Organic, V-Scrog, Holy Grail OG, OG101, Kali Kandi, XJ-13, 2.5x5x7' tent, 1000w dual

I have a very similar setup, I didnt SCROG as well as you did, being a first timer, I think now that from the beginning I have made the mistake of tucking the branch away too quickly, and so they would stop growing, now I realise more the importance of letting them grow 3 inches over the screen so that when you tuck them further, they still stick out an inch or so... my plants got really bushy and it's taking forever to fill the screen... but I will get there... nice grow that you have there!!

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Flowering Day 2...Nov 10th..

Wow..these girls really are starting there stretch quickly and have grown another 2"+ overnight...!! Especially my OG101's who are performing just like my University Hill's OG's last run and becomming very lanky. Finally my XJ-13 is responding as well and has finally started to stretch towards the lights....such beautiful leaves the XJ-13 has...very velvety soft to the touch and very narrow..this is my first sativa I have ever grown and this one is supposed to be a beast, so can't wait to see how she turns out the next 2 weeks... The Kali Kandi is also doing very well, tons of tops and really starting to bush out and stretch as well, but not as much as tthe others... The Holy grail og has been a pleasure to grow and only continue's to impress me daily!!

Won't be feeding these ladies for at least 3-4 more days because I want to really make sure the fungus gnat's are gone, as well as stress the ladies slightly to help with more resin production...

Other than watching with admiration, just will be letting the girls do there thing...

Not much to report on today, the girls have grown at least 2" overnight....a few days off from watering still but things are looking great and they are really stretching....

Here's the photo's

Nov 13th, Day 5 flower!!! I checked the girls today for the soil moisture level and the soil was still pretty saturated more than 3/4 the pots so I decided to hold off on feeding for another 2-3 days... I am however going to mix up a foliar spray to give the leaves a little boost... :O Distilled water mixed with just a few drops of each : F1 fulvic Acid, H2 Humic Acid, BioWeed (cold pressed seaweed), Earthjuice Micro and Earthjuice Bloom...

I also found out that Advanced Nutrients Rhino Skin is not Organic so I will no longer be using it on this grow... I also am thinking about using Emerald Triangle's Snowstorm again but I haven't found any information stating that it is organic so until I find out for sure, I will not be using it...

I also switched back over to the dual spectrum...running the 400w MH and the 600w HPS (running at 400W).

Here are the photo's for today...

Today is Nov 15th, Day 7 of flowering...

Today I fed the girls, the leaves were looking slighly droopy as well as the soil was dry a good 50% down in the pots. Yesterday mixed up 4 gallon's of distilled water with:

Earthjuice:
Grow 120ml
Bloom 60ml
MetaK 15ml
micro 40ml
catalyst 40ml

General Organics
Cal/Mag 40ml

Advanced Nutrients:
H2 Humic Acid 50ml
F1 Fulvic Acid 40ml
Liquid Carboload 12ml

1 scoop Humboldt Mycos Maximum
2tbsp Organic Molasses
20ml of Naked "blue machine" fruit smoothy
20ml of green Coconut water...

Solution was bubbled for 24hrs.... PH at time of feeding 4.3ph...

The ladies are looking great, my OG101's are so far the biggest stretchers, my holy grail ogs are really filling out and stretching but not as quick as the og's.... my kali kandi is growing but slowly stretching as well as my XJ-13 which is taking into flowering slowly.

The XJ-13 is already showing pistils and preflowers..!!!

Day 9 of flowering!!! Nov 16th... Today the ladies have sprung to life after there nutrient feeding yesterday as well as a foliar spray of humic, fulvic acids as well as some BioWeed (cold pressed seaweed) and some Earthjuice Bloom.. All of the semi-sagging leaves are now standing up strong as well as the ladies seemed to grow another few inches overnight!! I can't believe how many top's are poking thru the screen all over... even my XJ-13 is finally catching up to the rest and branching out quite a bit...

Signs of my first pistils and pre flower's are showing today on my kali kandi, my holy grail og's and my XJ-13...pretty quick to see them in such short amount of time....

I spent some time today re-routing the tops today to spread them out more evenly as well as encourage the secondary and auxillary branches to grow... I also found quite a few newer tops hidden under the canopy so I assisted them toward the light and cleared out some room for them to grow.

I also decided that I really liked the stretch that the HPS light is promoting vs the MH so I decided to throw back in my 400w Ushio HPS instead of my 400w MH... at least until I see good flower development and the stretch has slowed... I really want these babies to get as big as possible...more structure, biggger buds..

