shulgin is the person I probably look up to most, and he was like 80 when he died.

I just don't have high hopes for the older population on the Marijuana grow websites, jacking off on pictures of my sister, unable to resist coming to my threads and keeping them at the top of the forum at all times.
Can you post some pics of your sister?
 

I'mBatman

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First off I just want to say that I am not here asking for anyone's help, and that you guys have shown over and over and over that you would rather grow with perfect humidity and perfect temps, etc, rather than treating this plant like it was raised in the desert (where it comes from) and allowing "survival of the fittest" happen in environments you create in order to create new, better strains (as Epigenetics has proven can happen pretty quickly). I showed you guys the evidence and everything, and I will do it again here if anyone asks. But my point is that I would rather not have help from most people here, because most of you either don't understand what I am doing, or are trolls.

Ok, so here is kind of the outline of the grow we just started. We have 3 people, so we can have 18 plants, we have 10 plants now.

Strains growing now from seed:
South African Kwazulu
Malawi...
African Buzz
Hindu Kush
White Rhino
Blue Mystic
Early Durban

Clones bought and growing:
Girl Scout Cookies
Danky Kong
Gorilla Glue

Seeds coming in the mail:
Banana Crack
White Strawberry Skunk
Purple Bud
Green Crack
Trainwreck

We will be hoping for a few of them to be males, and then when we get a male or 2 we will start making crosses. The crosses we want to get are African Strains X Aromatic/Flavor Strains X Kush/Haze/Cheese/Diesel/etc (Commercial) Strains. And I will make videos and take pictures of the grow, and teach people what lights to use, and what nutrients to use, and how to supercrop and top your plants, and how to make a clone, and how to use different things to get bigger buds the same way tomatoes can be grown on a metal cone frame in order to get bigger tomatoes, etc. so we will show everyone how to do everything, and we will be doing it with some pretty awesome strains.

And before anyone says "Why would anyone watch videos of you teaching them something?", all the trolls probably remember my YouTube channel. I had 1,000.000 views and would have probably 10,000,000 by now if the Atheists hadn't got mad that I left their little YouTube show, because I was their only Religious person, so their show became about just Atheists agreeing with each other, which isn't a show. So they teamed up to take my channel down. I could make a new one, but I am just going to use Facebook. But anyways, my point is that people love learning these things from me, especially from the historical perspective I give them.

Everyone else acts like Marijuana growing is Clinical and as if all the people growing in closets for the past 60 years figured it all out, and that's it. Lol. I just show people the truth and they love it.

I also got 4x 26W CFL UVB lights just came in the mail. So that should be over 400W of 10.0 UVB light. That will boost THCv content and make the plants think they are in Africa.

And I have a 1500W LED coming, along with 600W of Corn LED lights. And I already have 2x like 100W CFLs, plus 1x like 50W CFL.
I'm in!
 

Finshaggy

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Holy shit..is this dude for real..

wtf do monkeys have to do with weed??? and who grows plants like this after 6 years???



:roll:
3/3 clones from the dispensary lived through the rooting phase, what a tragedy. I'm so ashamed. If only 2 had died, then I could be like people here.
 

Dr. Who

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First off I just want to say that I am not here asking for anyone's help, and that you guys have shown over and over and over that you would rather grow with perfect humidity and perfect temps, etc, rather than treating this plant like it was raised in the desert (where it comes from) and allowing "survival of the fittest" happen in environments you create in order to create new, better strains (as Epigenetics has proven can happen pretty quickly). I showed you guys the evidence and everything, and I will do it again here if anyone asks. But my point is that I would rather not have help from most people here, because most of you either don't understand what I am doing, or are trolls.
Then why the fuck do you post? With the way you speak to people. You will be trolled..

Survival of the fittest? Dude, do you even understand that the ones you deem as unfit.....could be the next most potent strain? Just because something survives a harsh environment (in our plant's case). Is no guarantee of the "best" quality plant pheno.

I don't get the point..

Cannabis grows in all climates and at many different altitudes. It is not strictly a "desert" plant. Your choice of grow styles are rather unique and do confuse many...Hey, if it works for you, fine then.....

Also, this is my Religion, I am a Hindu Shaivite. So while we will be staying within the legal Colorado limit, Religions are only limited to growing what they need for their congregation without allowing it to move into illegal channels.

Here is the Religious case for this:

To prove my case I use a mixture of Case Law (Law decided by the Courts), Statutory Law (Law decided by Congress), Fundamental Law (Constitutional Rights and operations of the Courts and Congress as stated in the Constitution,etc), Historical Evidence to prove the reality of the Religion, and even DEA and FDA Administrative Regulations. This is not the whole case, but it is an outline that anyone could show to their lawyer and ask them to apply it to their situation. As long as you are actually growing Religiously, and not just using Religion as an excuse to sell Bud.

