SouthernSoil*
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Lol you must have one bad ass fan bro
Organic Feeding 101.
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SouthernSoil*
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Thank you for P, it was definitely straight form because i broke it down finer in a blender lol, we will have to see what happens though
Im worried about bugs no doubt, i was looking at lint filters that they use on the clothes drier machines but seems to be hard to find, need something thin that allows good airflow while still catching most of the finer stuff.
Pattahabi
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Well, I hope your soil works out for you. Let us know how it goes.
If you go to the hydrostore and hand them your wallet, they will find you some kind of 'cannabis' bug filter. I'm wondering if there's not a better solution. I know I have a hell of a time with venting. Currently, I'm pulling the hot air from the top of the room, through the carbon filter, through the hoods, and then exhausting out. This, and another carbon exhausting straight out, pulling hot air, keeps me good to go. Keep in mind I'm running several lights.
Another option might be to pull from outside, run through the hoods, and vent back outside. I'm thinking no matter what you use for an inline filter, it's going to significantly restrict air.
If none of these ideas work, I have an idea for an intake into a bigger box with a filter, and pulling from the other end of the box. ;; shrugs ;;
Peace!
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SouthernSoil*
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Thank you bud, will definitely let you know, im also pulling from a carbon filter and pushing through the hood to outside, only using a 250w for veg & 600w for flowering, going to make some calls tomorrow hopefully some shop has stock of this filter
Peace !
SouthernSoil*
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Managed to find one and took another from my pc in the meanwhile, both kandi kush & the bag seed have germinated in my seedling mix of peat, perlite & ewc, not good news for the church & jack flash though
AllenHaze
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You can use panty hose to cover you're duct. Works great. They're cheap, replaceable and easy to find. GL
AllenHaze
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You can use panty hose for your filter. Cheap, replaceable and easy to find. Also, careful exhausting you're grow room to the outside because all that hot air will be easy to pick up with IR. A commonly overlooked detail. Like the RF that is emitted from many ballasts which has resulted in visits from cable technicians for some people. GL 
SouthernSoil*
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I was thinking of panty hose lol probably not the best but regarding price & availability its a really good alternative no doubt, thank you for that man.You can use panty hose for your filter. Cheap, replaceable and easy to find. Also, careful exhausting you're grow room to the outside because all that hot air will be easy to pick up with IR. A commonly overlooked detail. Like the RF that is emitted from many ballasts which has resulted in visits from cable technicians for some people. GL
Im currently exhausting outside there's mosquito screen about a foot before the exhaust hole, im not sure if they scan around here though, does it look obvious from IR scanning or could it look like something else ?
Ive briefly read about the RF produced by ballasts, got me worried here man, would be awesome if you could explain a little more on the IR & RF, Peace
AllenHaze
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No problem. The heat that is exhausting from your house would have to be a lot I'm sure. Not sure how much exactly. Strong fans that are blowing hot air out and away for your house would be pretty obvious I'd think. Maybe tap into a chimney vent or exhaust into another room of your house? if it is winter you could probably get away with exhausting out an attic (heat is on, heat rises) It all depend on your situation, you could be fine.I was thinking of panty hose lol probably not the best but regarding price & availability its a really good alternative no doubt, thank you for that man.
Im currently exhausting outside there's mosquito screen about a foot before the exhaust hole, im not sure if they scan around here though, does it look obvious from IR scanning or could it look like something else ?
Ive briefly read about the RF produced by ballasts, got me worried here man, would be awesome if you could explain a little more on the IR & RF, Peace
The RF thing has spooked a lot of people over the years. I can say personally I have had the cable guy show up at my house telling me that he knows for sure the rf leak is coming from my home. He wanted to come in. luckily I was able to talk him away and after looking online I was able to fix the problem and prevent any future visits.
Ballasts put out a ton of RF. Some ballast have no or very weak RF shielding around the assembly so all that RF leaks out everywhere. Cable companies and phone companies get fined for RF leaks in there areas so cable technicians (I'm sure there is a more technical title ) get paid to drive around and look for these RF leaks. It is literally their job to find your ballast (in a sense) Many other things leak RF too ie: a loose cable wire can give a false reading to the technician. Rf can also interfere with your tv or your neighbors. You can check to see if you have a leak by using an AM radio. You can google it and you'll find other threads about it. (tip: if you want to look on a specific site like this one for example type this first - Site:rollitup.org or Site:[enter other site here] ) What I did was tighten any connections, shorten any extension cords as much as I could, build a faraday cage around my ballast (prob unnecessary) and run my lights at night (they generally don't look for leaks at night in my area) GL.