You use distilled water?
And you water at a ph of 4.3?

Tophead said:

You use distilled water?
And you water at a ph of 4.3?

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Yes, distilled gives me the best control of what I feed the plant's, I will be investing in a RO system soon but for now distilled is much better than my city water at 8.3ph and over 400ppm. With organics, I also do not want to kill of or harm my bio active soil bennies, so I stay away from city water which has tons of chorine, and chloramine's in it...as well as tons of calciums and other salts that I have no idea in what amounts are present...

Yes, I water at 4.3 or whatever the nutrient solution is at...I am running completely organic soil as well as nutrients and with plenty of added bennies (Mycos Maximum), no need to adjust ph because my soil does it for me... I checked my ph today, one day after feeding and it is sitting right at 6.5-6.7. I also add humic and fulvic acid which are natural chelates, as well as molassases which also acts as a chelate. Chelation basicly open's the "window" of absorbance of macro and micro nutrients in the soil... It allows the plant to uptake outside of the PH soil charts that you see posted on these forums.. That is the basic answer to the question...

Icemud said:

Yes, distilled gives me the best control of what I feed the plant's, I will be investing in a RO system soon but for now distilled is much better than my city water at 8.3ph and over 400ppm. With organics, I also do not want to kill of or harm my bio active soil bennies, so I stay away from city water which has tons of chorine, and chloramine's in it...as well as tons of calciums and other salts that I have no idea in what amounts are present...

Yes, I water at 4.3 or whatever the nutrient solution is at...I am running completely organic soil as well as nutrients and with plenty of added bennies (Mycos Maximum), no need to adjust ph because my soil does it for me... I checked my ph today, one day after feeding and it is sitting right at 6.5-6.7. I also add humic and fulvic acid which are natural chelates, as well as molassases which also acts as a chelate. Chelation basicly open's the "window" of absorbance of macro and micro nutrients in the soil... It allows the plant to uptake outside of the PH soil charts that you see posted on these forums.. That is the basic answer to the question...

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Gonna journal this so I dont forget to dig futher. Thanks for the info!! Props!

Those Holy Grail Og are really True Og its a bomb strain where did you get it? Nice grow by the way!!

HungryMan420 said:

Those Holy Grail Og are really True Og its a bomb strain where did you get it? Nice grow by the way!!

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How do you know ? I have tried to find info on Holy Grail OG and haven't found anything besides its Elite's cut and a bunch of people saying its the dankest... but no genetic info I could find...do share..

Day 9 of Flowering!!

So far a lot of pistil and pre-flower development on the girls as they continue to stretch upward. Not much besides photos to post today! I rerouted many of the branches and tops to provide better coverage as well as help plan out the tent as they grow. I also supercropped one of my holy grail og's to see what would happen and within hours she had already turned upward!! Impressive!

Here are the photo's for today.

Post for yesterday and today, Nov 19th, Day 11 of flowering

All 4 of my strains now are showing flowers with many white pistol's which makes me extremely happy.

HOLY GRAIL OG: are really showing good bud and auxillary bud formation and continue to stretch quite a bit and really have tons of tops and side branches...Yesterday I supercropped about 4 of the larger cola's to help form large auxillary branches as well as multiple tops out of the main cola, within, 1 day the tops have already turned back to the light, as well as the lower bud sites have shown increase in growth as well.

OG101's: These being the runt's of the bunch all through veg, now you would never know...lol They so far have stretched the tallest, large distance between the branches and nodes, but also has shown strong flower development as well as tons of side branching... I accidently broke the largest branch off when attempting to supercrop it yesterday, but thru it in some distilled water with Olivia's cloning solution to see what happens...

XJ-13...this one is such a slow developer, not quite sure why she didn''t want to get very tall, but just hasn't quite caught up to the others, even though she is flowering just like the rest, hardly any stretch yet which is odd...maybe sativa's are like that, but is very different from anything else im growing...tons of budsites so I still believe she will be a very heavy yeilder, we will see..

Kali Kandi: The Kali Kandi is also not stretching as much as I would expect for a OG cross, but also has much tighter node development than my OG101's do. One very large multiple node top is growing as well as the lower branches are really starting to shoot up to the light and form flowers...hopefully this one will be a good yeilder, but so far not so sure...grows weird, almost like a vine...