Hinduism is the only Ancient World Religion that has survived through Abraham, Jesus and Muhammed and is practiced by 15% of the World's current population. India is the only country in which the people living there are still using the same Temples and Holy Sites that they used over 4500 years ago when the first Hindu Holy Book, the Rig Veda, was written. Marijuana has been a part of every large society, from Ancient China, India and Egypt, to Ancient Greece, Rome and the Middle East and Europe. The word Indica means "From India" the word Sativa means "To Cultivate". The word "Ganja" comes from the Ganges River and the word "Kush" comes from the Hindu Kush Mountains, where it is believed the first Marijuana seeds came from. Lord Shiva is the Lord of Marijuana, the Lord of Bhang. Shiva is what happens when you smoke Marijuana, Shiva is what happens when you Dance. Shiva is simply a force of Nature and can not be denied. The DEA allows for corporations to legally Manufacture, Import (through customs), Distribute/Sell, etc, Marijuana (by the Ton), Coca leaf and Cocaine (by the ton), substances like LSD, 2C-I, DOM, etc, there are companies that have licenses to Manufacture or Import not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 10 substances, but some places are allowed to Manufacture and Import 50+ Schedule I and Schedule II substances. And in August 2016 the opened up registration for companies to begin doing this with Marijuana, as the University of Mississippi was the only place allowed to do it under Federal law before (for the Federal Marijuana patients), and this was seen by the DOJ as a Monopoly, so the DEA opened up registration.

The way this works is called DEA form 225, protocol found in 21 CFR 1301.18; 81 FR 53846. And the Free Exercise Clause states that Congress shall make no laws to prohibit the Free Exercise of Religion. If a corporation has been given a right or opportunity, that same right or opportunity must be given to Religions. The way the courts have stated it previously is that "If Marijuana laws are equally applied to everyone, then we can apply them to your Religion", well they are no longer being equally applied to everyone.

United States v. E.C. Knight Co 156 US 1 (1895)
Swift & Co v. United States 196 US 375 (1905)
Normaco v. DEA, No. 02-1211 (DC Cir. 2004)
John Doe Inc v. DEA 484 F.3d 561 (DC Cir. 2007)

This right must be afforded to Religions whether or not they are mainstream
Cutter v. Wilkinson 544 US 709 (2005)
Obergefell v. Hodges 576 US ___ (2015)

All Sacraments - being "Sacred Food" - are not "Drugs" as defined under 21 USC S 321(g)(1) of the FD&C Act which defined a "Drug" as "An article that is intended for the use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in man or other animals and articles (other than food) intended to affect the structure or function of the body of man or other animals".

"But beyond all these matters, no purpose of action against Religion can be imputed to any legislation, State or National, because this is a Religious People. This is Historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour"
Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States 143 US 457 (1892)

A Law is only a Law if it fulfills Constitutional promises, the Constitution being the only thing that allows laws to exist, via the Commerce Clause, etc. But Congress shall not write Laws that prohibit Religion.
Hilton v. Guyot 159 US 113 (1895)
Walz v. Tax Comm'n of City of New York 397 US 664 (1970)
Leary v. United States 395 US 6 (1969)
United States v. Alfonso D. Lopez Jr. 514 US 549 (1995)
United States v. Alvarez 567 US ___ (2012)

A Church is not much different in nature than a State, see Texas v. White 74 US 700 (1868). Religion is a form of COMITY INTER GENTES from AFFLATUS. The Separation of Church and State in the Establishment Clause exists because of the fact that Religion used to be the State, as it is now in Vatican City and the Holy See, Churches may be a party to CONCORDAT see Ponce v. Roman Catholic Church 210 US 296 (1908); Respublica v. DeLongchamps 1 US 111 (1784); Serban Orthodox Diocese v. Milivojevich 426 US 696 (1976); Presbyterian Church v. Hull Church 393 US 440 (1969).

"The term "Religious Exercise" includes any Exercise of Religion, whether or not compelled by, or central to, a system of Religious belief."
42 USC S 2000cc-5(7)(a)

"The general characteristics of Schedule I substances cannot carry the day"
Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao do Vegetal 546 US 418 (2006)
Church of the Holy Light of the Queen v. Eric Holder, No. 13-35058 (9th Cir. 2014)

"Congress must first enact a Law criminalizing an activity, attach a penalty, and give the Federal courts Jurisdiction"
Hudson v. United States 522 US 93 (1997)

"Congress shall make no Laws prohibiting the Free Exercise of Religion"
The Free Exercise Clause of the 1st Amendment

"If a Government confronts an individual with a choice that pressures the individual to forgo a Religious practice, whether by imposing a penalty or withholding a benefit, then the Government has burdened the individuals Free Exercise of Religion"
Sherbert v. Verner 374 US 398 (1963)

"Even neutral laws can be used Unconstitutionally"
Yick Wo v. Hopkins 118 US 356 (1886)
42 USC S 2000bb(a)(2)

"Conduct business in accordance with their Religious beliefs"
Burwell v. Hobby Lobby 573 US ___ (2014)

Laws can not Covertly or Overtly forbid the practice of any Religion
Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. Hialeah 508 US 520 (1993)
United States v. Price 383 US 787 (1966)

Great, now we have to be part of your religious rhetoric and your long winded religion vs law lesson....How do you think your not going to be trolled over this shit!

