Opioid epidemic is caused by big business take over of the Gov.

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
In the 60's & 70's it was sleeping pills and speed pills....Placidyl, Reds, rainbows, Quaaludes - etc, etc, etc.
We were schooled all over about how bad heroin is and "Do you want to be a junkie and have you life controlled by a drug?" Where did that go?

The feds stepped in and forced the drug companies to discontinue manufacture of most of these. It includes easy access forms of pain meds and diet drugs....

Now we have this epidemic of opioids and they do what? No more then run around in circles and point fingers. Uneducated and purposeful statements on Cannabis being the cause to deflect from the real problem....Has become almost a daily happening....

When we invaded Afghanistan. We removed the Taliban from power. Bad folks for sure. They did not allow growing poppies though. It's against the idea that you do no harm to others....We walk in and had no plan to replace the way people made a living....The no poppies rule was gone and the people went back to do what they knew how to make money. We squashed everything else for the rural folk.

Now we have a world wide heroin epidemic. New junkies fueled by starting on Opioid pain meds that were prescribed or obtained illegal, with no real control or clear way to wean off those that needed it....

Drug companies still making billions off of sales, many of those illegal!

All the bluster and hot air and nothing really gets done! They sure can't offend the big pharma as they send the politico's big money in donations.....

It's just another sign that the Government is owned and operated by big money! They don't really care! it's just something to keep us all afraid.....It's not going to change.....

It's time to throw out the politicians and start over! Change all those rules about corporate donations and lobbying. No more "super pac's".....It's time we made the politicians work for US and not for big business and the party!

Stand up to big pharma and say,,,That's enough! We are going to regulate where those drugs go. Who buys them in bulk and tighten the prescription laws and provide for those who may need to be carefully withdrawn from their use.....You had all better start looking to find new and less addictive methods for pain control...We're going to limit manufacture and slowly phase these things out.....

Do I sound pissed? A friends son, just died from a car accident under the influence of unprescribed Oxy use.
This was a good kid. Always helping, Happy, friendly, outgoing.....Never had a legal problem.....The cops better find the source before we do!

What a fucking waste of life!

In the 60's and 70's....The government had the BALLS to step up and do something about it!

Now it's "screw the "people"! "We might piss off that big money source of campaign funds.."

And some of you idiots, elected an egotistical oligarch for Pres. If you really think he's going to help you...You're fucking deluded!
 

oswizzle

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Pain Pill epidemic can be directly correlated with the invasion of Afghanistan ... CEO Zionist owned Purdue Pharma aka Oxycontin along with Abbvie and Abbott (zionist)aka Vicodin creators ...

Poison America and take control of the Goym is the only way
 

UncleBuck

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Pain Pill epidemic can be directly correlated with the invasion of Afghanistan ... CEO Zionist owned Purdue Pharma aka Oxycontin along with Abbvie and Abbott (zionist)aka Vicodin creators ...

Poison America and take control of the Goym is the only way
did a jew fuck your wife or something?
 

SneekyNinja

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Pain Pill epidemic can be directly correlated with the invasion of Afghanistan ... CEO Zionist owned Purdue Pharma aka Oxycontin along with Abbvie and Abbott (zionist)aka Vicodin creators ...

Poison America and take control of the Goym is the only way
Jesus I thought you were gonna write something sensible... then I stumble upon the first "Zionist".

*sigh*
 

Dr. Who

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Agreed, but I was under the impression the Taliban took controll of those markets rather than erraticating them.
Nope, the Taliban, under their belief of Sharia law (one of the many good things about Islam) they forbid the growing of poppies due to the end product "hurting" people - all people, even their enemies!..

It was the Al-Qa'ida and Non Taliban Militia that wrestled for control of the opium trade.. The Taliban actually had "friction" with Al-Qa'ida over the issue...and the tribal militia's in the north had largest % of control.....These militia's were the main local opposition to the Taliban! We came in and brought these militia's in on our side....The result was a boom in the trade for them! "We" sic - "the company" instructed the US Mil. to look the other way. We had DEA people there screaming bloody murder like a dog howling at the moon.....Had about the same effect as the CIA sic "the company" was in charge.....I have been told that they "company" would send the DEA on raids of the drug smuggling rivals of those militia's that did not "come into the fold" and fight with us......

