Ohioan non patient moving to denver. Considering MMJ

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Clefoodie

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Moving next week to the denver area. I am seriously considering speaking with a physician about MMJ.

I stumbled through google and find myself pleasantly surprised with the community here. There is a tremendous amount of information for my educational needs.

My main concern is do I wait until next year for the rec to get rolling or get my red card. I really don't like the idea of the state knowing what I do. I much prefer the anonymity and privacy.

Not knowing anyone in denver doesn't help my cause. Hope to meet some new friends here on RIU.

CHEERS!!
CLEfoodie
 
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meltdown213

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Clefoodie said:
Moving next week to the denver area. I am seriously considering speaking with a physician about MMJ.

I stumbled through google and find myself pleasantly surprised with the community here. There is a tremendous amount of information for my educational needs.

My main concern is do I wait until next year for the rec to get rolling or get my red card. I really don't like the idea of the state knowing what I do. I much prefer the anonymity and privacy.

Not knowing anyone in denver doesn't help my cause. Hope to meet some new friends here on RIU.

CHEERS!!
CLEfoodie
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Welcome. You'll love the weather here compared to back east. I moved around 3 years ago for work and love the place. Especially if you like to do outdoor stuff. Lakes are everywhere.

Nobody is kicking your door in for personal stash...but I routinely run into problems with renting and landlords. They been burned so much by large scale ops renting their homes and doing nothing but growing they will kick you out quickly and check up on things.
I've been debating my card as well just to go legit....but I hate the idea of my name in some dam database.
 
Chimone

Chimone

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Nice, Im moving up there next Tuesday.

I have my Az MMJ and have spoken to a few dispensaries while I was up there. Public MJ shops dont go live until 2014 so Im just going to go ahead and get a Co MMJ card to make things much easier on myself. Its a small 35 dollar fee which is awesome compared to Az's 150 fee.
 
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Clefoodie

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Being legit is important. Does it outweigh my privacy....?
l'm really excited to make this move. in terms my age, I'm half baked already. The timing is right. Grew up in Chicago and the last 17 years in Cleveland area. Looking forward to being outdoors more. I have a great home setup, Douglas county.

Thanks for the welcome meltdown213 Hope to connect when I get out here in less than 2 weeks with a friendly member who has some meds to share. I have wicked back/spine issues. I know what a move can do to a lower back.
 
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meltdown213

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Nice areas but water can get a little pricey. Like twice what it is in Denver but the air is cleaner. I'm SW along the front range. I'm half baked as well. --A little slower, a little more grey, a few more aches and pains but a helluva lot smarter. Shoot me a message when you get here, hook up for a beer or something and exchange ideas.
 
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Clefoodie

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meltdown213 said:
Nice areas but water can get a little pricey. Like twice what it is in Denver but the air is cleaner. I'm SW along the front range. I'm half baked as well. --A little slower, a little more grey, a few more aches and pains but a helluva lot smarter. Shoot me a message when you get here, hook up for a beer or something and exchange ideas.
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I hear you. That sounds good Meltdown.. I'll be in town next week. H.R. is my location.. Look forward to that beer, I'll need it!!

I'll send a message next week.

Cheers!
 
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Clefoodie

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3 Pounds of Weeden said:
Hey, Clefoodie

Wish I could go with you :( I can never leave my browns :(
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I said that about my original home team years ago. Funny thing about the Brownies is that when I arrived here, they left for 4 years. When I leave, they are just starting to show tons of progress. More team spirit, new ownership. '13 Should be a great year for the Browns. I will be rooting for them. Though I am a huge Peyton fan, sorry....
 
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3 Pounds of Weeden

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Who isn't a peyton fan! hands down top 5 greatest QB's IMO (strongly stressing my opinion.) I wish you luck in your endeavor and health, maybe i'll see you out there one day. This part of the country, especially Ohio, isn't for me.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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I understand my brethren stoners not wanting to give up their names to the government. Years ago if you told me about mmj licensing I would have been very skeptical.

The state has my name. The police can not fish the list, they are only allowed to ask if a certain name is on the list. The federal government can not look at the list...
I stay within legal limits, so what do I care?

If you are paranoid, don't get a card. You can still grow and keep everything.
Under current law you do not need to have a license to grow more than enough for personal use.
I would not advocate breaking the law, there is no reason to with the passing of 64.

I keep my card for a few reasons.
-It is one more level of protection for me from the government in case something weird happens.
-I can possess two ounces out in the world, instead of just one.
-VAPE PEN CARTRIDGES! Love 'em, don't want to make 'em, gotta get them at a dispensary.
-Occasional edibles and weed treats. I went to a dispensary to get some hash oil cartridges and saw some Neville's Abusive Wreck that looked great. I have 47 jars of weed at home, but variety is the spice of life. The NA Wreck was really good. When I had dental work done I drank an 1100mg infused drink instead of eating pain pills. Got a great night's sleep.

