Outdoor security.

Look bro, if I had 25 k to dump on a mutt ID FUCKING MOVE HEY!

TWS said:

What are you gonna do when you catch them ? What if they have guns ? Now you caught someone but you are defenceless ?

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If your talking to me then I'm talking about security.

To answer your question, in my parts when you catch them you could defend yourself
and property. You can also call the po po and they will come
quick to help you. Whether your growing or not, home invasion robberies
is taken very seriously with the cops where I live and when all is said and done you get to
keep your plants. Basically, the cops help secure your grows.

Milovan said:

If your talking to me then I'm talking about security.

To answer your question, in my parts when you catch them you could defend yourself
and property. You can also call the po po and they will come
quick to help you. Whether your growing or not, home invasion robberies
is taken very seriously with the cops where I live and when all is said and done you get to
keep your plants. Basically, the cops help secure your grows.

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If I call the cops they will shoot me thinking I'm the one breaking in. "Look Johnson, this sicko broke in and hung pictures of his family up all over the place. Let's sprinkle some crack on him and get out of here."

I honestly think that setting up video cameras is useless, unless you're trying to catch friends or someone you know. Its a waste of money. If you're not there to protect your crop, what good is the video anyway when the crop is gone? You're not going to use the video in court anyway. Being with the crop is the best defense, I doubt people will want to kill you over a few plants. Stick with sensors/detectors and low-key deterrent weapons, perhaps a dog as well. If I catch people trespassing my property, I walk up with a baseball bat and an angry voice. And as a back up, I have a bear spray, a knife and stun gun, but I don't show these and don't plan to use them until very last resort.

The only way your crop becomes a liability where people may bring guns is when they FIND OUT that you have a crop growing. If you make sure that doesn't happen, and its not an indoor, I am pretty sure that it will not come down to gun exchange so you will not need lethal weapons as a result.

markexpress said:

I honestly think that setting up video cameras is useless, unless you're trying to catch friends or someone you know. Its a waste of money. If you're not there to protect your crop, what good is the video anyway when the crop is gone? You're not going to use the video in court anyway. Being with the crop is the best defense, I doubt people will want to kill you over a few plants. Stick with sensors/detectors and low-key deterrent weapons, perhaps a dog as well. If I catch people trespassing my property, I walk up with a baseball bat and an angry voice. And as a back up, I have a bear spray, a knife and stun gun, but I don't show these and don't plan to use them until very last resort.

The only way your crop becomes a liability where people may bring guns is when they FIND OUT that you have a crop growing. If you make sure that doesn't happen, and its not an indoor, I am pretty sure that it will not come down to gun exchange so you will not need lethal weapons as a result.

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You would be surprised what some people would kill over. Get a pistol bro. They are cheap and effective.

FresnoFarmer said:

You would be surprised what some people would kill over. Get a pistol bro. They are cheap and effective.

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Don't forget, I am in Canada. Gun violence is rare here, especially in the countryside. If anything you can get into more legal trouble here with an illegal weapon than with an assault. I am not interested in applying for a gun!

Oh okay. I get it now........Canadian's have always been so naive.

markexpress said:

I honestly think that setting up video cameras is useless, unless you're trying to catch friends or someone you know. Its a waste of money. If you're not there to protect your crop, what good is the video anyway when the crop is gone? You're not going to use the video in court anyway. Being with the crop is the best defense, I doubt people will want to kill you over a few plants. Stick with sensors/detectors and low-key deterrent weapons, perhaps a dog as well. If I catch people trespassing my property, I walk up with a baseball bat and an angry voice. And as a back up, I have a bear spray, a knife and stun gun, but I don't show these and don't plan to use them until very last resort.

The only way your crop becomes a liability where people may bring guns is when they FIND OUT that you have a crop growing. If you make sure that doesn't happen, and its not an indoor, I am pretty sure that it will not come down to gun exchange so you will not need lethal weapons as a result.

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Bear spray...wouldn't this just piss them off?.

Sunbiz1 said:

Bear spray...wouldn't this just piss them off?.

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Heheh, I don't give a f... LOL. Bear spray makes it easier for me to use the stun gun As a bonus, I'll sound like a crazy psycho so they'll think twice before visiting the area again! And I'll have a good reason to act crazy and pissed, I can just say something along the lines of: "Were you the fuckers that stole my tools a month ago? Now I know what you look like, so get the fuck off my property and don't ever come back again!"

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Heheh, I don't give a f... LOL. Bear spray makes it easier for me to use the stun gun As a bonus, I'll sound like a crazy psycho so they'll think twice before visiting the area again! And I'll have a good reason to act crazy and pissed, I can just say something along the lines of: "Were you the fuckers that stole my tools a month ago? Now I know what you look like, so get the fuck off my property and don't ever come back again!"

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On a side note, never saw 1 single bear during the 3 month summer I spent 250 miles north of lake Superior.

Stomper420 said:

Look bro, if I had 25 k to dump on a mutt ID FUCKING MOVE HEY!