That created a real fast, world wide increase in available, high quality street heroin. Right along with a reduction in the price!

Ain't "we" great! How much "greater" can Trump make us then that? The US "the" creator of the worlds worst heroin epidemic! I've been in a coffee house in Spain that when you order a Coffee and get a spoon. the spoon has a hole in it so the junkies don't steal them to cook with any more. I saw this in Italy, Germany, Sweden and Norway too! Parks filled with teen to lower 20 somethings, shooting and nodding off.....Governments struggling to figure out how to handle this new and unexpected epidemic!

This was in the mid 2000's.....I hear from friends that it may not be as in your face as before. It's still that bad. Some governments are finding ways to "hide" it from view, while they are beginning to make inroads into prevention and education, all the while still struggling with attempting to treat those already addicted.....

It's here too! I saw a picture of a street in LA. It looked like a rainbow sea of little of empty colored drug balloons!

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves!
 
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Indacouch

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In the 60's & 70's it was sleeping pills and speed pills....Placidyl, Reds, rainbows, Quaaludes - etc, etc, etc.
We were schooled all over about how bad heroin is and "Do you want to be a junkie and have you life controlled by a drug?" Where did that go?

The feds stepped in and forced the drug companies to discontinue manufacture of most of these. It includes easy access forms of pain meds and diet drugs....

Now we have this epidemic of opioids and they do what? No more then run around in circles and point fingers. Uneducated and purposeful statements on Cannabis being the cause to deflect from the real problem....Has become almost a daily happening....

When we invaded Afghanistan. We removed the Taliban from power. Bad folks for sure. They did not allow growing poppies though. It's against the idea that you do no harm to others....We walk in and had no plan to replace the way people made a living....The no poppies rule was gone and the people went back to do what they knew how to make money. We squashed everything else for the rural folk.

Now we have a world wide heroin epidemic. New junkies fueled by starting on Opioid pain meds that were prescribed or obtained illegal, with no real control or clear way to wean off those that needed it....

Drug companies still making billions off of sales, many of those illegal!

All the bluster and hot air and nothing really gets done! They sure can't offend the big pharma as they send the politico's big money in donations.....

It's just another sign that the Government is owned and operated by big money! They don't really care! it's just something to keep us all afraid.....It's not going to change.....

It's time to throw out the politicians and start over! Change all those rules about corporate donations and lobbying. No more "super pac's".....It's time we made the politicians work for US and not for big business and the party!

Stand up to big pharma and say,,,That's enough! We are going to regulate where those drugs go. Who buys them in bulk and tighten the prescription laws and provide for those who may need to be carefully withdrawn from their use.....You had all better start looking to find new and less addictive methods for pain control...We're going to limit manufacture and slowly phase these things out.....

Do I sound pissed? A friends son, just died from a car accident under the influence of unprescribed Oxy use.
This was a good kid. Always helping, Happy, friendly, outgoing.....Never had a legal problem.....The cops better find the source before we do!

What a fucking waste of life!

In the 60's and 70's....The government had the BALLS to step up and do something about it!

Now it's "screw the "people"! "We might piss off that big money source of campaign funds.."

And some of you idiots, elected an egotistical oligarch for Pres. If you really think he's going to help you...You're fucking deluded!
Sorry to hear about the boy Dr.

I've had several young friends go to sleep and never wake up .......a few others who got prescribed pain killers and then had to resort to heroin because there shady doctors finally get busted for cutting unnecessary scripts for an extra $$$ .....My best friend was in a serious motorcycle accident almost took his life ....he was in a wheel chair and had to have multiple multiple surgeries .....he was on several powerful pain killers ......after several years he got better was able to walk and started to get his life back on track ........until they started pulling his absurd amounts of opiate pills ..........he's now a complete junky addicted to meth living in a shed in his parents back yard ........he was in the military and had his own house cars and long term girlfriend ......I tried to get him into a methadone clinic and actually did for about two weeks .....I took him every day .....the people at those clinics are from every walk of life ....business owners driving fancy cars all the way down to the man pushing a shopping cart .......but he didn't like that he had to go everyday and felt that because it was just pills ....he didn't have a problem ......he stold from me and his parents ...so there was nothing more I could do with his mind set .