It was $65 total the last time I renewed. That is worth it for me.
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meltdown213

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Trousers said:
I understand my brethren stoners not wanting to give up their names to the government. Years ago if you told me about mmj licensing I would have been very skeptical.

The state has my name. The police can not fish the list, they are only allowed to ask if a certain name is on the list. The federal government can not look at the list...
I stay within legal limits, so what do I care?

If you are paranoid, don't get a card. You can still grow and keep everything.
Under current law you do not need to have a license to grow more than enough for personal use.
I would not advocate breaking the law, there is no reason to with the passing of 64.

I keep my card for a few reasons.
-It is one more level of protection for me from the government in case something weird happens.
-I can possess two ounces out in the world, instead of just one.
-VAPE PEN CARTRIDGES! Love 'em, don't want to make 'em, gotta get them at a dispensary.
-Occasional edibles and weed treats. I went to a dispensary to get some hash oil cartridges and saw some Neville's Abusive Wreck that looked great. I have 47 jars of weed at home, but variety is the spice of life. The NA Wreck was really good. When I had dental work done I drank an 1100mg infused drink instead of eating pain pills. Got a great night's sleep.

It was $65 total the last time I renewed. That is worth it for me.
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Quit bragging you b@sta@rd!.J/k.

I have some homemade elixir that rocks to keep me going. A few squirts in the water bottle and I can bike up and down the Platte all day long. -- Knee starts killing me after a mile or two w/o it. My jars are almost empty is the reason I'm looking into the card though. I hear ya, but man I know the pressure these mgrs are under for people to access that list. --Seen similar shit in my travels and journey's through life....F-ing sucks.

I had unofficial access when things first starting taking off and really enjoyed the variety I was exposed too. I agree that variety is a huge bonus of card! --clones, seeds, wax, hash, edibles..etc. It's all good and very tempting.

BTW, you can buy a bad@ass remote controlled Vapes online for reasonable prices. --Same with scales, weights etc. I love to vape but really don't think it is necessary at the end of the day. It's stoner rich IMO!

Love that f-ing picture dude. It f's-with my visual every time. Nice PhotoShop.
 
SahTiva

SahTiva

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Isn't there a limit to how much you can have at home under 64? Isn't the same restriction unlimited under 20? I could be wrong here but I thought the bonus was if you keep your card you can keep whatever you grow on site whether it be 3 ounces or 3 pounds. If there's a hint of truth to this its a no brainer....
 
Bubbagineer

Bubbagineer

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Welcome to CO. I grew up back East, then moved around the country for 10 years or so and have been in Douglas County for 15 ys - you'll love it. Don't know if you realize, but there are no dispensaries south of Denver (I think) until you get to Palmer Lake... And CO Springs of course. I have my red card, wish that I would have done it years ago. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass if the Gubmint knows I medicate and the local cops can't fish the list.... and dispensaries are very convenient. Look into CBD rich strains if you're looking to medicate for pain. I didn't know what CBD was until a year ago, now it's my best friend.
 
Osburn

Osburn

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SahTiva said:
Isn't there a limit to how much you can have at home under 64? Isn't the same restriction unlimited under 20? I could be wrong here but I thought the bonus was if you keep your card you can keep whatever you grow on site whether it be 3 ounces or 3 pounds. If there's a hint of truth to this its a no brainer....
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You have it backwards. With a red card, you can have six plants and up to two ounces in your home or on your person when you leave home. Under 64, you can have six plants and everything you harvest from those plants in your home. And you can have an ounce on your person whenever you leave home. The only reason why you'd want to get a red card this year is if you want to continue shopping at the dispensaries until most of them shut down and re-open as 64 pot shops next year. The Department of Revenue will always be in the game, but it will be nice to see the Department of Health no longer a major player in the cannabis trade once more and more people decide not to renew their red cards. Out of the 500 or so dispensaries in the state, I'd say less than one hundred will continue as dispensaries in 2014.
 
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SmokingBull

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If you intend to grow, you'll want a red card for sure for elevated plant counts. 64 only allows for 6 plants (and only 3 can be mature, I believe).

If you're just going to smoke, you can likely get by without it. You just need to source for what you want.

I'm pretty sure you're safe from trouble for less than an ounce even without the card right now. The Boulder DA said last year on 60 Minutes that they don't bother with misdemeanor possession charges anymore because of "jury nullification", meaning they can arrest you and bring you up on charges but the jury won't convict, so they don't even bother. And this was before 64 passed. In fact, when 64 passed, many jurisdictions dropped all pending small possession cases.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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SmokingBull said:
If you intend to grow, you'll want a red card for sure for elevated plant counts. 64 only allows for 6 plants (and only 3 can be mature, I believe).