SouthernSoil*
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Thank you for the informative post man, im only running 1 x 6" inline fan which is set on level 1 so its cruising at a very chilled speed, i wouldnt say alot of heat is coming out of the window at the moment but with the 600w there will be more, couldnt they mistake it for a 3 some though ? Lol : )No problem. The heat that is exhausting from your house would have to be a lot I'm sure. Not sure how much exactly. Strong fans that are blowing hot air out and away for your house would be pretty obvious I'd think. Maybe tap into a chimney vent or exhaust into another room of your house? if it is winter you could probably get away with exhausting out an attic (heat is on, heat rises) It all depend on your situation, you could be fine.
The RF thing has spooked a lot of people over the years. I can say personally I have had the cable guy show up at my house telling me that he knows for sure the rf leak is coming from my home. He wanted to come in. luckily I was able to talk him away and after looking online I was able to fix the problem and prevent any future visits.
Ballasts put out a ton of RF. Some ballast have no or very weak RF shielding around the assembly so all that RF leaks out everywhere. Cable companies and phone companies get fined for RF leaks in there areas so cable technicians (I'm sure there is a more technical title ) get paid to drive around and look for these RF leaks. It is literally their job to find your ballast (in a sense) Many other things leak RF too ie: a loose cable wire can give a false reading to the technician. Rf can also interfere with your tv or your neighbors. You can check to see if you have a leak by using an AM radio. You can google it and you'll find other threads about it. (tip: if you want to look on a specific site like this one for example type this first - Site:rollitup.org or Site:[enter other site here] ) What I did was tighten any connections, shorten any extension cords as much as I could, build a faraday cage around my ballast (prob unnecessary) and run my lights at night (they generally don't look for leaks at night in my area) GL.
I did a quick search and alot of posts came up about the RF problem of technicians visiting, ill definitely take a look at the AM radio test man, currently im using a 250w magnetic ballast for veg & then im switching over to my electronic ballast 600w for flower, this is my 600w ballast
http://www.accendoelectronics.com/dhid-retrofit.shtml
By short cable do you mean even the cable running to the light ? My cable from the ballast to the wall plug is very short, running my lights at night aswell but ill check how to test for any leaks, appreciate it bud, thing is i have a pc, hub & ups about 3 foot from the ballast should that be fine ? Respect
AllenHaze
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I couldn't really say about whether or not it would affect your other electronics. I know it can interfere with cable signals. Yea, even that long cord from the ballast to the light will emit RF but there is not much you can do about that short of buying a shorter cable if you can find it so I'd focus on the other cables. I might be a little extra paranoid for the first few week or months just to get a feel for how the neighborhood responds to your grow not so much in the obvious ways either (like RF, IR, maybe the use extra use of deodorizers will arouse suspicion in neighbors) That's me though. I'm a little extra cautious sometimes lol. GL man. 
SouthernSoil*
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everything seemed fine when i was running it but ill definitely keep a look out and do the test, thank you for the heads up man i appreciate it, its always better to be cautious i know what you mean. PeaceI couldn't really say about whether or not it would affect your other electronics. I know it can interfere with cable signals. Yea, even that long cord from the ballast to the light will emit RF but there is not much you can do about that short of buying a shorter cable if you can find it so I'd focus on the other cables. I might be a little extra paranoid for the first few week or months just to get a feel for how the neighborhood responds to your grow not so much in the obvious ways either (like RF, IR, maybe the use extra use of deodorizers will arouse suspicion in neighbors) That's me though. I'm a little extra cautious sometimes lol. GL man.
greasemonkeymann
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not too crazy, its a 6" vortex, rated at 449 cfm, it doesn't get too hot in there, and I have my lights on at night. I admit the beefy engine filter I got was from a customer's truck, he was upgrading to a K&N filter, so I got the old one, and i'm not sure the volume that a 5.8l v8 gobbles, but it breathes perfectly fine for my vortex (which I love, I have over 100,000 hrs of usage on it, works as good as new)
SouthernSoil*
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Those vortex's push ! my 6" is only like 350 cfm, you made a awesome plan cause that filter must keep your grow insanely clean bro !
Wanted to ask a question regarding the 5 gallon/20litre pots that are cooking, i want to add some of the lacto bacillus serum that i made, should i just dilute it with water & give each pot about half a gallon ? Or should i bubble the lacto b with fish fert, molasses or ewc ?
Any short instruction will be awesome : ) Thank you
Wanted to ask a question regarding the 5 gallon/20litre pots that are cooking, i want to add some of the lacto bacillus serum that i made, should i just dilute it with water & give each pot about half a gallon ? Or should i bubble the lacto b with fish fert, molasses or ewc ?
Any short instruction will be awesome : ) Thank you
SouthernSoil*
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well the final stage of making it is anaerobic, the first stage is aerobic
greasemonkeymann
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hell, I got a 12" that does almost 1200cfm, but I that one is overkill, I had that one running with my three 600w and I thought it was gonna suck in neighborhood cats and wild squirrels. I had that one on my room and you could feel the vacuum with your eardrums it was nuts..it just sits in my garage, course I got it for free Been thinking about building a big greenhouse and I think it'll work nicely for keeping it cool.
jackblaster
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Of course, its only just before reading this I post my question!
