On the verge of giving up!!!!

Greenthumbgrower1986

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I know bac bloom is 6-5-6 if I remember correctly and grow is 8-3-3, which would be better bloom or grow, the grow has higher n... Which would you all use?
 

Lenin1917

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I've tried many nute lines, this run I've gone organic dry amendments, and to combat what I though was a nitrogen deficiency I added worm castings 2 weeks before the flip as I heard the soil will need to break it down before being available. Not sure if there's truth in that but I am a novice
If you can get some recharge that will help activate your dry amendments. Start giving teas once a week too. Just put your dry amendments in the coffee maker and brew then mix it with cold water. She really just looks a bit underfed. Next time go with bigger pots.
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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If you can get some recharge that will help activate your dry amendments. Start giving teas once a week too. Just put your dry amendments in the coffee maker and brew then mix it with cold water. She really just looks a bit underfed. Next time go with bigger pots.
I did add some ecothrive charge last week, as for the teas I can only give it a shot
 

Cx2H

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Greetings.

Yellow/Dying/Crispy from the bottom up?

Crispy looking buds by finish?

Moving slow or fast ATM?

Shows up after stretch most of the time?

Has it ever caused a sudden death of a plant yet?

Not strain dependant?

Environmentals are out of spec?

You ever run one of the cuts outside to see if they do the same thing?

Sterile soil? Benes applied with non chlorinated/tap water?

Balanced feed schedule or grow/bloom schedule?
You switching to bloom /low N feeds after stretch?

You stacking supplements for flower?

Cal mg?

Epsom salts?

Low RH/humidity?

You ever tried a 1 part feed from cut to finish?

Sorry for the survey. I've run into this a few times indoors with certain strains or conditions. Never have this issue outside even with cuts from the affected plants.
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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Greetings.

Yellow/Dying/Crispy from the bottom up?
Yes
Crispy looking buds by finish?
No
Moving slow or fast ATM
Pretty fast, once yellow starts usually spreads over next week or 2
Shows up after stretch most of the time?
Yes, but she had slight n excess a few weeks ago( burnt tips and slight clawing dark green leaves)
Has it ever caused a sudden death of a plant yet?
No
Not strain dependant?
No, tried many strains
Environmentals are out of spec?
Average lights on is around 25°c on, 20°c lights off. I have a 5" active intake and a 6" rvk extractor( has enough negative pressure to pull walls in)
You ever run one of the cuts outside to see if they do the same thing?
No
Sterile soil? Benes applied with non chlorinated/tap water?
Yes tried ro, and tap water that's left out for 48hrs
Balanced feed schedule or grow/bloom schedule?
Following nute lines by supplier
You switching to bloom /low N feeds after stretch?
Was told to add the bloom (dry amendments just before the flip to allow the micro organisms to break it down) also have previously tried bottled nutes and kept using grow until week 2 from flip

You stacking supplements for flower?
Not sure
Cal mg?
0.5ml per litre every other water
Epsom salts?
No
Low RH/humidity?
50% on 55%~60% off( plenty of internal circulation
You ever tried a 1 part feed from cut to finish?
No, any suggestions
Sorry for the survey. I've run into this a few times indoors with certain strains or conditions. Never have this issue outside even with cuts from the affected plants.
 

Driver733

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Looking at your most recent photos, it looks to me similar to the issues I just dealt with, the plants slowly ate themselves all the way thru flower. I switched to GH nutes, hoping it doesn't happen again.

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Driver733

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Did you find out why it was happening
No, I thought it was either the gnats, cal mag issues, or FF nutes or a combination of all three. I will know soon how the new nutes work, and they include cal-mag instead of adding it separately, so we'll see what happens. I've been using the grow formula for the veg cycle so far with good results, nice and green but I'm starting to get a little yellow on the lowest leaves as I am about to start flowering.

I'll let you know how it goes if you want. At the very least, keep going, even if the plants eat themselves they can still produce good results (and it is always interesting to see what happens, all part of this hobby).
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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No, I thought it was either the gnats, cal mag issues, or FF nutes or a combination of all three. I will know soon how the new nutes work, and they include cal-mag instead of adding it separately, so we'll see what happens. I'll let you know how it goes if you want. At the very least, keep going, even if the plants eat themselves they can still produce good results (and it is always interesting to see what happens, all part of this hobby).
Yes very interested
 

Nutty sKunK

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About 1.5l~2l every 3 days ruffly with a about 10% run off after 5 mins
I see you’ve raised the fabric pot up as well. This coupled with the fan (I assume is blowing 24/7) is drying your soil out too much.

Soil should be kept moist, not too wet or too dry. If it becomes too dry your microherd that you’ve established over the prior months suffers.

The reason you are seeing N always at this point is because N is most consumed during stretch. Your soil becomes depleted and you don’t replace it quick enough. Yellow leaves are the result and it’s why they show up the same time frame.

Dry amendments are best for outdoors for its hard to time the release and the conditions are always less intense outdoors (cloud cover, rain, shade, different times of day etc).

Stick with liquid feeds organic/synthetic for indoor growing until you get that right.
 
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