If you're just going to smoke, you can likely get by without it. You just need to source for what you want.

I'm pretty sure you're safe from trouble for less than an ounce even without the card right now. The Boulder DA said last year on 60 Minutes that they don't bother with misdemeanor possession charges anymore because of "jury nullification", meaning they can arrest you and bring you up on charges but the jury won't convict, so they don't even bother. And this was before 64 passed. In fact, when 64 passed, many jurisdictions dropped all pending small possession cases.
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Doctors like to charge extra for a higher plant count recommendation. Just because a doctor recommends more plants does not mean the law is changed.

You might have a chance with a good lawyer, but possibly not.


If a person is growing for personal use, there is no reason to break the law.
You could grow three plants under three 1000 watt lights and pull pounds.

There is no reason to not comply with the law, unless you are a drug dealer.
 
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SmokingBull

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Trousers said:
Doctors like to charge extra for a higher plant count recommendation.
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I went to doctor not long ago, told him of an aggravating injury, blah blah blah, paid him $35, and walked out with a recommendation for 20+ plants. It's not that hard, or expensive. I have heard of a doc that'll write 75 plants for like $350, but that's neither here nor there.

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Just because a doctor recommends more plants does not mean the law is changed.
You might have a chance with a good lawyer, but possibly not.
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I know someone who had a knock and talk last year. I guess the neighbors or someone reported a smell. The detectives were welcomed in, shown appropriate paperwork, and got a tour of the Show. They counted plants, weighed product. It turns out this someone was an ounce or so over on product because he was sitting on a bunch of trim he was going to blast into wax. Because "someone" had freely cooperated with the detectives and not given them a hard time about a warrant or whatever, they gave him the option of taking either buds or trim to get back to the correct level. Of course they left with the trim lol.

From my understanding, it's up to the local city/county PD's and DA's to decide if they'll follow doctor's recommendations or stick to a strict interpretation of 6 plants max, so it pays to know local laws.
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If a person is growing for personal use, there is no reason to break the law.
You could grow three plants under three 1000 watt lights and pull pounds.

There is no reason to not comply with the law, unless you are a drug dealer.
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I have no idea where you're going with this. The whole point of all this is to remain in compliance of the law.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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As I said, a doctor recommendation does not change the law. It will not stop a cop from arresting someone if they want to.

I was pointing out that you can grow three huge plants and yield pounds and still be in compliance with the law. Therefore there is no reason to not comply with the law unless you are a dealer.
 
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SmokingBull

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And I opined that law enforcement will often follow doctor's recommendations because it can be difficult to get a conviction. The Golden DA said as much on 60 Minutes last year, called it "jury nullification". If this is the case in the area which you live, would you not be de facto in compliance of the law to grow to your recommendations (up to 99 total, of course, at which point it's a federal crime and all bets are off)?

As to growing 3 vs more, it's really just a matter of taste, no? Some like SOG/SCROG, some go for giant trees. Some go organic, some use chemical-derived nutes. Some rockwool, some coco, some dirt.

And what's with the "dealer" comment? If someone pulls 4 pounds with 3 plants then they're just a normal law abiding citizen, but if they pull 4 pounds with 20 plants then they're a dealer? That doesn't make sense.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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SmokingBull said:
And I opined that law enforcement will often follow doctor's recommendations because it can be difficult to get a conviction. The Golden DA said as much on 60 Minutes last year, called it "jury nullification". If this is the case in the area which you live, would you not be de facto in compliance of the law to grow to your recommendations (up to 99 total, of course, at which point it's a federal crime and all bets are off)?

As to growing 3 vs more, it's really just a matter of taste, no? Some like SOG/SCROG, some go for giant trees. Some go organic, some use chemical-derived nutes. Some rockwool, some coco, some dirt.

And what's with the "dealer" comment? If someone pulls 4 pounds with 3 plants then they're just a normal law abiding citizen, but if they pull 4 pounds with 20 plants then they're a dealer? That doesn't make sense.
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A doctor's rec does not change the law. Ask a lawyer.


Unwind your shorts. If you are just out to supply yourself, it is not hard to do so with only three mature plants.
If you want to grow weed to sell illegally, like drug dealers do, then it might be hard to only grow three plants at a time and make a lot of money.

I don't care if people grow shittons of weed legal or otherwise. I think weed should be regulated like tomatoes. I'm not moralizing, I just was saying that if you want to supply yourself, it is not hard to do so and be in compliance with the law.
 
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