Nice thread..
Nice thread..
Yodaweed
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I have 2 brew recipe's that I use , one is for veg one is for flower
VEG: 3 gallons R/O water, 3 cups Ancient Forest Humus, 3 cups Earthworm Castings, Peruvian Bird Buano 3 tablespoons, Mexican Bat Guano 3 tablespoons, 1/2 cup of molasses. Bubble 24 hours with a strong air stone
Flower: 3 gallons R/O water, 3 cups ancient forest humus , 3 cups earthworm castings, 3 table spoons Indonesian bat guano, 1/2 cup molasses. Bubble 24 hours with a strong air stone.
VEG: 3 gallons R/O water, 3 cups Ancient Forest Humus, 3 cups Earthworm Castings, Peruvian Bird Buano 3 tablespoons, Mexican Bat Guano 3 tablespoons, 1/2 cup of molasses. Bubble 24 hours with a strong air stone
Flower: 3 gallons R/O water, 3 cups ancient forest humus , 3 cups earthworm castings, 3 table spoons Indonesian bat guano, 1/2 cup molasses. Bubble 24 hours with a strong air stone.
Indian Spices
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hello
I really begin to like this Forum.
To have a plant that is thriving and happy, you need to understand the complex relationship between your plant and the soil.
Back in the days, we weren’t going organically because of a trend. It was like.. we had nothing else to deal with in the first place…
In my country, today, you can get really easy to all that bottled nutes and stuff.. and with internetshops… you probably can get all the ingredients on your „must have“ list… but that is not really my way.. you know.. its not just about the ingredients (if they are organic or not).. it is about the whole…
Please… this should not be seen as an attack to some.. just as a reminder You know, I am a happy man and I wouldn’t attack someone who has other thinking and that.. we are all able to discuss and maybe.. I can enlighten some on that road.
I live far away from any source of bat guano.. to ship it to me looks like a waste of transport.. I can easily source some other ingredient, which I can buy in my local store. The effects are nearly identical. so I am trying to use my resources thoughtful
BUT … I have some bat guano on my shelf… but be aware.. and do not overdue it.. maybe thats my point of my speak.
Earlier.. we were mixing our own soil. I see it is a need of todays grower to do it also.. some stay with their bottles… but others go the oldschool way
We didn’t have fancy stuff… we would blend our soil with good old compost.. with some animal poop, lime and that was it.
I had to laid down growing for a few years, which was really sad..
But now I am able to cultivate medicine again and my patients and I are very happy
What I use at the moment are following ingredients:
good base soil (peat, ewc, perlite mix) and I add:
more ewc
more perlite (not too much, though)
bat guano (I actually will replace it with high P chicken poop)
dolomite
rock dust
mycorrhiza
alfalfa meal
aloe powder or fresh aloe juice
kelp meal (rarely, but its good)
blackstrap molasses
mmmm I think thats it…
my local grow store guy have his „secret“ nutrient line. Its a mix of organic stuff combined with minerals. Although I am for the organic way, its the first time I will try some „bottled“ nutes.
I really begin to like this Forum.
To have a plant that is thriving and happy, you need to understand the complex relationship between your plant and the soil.
Back in the days, we weren’t going organically because of a trend. It was like.. we had nothing else to deal with in the first place…
In my country, today, you can get really easy to all that bottled nutes and stuff.. and with internetshops… you probably can get all the ingredients on your „must have“ list… but that is not really my way.. you know.. its not just about the ingredients (if they are organic or not).. it is about the whole…
Please… this should not be seen as an attack to some.. just as a reminder
You know, I am a happy man and I wouldn’t attack someone who has other thinking and that.. we are all able to discuss and maybe.. I can enlighten some on that road. I live far away from any source of bat guano.. to ship it to me looks like a waste of transport.. I can easily source some other ingredient, which I can buy in my local store. The effects are nearly identical. so I am trying to use my resources thoughtful
BUT … I have some bat guano on my shelf… but be aware.. and do not overdue it.. maybe thats my point of my speak.
Earlier.. we were mixing our own soil. I see it is a need of todays grower to do it also.. some stay with their bottles… but others go the oldschool way
We didn’t have fancy stuff… we would blend our soil with good old compost.. with some animal poop, lime and that was it.
I had to laid down growing for a few years, which was really sad..
But now I am able to cultivate medicine again and my patients and I are very happy
What I use at the moment are following ingredients:
good base soil (peat, ewc, perlite mix) and I add:
more ewc
more perlite (not too much, though)
bat guano (I actually will replace it with high P chicken poop)
dolomite
rock dust
mycorrhiza
alfalfa meal
aloe powder or fresh aloe juice
kelp meal (rarely, but its good)
blackstrap molasses
mmmm I think thats it…
my local grow store guy have his „secret“ nutrient line. Its a mix of organic stuff combined with minerals. Although I am for the organic way, its the first time I will try some „bottled“ nutes.