You bore us with this shit....We don't care!

If your going to show growing in your style, DO THAT, and skip the legal/religion/religious grandstanding.....ok?


See, this is what I am talking about. Either you don't understand what is going on in this picture or you are a troll.

This picture you are showing is a grow I did where I was stressing plants, and these plants were in the first stages. Why don't you show the pictures of the plants that were being grown sideways? Or the plant that was chopped in half on purpose which you all said "would die" but grew like 2 full plants instead?

Of course I had to go to Texas and end the grow before I finished, and I was working on an extremely tight budget as I had not won my court case yet and had warrants out in Texas. But I have since won my case, gotten better lights, gotten better genetics (those plants you are showing are from bagseed also, nothing against bagseed, but it's not meant for the best pictures).

Anyways, basically, you quoted me, then made my point. Either you do not understand what is going on in this picture, or you are a troll. And you have shown over and over and over that you either don't understand what epigenetics are or want to remain ignorant of epigenetics.

I will bring the evidence in the next post for you.
Quit your belly aching. Ignore this crap and simply do the grow stuff!

Monkeys and Ebola?

Treating Cannabis like a desert plant?

Religious rhetoric?

This thread is a waste of time!

Your growing and breeding habits aren't just different. They're weird. Your theories are from lack of education and the use of logic vs. science.

Incorrect logic.

Read to pg 3 and I'm out!

I don't know what your attempting to prove here. Your posts are all over the place and convoluted.

Call me what you want....

This is stupid.
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
You aren't. :lol:

Did you not read what I just said. The people of India are still the people of India. The Aboriginals are no longer the people of Australia. When I say "Australian Person" you think of a White person, not an Aboriginal. When I say "Indian person" you would think of an Indian person.

You are just going to have to admit you are a bad troll. Sorry. I think you completely misunderstood what I said and are now trying to make some alternative point that Aboriginal and Native American Religions have existed longer, which was not the point. As I said before, this was the shortened version.

If you want I can post the longer version for you so that you can stop trying to go back to which Religion is "oldest". My point is that Hinduism survived all the invaders and has the same people, using the same temples, and practicing the same religion, in the same place.

And while you are taking that and saying "The Aboriginals are still in the same place practicing the same Religion" but anyone studying an Aboriginal is doing so like you study a tribe, they are not a Religion which has survived Christianity and Islam, it has been diminished. I don't see how you could not understand after this, so if you still don't get it after this I am just going to assume you are trolling.
?????
Your trolling right back, and wrong....Your now telling us what "we think"?
 

cat of curiosity

Well-Known Member
Then why the fuck do you post? With the way you speak to people. You will be trolled..

Survival of the fittest? Dude, do you even understand that the ones you deem as unfit.....could be the next most potent strain? Just because something survives a harsh environment (in our plant's case). Is no guarantee of the "best" quality plant pheno.

I don't get the point..

Cannabis grows in all climates and at many different altitudes. It is not strictly a "desert" plant. Your choice of grow styles are rather unique and do confuse many...Hey, if it works for you, fine then.....




Great, now we have to be part of your religious rhetoric and your long winded religion vs law lesson....How do you think your not going to be trolled over this shit!

You bore us with this shit....We don't care!

If your going to show growing in your style, DO THAT, and skip the legal/religion/religious grandstanding.....ok?




Quit your belly aching. Ignore this crap and simply do the grow stuff!

Monkeys and Ebola?

Treating Cannabis like a desert plant?

Religious rhetoric?

This thread is a waste of time!

Your growing and breeding habits aren't just different. They're weird. Your theories are from lack of education and the use of logic vs. science.

Incorrect logic.

Read to pg 3 and I'm out!

I don't know what your attempting to prove here. Your posts are all over the place and convoluted.

Call me what you want....

This is stupid.
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WeedFreak78

Well-Known Member
Show me one scientific study where traits in genetic animal expressions had been used to quantify vegetative genetic expression.

Show me one picture of a full, healthy, unadultered plant you've grown to completion.

Your logic isn't linear. I think some methylphenidate could help.
 

too larry

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. . . . . . . . . I just assume you are all 40-50 year old males, who either live on disability, or something like that.

. . . . . . . and most of you aren't really anybody you could find on Google or something outside of this website anyways.
If by disability or something like that, you mean worked all my life, you are spot on.

And thank the Good Lord {of your choosing} you can't find me on Google.
 
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