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Kevflores

New Member
Hey everybody. Im new to growing bud in general, but a friend of mine gave me a pot with reggie seedlings. They sprouted but they're all together. Im going to try and put a pic of it tomorrow. My plan is to obviously keep it outdoors. But i dont even know if they'll survive because they're all growing in the same pot! Hoping y'all weed gurus can tell me what i can do, if there's anything i can.
 

Kevflores

New Member
Check it out. This is what im dealing with. For a fact, i know i have to change the soil. But is there still a chance to untangle them all like that? 20200625_085654.jpg20200625_085636.jpg20200625_085628.jpg20200625_085636.jpg
 

GlassJoe

Well-Known Member
Honestly man it only has one at the bottom. Like i said, these plants were given to me like this. I really want to save them though.
Just transplant the whole deal into another pot/bed/the ground. You've got 4 plants so if they live there's a 93.75% chance at least one is a female if they all live. You have to be very diligent about looking for male pollen sacs.
 

JoeBlow5823

Well-Known Member
Just transplant the whole deal into another pot/bed/the ground. You've got 4 plants so if they live there's a 93.75% chance at least one is a female if they all live. You have to be very diligent about looking for male pollen sacs.
75% chance one is female. I just planted 3 reggies that were all male.
 

GlassJoe

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75% chance one is female. I just planted 3 reggies that were all male.
0.5 chance the first one is male * 0.5 the second is also male * 0.5 the third is also male * 0.5 the fourth is also male = 0.0625 * 100%= 6.25% chance all four are male.
 

spek9

Well-Known Member
75% chance one is female. I just planted 3 reggies that were all male.
LOL I just cut down and composted six plants last night because I specifically want a male of the strain. All six female from seed. Planted another six seeds today, solely for a male.

Seems as though I only get male plants from reg seeds when I'm specifically not doing a seed run.
 

JoeBlow5823

Well-Known Member
LOL I just cut down and composted six plants last night because I specifically want a male of the strain. All six female from seed. Planted another six seeds today, solely for a male.

Seems as though I only get male plants from reg seeds when I'm specifically not doing a seed run.
I planted one female just in case none of them turned out to be female. Even going 12/12 from seed, she is looking like she is going to be well worth the time.
 

JoeBlow5823

Well-Known Member
0.5 chance the first one is male * 0.5 the second is also male * 0.5 the third is also male * 0.5 the fourth is also male = 0.0625 * 100%= 6.25% chance all four are male.
Not that simple. There are probability equations that could better explain this than me. No matter how you look at it, If you planted 1,000 seeds, getting strings of 4 females or 4 males would happen frequently. You will even see strings of 5,6,7,8......
 

GlassJoe

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Not that simple. There are probability equations that could better explain this than me. No matter how you look at it, If you planted 1,000 seeds, getting strings of 4 females or 4 males would happen frequently. You will even see strings of 5,6,7,8......
It's not about order, let me explain this in terms of permutations.

With two plants, there are four possible outcomes (where M is male and F is female):
1) MM
2) MF
3) FM
4) FF

Thus, in 1/4 outcomes you get two females, in 2/4 you get one male and one female, and in 1/4 you get two males.You have a 75% chance to get at least one female plant (FF, FM, MF).

With three plants, there are 2^3 = 8 possible outcomes:

1) MMM
2) MMF
3) MFM
4) MFF
5) FMF
6) FMM
7) FFM
8 ) FFF

Thus, in only 1 of 8 permutations do you get all male plants. You chance of getting at least one female plant is 7/8, or 87.5%.

With four plants, there are 2^4 = 16 possible outcomes:

1) MMMM
2) MMMF
3) MMFM
4) MMFF
5) MFMM
6) MFMF
7) MFFM
8 ) MFFF
9) FMMM
10) FMMF
11) FMFM
12) FMFF
13) FFMM
14) FFMF
15) FFFM
16) FFFF

Thus, only in 1 of 16 possible outcomes do you end up with all male plants. Your chance is getting at least one female plant is 15/16, or 93.75%
 

JoeBlow5823

Well-Known Member
It's not about order, let me explain this in terms of permutations.

With two plants, there are four possible outcomes (where M is male and F is female):
1) MM
2) MF
3) FM
4) FF

Thus, in 1/4 outcomes you get two females, in 2/4 you get one male and one female, and in 1/4 you get two males.You have a 75% chance to get at least one female plant (FF, FM, MF).

With three plants, there are 2^3 = 8 possible outcomes:

1) MMM
2) MMF
3) MFM
4) MFF
5) FMF
6) FMM
7) FFM
8 ) FFF

Thus, in only 1 of 8 permutations do you get all male plants. You chance of getting at least one female plant is 7/8, or 87.5%.

With four plants, there are 2^4 = 16 possible outcomes:

1) MMMM
2) MMMF
3) MMFM
4) MMFF
5) MFMM
6) MFMF
7) MFFM
8 ) MFFF
9) FMMM
10) FMMF
11) FMFM
12) FMFF
13) FFMM
14) FFMF
15) FFFM
16) FFFF

Thus, only in 1 of 16 possible outcomes do you end up with all male plants. Your chance is getting at least one female plant is 15/16, or 93.75%
Your not factoring in all the outcomes like fffff or mmmmm or mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Its an equation.
 

GlassJoe

Well-Known Member
Right, but it doesn't matter how many seeds you're choosing from, or the results of any prior seeds or successive seeds. Germinating n seeds is like flipping n coins, where heads represents one sex and tails represents the other. There's a reason you don't see that explanation talking about picking out a sequence of arbitrary length form an infinite number of coins. It doesn't matter, your chance of getting at least one heads (female) from n coins (plants), is 1-(1/2)^n.
 
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