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yeh or just rent a house to turn into a huge grow opertaion lmao 25 gs is so much potential to NOT get caught lol ide be ballin out with 25 k not feeding a damn dog that can get me caught.

winchester sxp

chemicalsmoker said:

Get a trained attack dog (German shepherd) cost between 10-25k somewhat but its worth it

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I'm having mine trained by one of the best schutzhund trainers in America.

markexpress said:

I honestly think that setting up video cameras is useless, unless you're trying to catch friends or someone you know. Its a waste of money. If you're not there to protect your crop, what good is the video anyway when the crop is gone? You're not going to use the video in court anyway. Being with the crop is the best defense, I doubt people will want to kill you over a few plants. Stick with sensors/detectors and low-key deterrent weapons, perhaps a dog as well. If I catch people trespassing my property, I walk up with a baseball bat and an angry voice. And as a back up, I have a bear spray, a knife and stun gun, but I don't show these and don't plan to use them until very last resort.

The only way your crop becomes a liability where people may bring guns is when they FIND OUT that you have a crop growing. If you make sure that doesn't happen, and its not an indoor, I am pretty sure that it will not come down to gun exchange so you will not need lethal weapons as a result.

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motion sensors go off, everyone in the house in every room can glance at a camera and see whats up. then we snatch up what we need and go defend if we must. It's alot nicer to watch your crop from inside the house and to know when someones coming up to your property line than to sit outside in the dark wondering whats out there. Infrared floodlights thats the stuff you need. everythings pitch black outside but your screens are lit up like fucking daylight.

LOL, last year a friend of a friend was held up at gun point. and made to chop and trim his own crop while these fuckers ate lunch and drank his beer. Two days later they leave his house with all his goods. So, this gives you an idea as to what these thieves are capable of around here

One thing that hasn't been mentioned:
http://www.amazon.com/Vigilant-PPS22BL-Emergency-Personal-Keychain/dp/B005E04MK0

Secured to low-test fishing line on the perimeter of the grow...

Most thieves want to be in and out without any noise or confrontation. These things are loud enough to freak em out and in all likelihood they will run. A cheap option to boot.

FresnoFarmer said:

Yall are crazy. I can shoot somebody in front of Walmart if I say he kept punching me in the head and I was scared I would die if he didn't stop. People get shot on the street while trying to jump somebody all the time out here!! They usually just get an "Illegally Possessing a Firearm" charge. Which out here means probation.

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here in ontario its about 3-5 years for possesion of a weapon lol MINIMUM

Fishing line and trail cameras. I'm in Calif. cops will back me up as long as I keep my script up.
And yes they will have to call a ambulance if I get my baseball bat on them and give a firm beating on their head and shoulders..
the thought of them walking with a limp for the rest of their lives just tickles me!!

My dogs do a pretty good job keeping people out of my yard. They also give you a warning when someone is close by.

markexpress said:

I honestly think that setting up video cameras is useless, unless you're trying to catch friends or someone you know. Its a waste of money. If you're not there to protect your crop, what good is the video anyway when the crop is gone? You're not going to use the video in court anyway. Being with the crop is the best defense, I doubt people will want to kill you over a few plants. Stick with sensors/detectors and low-key deterrent weapons, perhaps a dog as well. If I catch people trespassing my property, I walk up with a baseball bat and an angry voice. And as a back up, I have a bear spray, a knife and stun gun, but I don't show these and don't plan to use them until very last resort.

The only way your crop becomes a liability where people may bring guns is when they FIND OUT that you have a crop growing. If you make sure that doesn't happen, and its not an indoor, I am pretty sure that it will not come down to gun exchange so you will not need lethal weapons as a result.

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You'd be surprised how amazing the cameras are, not just for your grow but your home as well. I'm self-employed and work from home so I'm always in the master bedroom working, and right next to me is my 8 channel security system. And if I'm not working I'm playing games or browsing the net in the same room, I pretty much rarely leave the house and if so that's what my wifi feed is for. Now from this one room I can see the driveway, front door, hallway leading to my door/grow, and of course where my outdoor girls were and this has saved me twice from being ripped.

I live on a bit of a hill and there's no window facing my backyard from the master bedroom, only the front yard. Even so my grow was about 100 ft from the back door so having cameras there to see what was going on was very useful. One night, literally just as I was about to switch shifts with wife I notice ch2 move up and to the left so I knew something was wrong. I grabbed my bat and woke everyone in the house up, the wife and brother in law followed with kitchen knives. The best part about the cameras? They likely expected we were asleep and we managed to get pretty close before we were noticed, only because the bat clanked. All the sudden you heard one of them get that scared tone and say "...hey..man.." It was just some punk kids, but they could have stolen my girls had I not been watching my cameras. Plus I knew exactly where they were at (in the dark), if they were armed, and how to react. Where as they are in the dark with cell phone lights and no idea if someone's watching them.

As filled with adrenaline as I was, I'll always remember how casually I put my shoes on that night, it was the strangest thing.