Wattzzup
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So I’m wasting my time checking it?
Organic growing advice
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PadawanWarrior
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You can give it EWC tea anytime. It's more for microbes than adding nutrients.
Polyuro
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I think it’s misunderstood. If it is done over the whole grow it can tell u about changes. Those changes may be telling u to add of nutrients, yes but it could mean more micros, fungi, bacteria are needed. If only soluble liquids are used then runoff will definitely give u great specific nut info. But that’s basically hydro.
Wattzzup
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So here’s my scenario. I used roots organic to get me started. It’s 5 gallon pot with an auto. About 20-25 days in I know it’s going to need something. So I added my small amount of jobes organic and watered. Watching my runoff drop every watering should let me know how the nutrients are being depleted by my plant. Or is this not accurate?
PadawanWarrior
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Some nutrients are broken down faster than others. As an example guano is a prettty hot amendment which will break down faster than something like oyster shell flour or fish bone meal.
Like Poly said, runoff isn't a great way to check the soil pH. It can give you an idea, but it can also be misleading. If you wanna know the true soil pH, a reliable pen works well. You can do a slurry test too, but it probably won't be as reliable.
Polyuro
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Which roots organic product? which jobes product? Both would be nonliquid nutrients which means runoff can’t detect nutz that haven’t broken down, correct? @Richard Drysift says they take about 2 weeks give or take to break down. They also are packed with mycorrhizae and bacteria which is great.
If your base medium didn’t have enough nutz then u may need more nutz.. It is harder to over feed organic soil over hydro because the plant uptakes nutz as it wishes to.
Wattzzup
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I’m using roots organic soil. After 14 days I added a small handful Jobes 2-5-3 for tomatoes. About 3 tablespoons to my 5 gallon pot. I wasn’t sure how many waterings it would take or how available the nutrients would be. This is my first all organic grow.
Then just today I added another dose about the same amount as a few purple stems are starting to show up. The last does was 5-9. So 3 weeks give or take
Then just today I added another dose about the same amount as a few purple stems are starting to show up. The last does was 5-9. So 3 weeks give or take
PadawanWarrior
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You might get an idea of how potent the soil is, but you'll have no idea how much of each nutrient is remaining. So it makes no sense why you would even check it to me. Just watch the plants and listen to what they're asking for.
The only one talking about TDS is you man. The OP was talking about pH before.
Polyuro
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That sounds fine. Do your plants look healthy?
Adding jobes spikes right before flipping to 12/12 will ride u out till the end. those break down slower though.
If u have multiple plants, experiment. Soil is forgiving. Especially after the plant has established itself in healthy soil, which everything that I have seen in your medium is rockin’ dude. Bacteria, fungi, micros. Your only missing bokashi mycelium that I can see but I’m not the smartest person on this matter lol.
Also, the genetics play a role here. Some like it hotter and will want more and others won’t and will not uptake as much which means more nutz for the next round. You probably already know that though. Good luck
PadawanWarrior
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You don't need bokashi to grow mycelium. Malted barley works too, but nothing like bokashi.
I've been using Grokashi, and it's crazy the fungal network that develops on top.
Polyuro
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My bad your right. I use grokashi too. But they are all different.
PadawanWarrior
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Here's one of my favorite amendments.
BuildASoil Craft Blend - Nutrient Pack
BuildASoil Craft Blend started with a big workshop full of the best and cleanest soil amendments available. I quickly became spoiled and would use all of the BuildASoil ingredients together and in different combinations that aren't available here online. After discussing re-amending with a buddy...
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PadawanWarrior
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Did you just buy the BAS Craft Blend?
My sons birthday was on May 2nd so he picked the Cheescake Factory for his B-day cake. It wasn't cheap, but it was good as fuck.
Polyuro
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Yes, just bought it. The amount of ingredients looks amazing like a huge Cheesecake Factory menu lol. Would u add anything like neem, etc?
PadawanWarrior
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It has Karanja cake in it which is similar.
Karanja Cake - Ahimsa | Karanja Oil Cake For Sale | BuildASoil
Karanja Oil Cake is the residue obtained from Karanja seed kernels which have been crushed to extract the oil. Rich in N-P-K, it is an excellent organic fertilizer.
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I do add other stuff to it usually, but the Craft Blend is great on its own too.
thanks brother I went to check the runoff that i left the pots in and they’ve taken it all in overnight and the plants look more vibrant now. Thanks for the advice people and look after yourselves in these weird times
