Opium Poppy or Papaver Somniferum Questions

Sinsay

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Shouldnt Opium poppy or Papaver somniferum questions be under marijuana as they are both Opiates ? & not under hallucinatory substances

rusmokingyet since when is weed an opiate? so your triping smoking weed

DarthD3vl I wish mj was an opiate. so your triping smoking weed too i take it Lucky you

I get a warm sense of well being like a opiate A mild one but one none the less

I know its listed by the law as a hallucinogen
but have you ever triped smoking weed ? or does it induce sleep and alleviate pain ?
why do i disagree with hallucinogen
because hallucinogens are not habit forming ever meet someone who ate acid shroom other psychedelics everyday ? ever get a warm sense of well being from thoses drugs ?

wiki.answers.com says ill save you sometime but look if you like i dont believe much of what people tell me I
look up facts myself
Answer: last guy: No THC is THC, the chemical found in marijuana. An opiate is a form of herion such as morphine or oxycotin.

pip313: Technically yes because it has activity at opiate receptors, demerol is an "opiate" but is fully synthetic with no structural simularity to anything the poppy plant produces. No one questions demeral being an opiate thc has the same quality's (again activity at the opiate receptors , at least the mu receptor)


o·pi·ate
Medical Dictionary
1 opi·ate definition
1 : a drug (as morphine, heroin, and codeine) containing or derived from opium and tending to induce sleep and to alleviate pain




opiate definition

Function: adj
1 : of, relating to, or being opium or an opium derivative
2 : of, relating to, binding, or being an opiate < opiate receptors> <---------------------------- right here honey
 

Sinsay

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one more thing on the 1st guys wiki.answers
No THC is THC, the chemical found in marijuana. Right off the bat he sounds like he knows what hes talking about eh? what a mind
An opiate is a form of herion such as morphine or oxycotin.
one the 3 stated one is man made The other two are from the same dam plant
You 3 should expand our minds with a book on your vast knowledge of drugs & their effects
eh ?
 

Sinsay

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wasnt sure if you was joking about being 15 or not but i didnt find it funny in any way so i reported your post
Im not sure they started the book yet perhaps you could speed them along on it before you go
 

weasels911

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I'm tripping off of weed too, you are missing out!

Even though it effects mu-opioid receptors, THC doesn't produce a comparable high to any opiate/opioid imo.

This section is for everything but marijuana, not just hallucinogens.
 

Sinsay

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I said mild form & yes its not comparable to herion morphine or oxycotin agreed or i wouldnt do it
Guess i am miss`in out I`ll to inform friends the rest of the worlds tripin balls on this stuff Im sure they`ll be shocked
Oh i c
This section is for everything but marijuana, not just hallucinogens. good answer :) ty
 

high|hgih

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Im not understandign this post at all.. Maybe I'm just baked. But no matter how baked I am I know for a fact that weed is NOT an opiate. Whatever the definition says its not considered an opiate by anyone, is not addictive in any way, does not derive from a poppy, hell I dont even think opiate is a schedule one along with marijuana unless its just classified as heroin or something..
 

weasels911

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Don't just inform your friends, show them!
Make some brownies with no less than an oz. in the batch, then come back and say you don't trip off of thc.
 

Sinsay

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oh you know for a fact that weed is NOT an opiate. Whatever the definition says its not considered an opiate by anyone, is not addictive in any way, i c wow i feel so enlighten by you wisdom & your vast knowledge of drugs I can see you research everybody you put in your body to the fullest Your knowledge of the workings of the brain are truly mind blowing
You`ve changed my mind on the matter
ty so much
& one more thing nobody said it was a
derive from the poppy in this post anyway plus you are completely baked dipshit :) would you like yo yo to play with or maybe a red ball ? mmmm a red ball ??? dont that sound fun weasels 911
 

Sinsay

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cool brownies sound good You make me some & after ive ate them Ill tell you if i trip or not Chop Chop Im waiting
 

Sinsay

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Ive smoked Thai stick before & not tripped We made 3 runs for pizza before taking a long nap
But didnt trip I guess if you ate a OZ you could but 180 dollars for a
premium marijuana buds of seedless Sounds a lot of cash try a hit of microdot for 5 dollars trip & tell me marijuana makes you trip :) or get busy making me thoses brownies :D
 

weasels911

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That is all completely beside the point. It sure is an expensive trip, but some of them are priceless. Being from a plant that you said yourself you use everyday, it's a shame you don't know its full potential. Point I am making is that thc is psychedelic and hallucinogenic, but you aren't going to get such effects unless you up your dosage.

I am well aware of the cheaper options available. I can get a very similar experience to a high dose of thc from synthetic cannabinoids. They actually go a bit above and beyond for a fraction of the price. And this DOC I'm on right now....amazing! And Sooo much cheaper than acid.... Not that I have anything against lsd :D
 

Sinsay

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from synthetic cannabinoids. You aint even smoking weed & telling me how too Man you take dip shit to a new level
 

high|hgih

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:p Im just sticking with my gut and saying weed isn't an opiate it works on different recepters.. I'm not 100 percent sure on how thats all classified, but I am pretty sure weeds not an opiate. And yes if I wasnt so baked Id be arguing more thats for sure! lol
 

weasels911

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I never said that I don't smoke weed. Why can't I enjoy both????

I only mentioned synthetic cannabinoids (cheap) because in my experience they compare to high doses of thc (expensive), which you don't seem to think is trip material. You won't get these effects smoking your normal amount, you need to orally consume a much larger dose for it to take effect, but is filled with visual perception altering hallucinations and much more. I am speaking from experience, and yes it can be expensive, but is a much more worthwhile experience than spending too much at a bar and not being able to remember a thing.

Also, please no more insults and personal attacks, you are damaging my fragile emotions. :sad:
Where is a mod when you need one? :)
 

Sinsay

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My insults and personal attacks are a effect of your making up your own statements in your head At no point did i ever say "Being from a plant that you said yourself you use everyday " also My mom passed a few years ago & now its up to me to pay for the farm My time for play is over Soon Ill have my bike back on the road & ill have more money but not for OZ of pot brownies Ill be saving for the winter higher heating bills A car break I smoke about 5-10 joints a week with friends or i should say they smoke with me fall Ill payem back with my crops mushrooms toad dmt mushrooms I only take in all nature stuff I can grow or make myself As the full potential of my drugs no no you asked for no more insults and personal attacks a simple request That i can do :) but be leave you what like Lifes short injoy it to the fullest someday the worlds going to ask a lot more of you be ready to face its challenges Lets move on to something else
Man party on party safe
 

high|hgih

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I never said that I don't smoke weed. Why can't I enjoy both????

I only mentioned synthetic cannabinoids (cheap) because in my experience they compare to high doses of thc (expensive), which you don't seem to think is trip material. You won't get these effects smoking your normal amount, you need to orally consume a much larger dose for it to take effect, but is filled with visual perception altering hallucinations and much more. I am speaking from experience, and yes it can be expensive, but is a much more worthwhile experience than spending too much at a bar and not being able to remember a thing.

Also, please no more insults and personal attacks, you are damaging my fragile emotions.

Where is a mod when you need one?
Plus, it keeps your tolerance at a good level like you could live a week off the synthetics then go back to weed and your tolerance is waayyy down and you get as high as a 10 year old again :D
 
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