This epidemic is so bad ,,,literally everyone I know either has a similar story or has been addicted at some point in there life....smh
 

whitebb2727

Well-Known Member
Is this not calling for prohibition?

I say let people do what they want. You want a pill, then walk into a pharmacy and buy a pill.

People get drunk and get behind the wheel and kill themselves and others all the time. We don't outlaw booze. Why? We tried it and doesn't work.

What we really need is more treatment options and funding for people that need and want it.

Lets take suboxone for example. Its almost impossible to od on because it has a ceiling. Its a partial agonist.

It cost an arm and a leg for people to get suboxone. Hell the makers of it went from pill form to films. Why? The patent was up on the pill form and generics were cutting into Reckitt Benkiser's profits. They even petitioned the fda. To ban the generic pill form in the guise that children were getting a hold of the pills. They said that their individual wrapped films were the only safe option.

I would be perfectly fine for people to be able to go buy a suboxone or what ever they want at a cheap price than to steal from me to pay outrageous street prices.



http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1926160,00.

Some places actually give heroin to heroin addicts. Why? Its cheaper to spend a few grand a year to give them heroin than to incarcerate them. It eases the burden on society by stopping the need for addicts to steal and then jail them after they steal.


Its a complicated issue but prohibition doesn't work.
 

Indacouch

Well-Known Member
Is this not calling for prohibition?

I say let people do what they want. You want a pill, then walk into a pharmacy and buy a pill.

People get drunk and get behind the wheel and kill themselves and others all the time. We don't outlaw booze. Why? We tried it and doesn't work.

What we really need is more treatment options and funding for people that need and want it.

Lets take suboxone for example. Its almost impossible to od on because it has a ceiling. Its a partial agonist.

It cost an arm and a leg for people to get suboxone. Hell the makers of it went from pill form to films. Why? The patent was up on the pill form and generics were cutting into Reckitt Benkiser's profits. They even petitioned the fda. To ban the generic pill form in the guise that children were getting a hold of the pills. They said that their individual wrapped films were the only safe option.

I would be perfectly fine for people to be able to go buy a suboxone or what ever they want at a cheap price than to steal from me to pay outrageous street prices.



http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1926160,00.

Some places actually give heroin to heroin addicts. Why? Its cheaper to spend a few grand a year to give them heroin than to incarcerate them. It eases the burden on society by stopping the need for addicts to steal and then jail them after they steal.


Its a complicated issue but prohibition doesn't work.
I could careless about people of age making those kinds of decisions ....and I'm not anti pain meds ....there is a need for them absolutely .......but making it possible for people to go but a pill of there choice will only make it that much easier for it to fall into young peoples hands .......I remember shoulder tapping as a minor for beer from adults .....offering extra cash to buy me and my friends alchohol ......same thing would happen with being able to purchase legal narcotics .......I agree with what your saying to a degree ......but that would make it even more readily available to kids to become addicted to ........it would solve a lot of problems indeed ....but it would also create wayyy more junkies because of the ease of obtaining them .......just my opinion WB
 

SneekyNinja

Well-Known Member
I could careless about people of age making those kinds of decisions ....and I'm not anti pain meds ....there is a need for them absolutely .......but making it possible for people to go but a pill of there choice will only make it that much easier for it to fall into young peoples hands .......I remember shoulder tapping as a minor for beer from adults .....offering extra cash to buy me and my friends alchohol ......same thing would happen with being able to purchase legal narcotics .......I agree with what your saying to a degree ......but that would make it even more readily available to kids to become addicted to ........it would solve a lot of problems indeed ....but it would also create wayyy more junkies because of the ease of obtaining them .......just my opinion WB
Are you gonna rush out and start doing meth and heroin if they legalise it?
 
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