So yesterday I supercropped quite a few of the tops, to help form more budsites as well as encourage hormonal flow into the main cola's. Since yesterday all of the supercropped branches have responded very well and all have turned upward again, as well as the lower budsites growiing much stronger than the non-supercropped ones..

Fungus gnats are still in my tent, not many, but a few, and I know it can get out of hand, so will be getting some paper plates to put on top of my pots, as well as giving a good peppermint tea, neem spraying, and following up with a feeding of Bti next watering...Pains in the grasses they are...

Otherwise everything is going great...can't wait to see how beatiful they turn out...

Yesterday's photo's, suppercropping accident...oops



Today's Photo's for day 11 flowering

Lookin sweet dude.

Today was Day 12 of Flowering and everything looks great. The soil was a little dry and I was getting ready to water tomorrow but we were blessed with a nice pacific rainstorm today, so I collected about 4-5 gallon's of rainwater and gave the girls nothing but natural rainwater for there feeding. I was curious what the PH of the rainwater was and bingo...right at 6.2...wow!!

All of the ladies now are showing strong bud development and really look happy and healthy. Still having a problem with the damn fungus gnats, dont want to go away. I decided that before watering I would steam the top 2" of soil to kill off any living larvae and eggs as well as after watering gave the top of the soil a good spray of neem/tobacco/peppermint/habenero tea... Tomorrow I am going to crush up some mosquito dunks and dust the top of each of the pots.
If this doesn't work then I will probably go ppick up some azatrol and more yellow sticky cards and stay vigilant. I noticed that very few are hatching and there are not many larvae in the soil compared to the untreated soil last grow.

Here are the photo's for today.

Back from my Thanksgiving vacation!!! Hope everyone enjoyed the holidays!! Wow, when I opened my tent I was really impressed, all 6 girls have really started to show strong flower production!! All of the leaves look really healthy, they must have loved that rainwater I fed them!!

I spent some time defoliating the yellowing lower canopy and dead leaves that have begun to kill themselfs off because of lack of adiquite lighting. Other than that tomorrow I will be giving them a full regiment of nutrients.

I also switched back to my 400w MH setup with my 600w HPS for a dual spectrum effect and will most likely keep this in for 2 weeks, and then switching it back out every other 2 weeks until harvest.

I am so impressed on how things are going and this should be a really good yeild!!

Today is Day 20 of Flowering!! Nov 28th...

Today the RH is still very low, around 24% today so the ladies are still curling upwards to "sweat" however otherwise looking very perky. I have my humidifier on full blast so hopefully I will be able to raise up that RH but its pretty dry in the air so we will see.

Today the Ladies got a haircut... I did a medium/heavy defoliation and lolipopping to the girls to help better airflow between the lower canopy and the upper canopy as well as to get more light to the lower budsites. I removed a good plastic grocery bag worth of leaves and now there seems to be much better light penetration into the lower foliage as well as much more space for the ladies to breathe. Hopefully this will also help concentrate the growing "strength" to the upper budsites for fuller and denser bud formation.

Other than that the ladies are looking great today!!!

DAY 22 Flowering!!! Nov 30th..

Took a look at the ladies today and everything is looking really good. With the addition of my humidifier my RH is sitting around 32% which is still lower than I would like but due to the really dry air we are getting, its about as high as I can bring it...The leave's don't look as stressed today, I will put some bowls of water in the tent later to help bring it up even higher. Temps are 73F at Top of canopy and 81F below canopy.

Trichome's are now forming on all 4 strains and good solid bud development is taking place. The soil is still very saturated so watering won't be for at least a good 3 days or more depending on how fast they suck up the water.

When looking at my 2 OG101's, so far they are pretty even, (one under HPS, one under MH) The HPS side seems to be a little faster developing than the MH side, however the MH side seems a little more frosty than the HPS side...We will see the difference more I believe as flowering gets closer to harvest..


I'm watching my Holy Grail OG close because I noticed some burn't tips of the leafs as well as a few browning tips, which I believe may be due to Mag deficiency... I have been using quite a bit of General Organic's Cal/Mag which I have been using on the Heavy feeding schedule...None of the other plant's have been showing this sign, hopefully it will work itself out, but if not, I may switch back to my non-organic Botanicare Cal/Mag because it seemed to work so well last time, however, this is last resort, because I don't want to add anything non-organic...


Here are the photo's for today..

I've pulled up a chair to watch this grow....

Happy Daze.

Very nice man!!!

Just keep us informed!!!