oh shit left my door open- quick question

Ya, I would definaty remove that G.E plantmax halogen there. Bad new those are, Those lights and those emergency mylar blankets, are a fire waiting to happen. If that material becomes un- taped, or tacked and blows into that light. What you will have is a fire marshall and a dope detective at your burn't out doorway. These guys won't be very impressed with your set up, to say the least. Also, they cause that freeky looking veg growth. I experience these awfull bastards before, 25 years ago when they invented them. cfl are way better, and no heat. Ya no worries on the night- light issue. Artificial light in the same room on several occasions, can slow down production late in bloom, too much of it early can cause issues. Once or twice won't make your plant explode ito a seed farm. 1 or 2 selfed seeds on a plant won't be the end of the world either. Try, flat white paint. This has the best reflective qualities, without spending a fortune on tear-resistant diamond- back, black- outs. With a light meter they beat mid grade mylar. This is why surgery rooms are flat white not just because it" looks " sterille. Check high times, any photo of a pro set up. Flat white paint, is whats used. And.... wont burn your house down. P.s touch some of that material to a incadecent bulb, It burns like it is covered with gas, and is only preferable to alunimum foil.

I understand that the GE grow lights don't work well. But to say they will start a fire? The HPS and MH lights we use get MUCH hotter than any incandescent bulb.
I don't use those GE lights, I'm just saying...

melungeonman said:

Ya, I would definaty remove that G.E plantmax halogen there. Bad new those are, Those lights and those emergency mylar blankets, are a fire waiting to happen. If that material becomes un- taped, or tacked and blows into that light. What you will have is a fire marshall and a dope detective at your burn't out doorway. These guys won't be very impressed with your set up, to say the least. Also, they cause that freeky looking veg growth. I experience these awfull bastards before, 25 years ago when they invented them. cfl are way better, and no heat. Ya no worries on the night- light issue. Artificial light in the same room on several occasions, can slow down production late in bloom, too much of it early can cause issues. Once or twice won't make your plant explode ito a seed farm. 1 or 2 selfed seeds on a plant won't be the end of the world either. Try, flat white paint. This has the best reflective qualities, without spending a fortune on tear-resistant diamond- back, black- outs. And.... wont burn your house down, P.s touch some of that material to a incadecent bulb, It burns like it is covered with gas, and is only preferable to alunimum foil.

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lol there are somany staples in the mylar that I do't think it will be coming off anytime soon. the funny part is that under the mylar the box is painted flat white. did that before the blankets. I thought it would help with the reflectiveity of the mylar. I will get a cfl when I can afford one.

KidneyStoner420 said:

I understand that the GE grow lights don't work well. But to say they will start a fire? The HPS and MH lights we use get MUCH hotter than any incandescent bulb.
I don't use those GE lights, I'm just saying...

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he is saying that if the mylar comes off the wall and sits on the light. it will start a fire and he is right but I don't think it will come off of the wall. it would be a chore for me to do it.

uh hu, and we use hoods, and squirille cages, and everything we can to control the inevidable 20 year jail terms. Not Thinking it will come off the wall is great, right up until, it does. So yes kindney stoner, they do get very hot! and I'm saying when a person (does have), a few decades of experience, and see's a post by a newbie who has made mistakes that could move him from his present home to the one ran by the state, if not dead in the fire. We try to point these things out, as they may be issues that a new grower wasn't aware of. Thats why we visit these forums, to help, not just give blind advice. There are a few of us on line who are credible as well as well known growers.

I know we use hoods, but that's not too safe either. Just stating the facts.
Wasn't trying to argue.

Iv'e seen whole grows done by placing around the plant, reg run of the mill house hold florecent twist ins. These are beter than G.E plant max. a aquarium hood, or shop light works well for small plants, t5's or t12's, for t12 1 white light 1 aquarium/ plant bulb. will work. These can be found at thrift stores for a couple bucks. Greg green's cannabis grow bible, a must for new growers get this first, then cobble your grow together using the examples in the book. After you've done this, re-germ some seeds. Planning is paramount in a successfull grow! Get what you NEED then grow them out, this is the best plan.

melungeonman said:

Iv'e seen whole grows done by placing around the plant, reg run of the mill house hold florecent twist ins. These are beter than G.E plant max. a aquarium hood, or shop light works well for small plants, t5's or t12's, for t12 1 white light 1 aquarium/ plant bulb. will work. These can be found at thrift stores for a couple bucks. Greg green's cannabis grow bible, a must for new growers get this first, then cobble your grow together using the examples in the book. After you've done this, re-germ some seeds. Planning is paramount in a successfull grow! Get what you NEED then grow them out, this is the best plan.

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Are you telling him he should cut down his plants and start over?

GTFO. lol

Yes as far as safety goes, theres never enough. We must do this safe and sane, to stay free to do it. It is illegal. I wasn't trying to start an argument either my friend. Grow room fires are a thing I'm always sensitive to. It Can and does happen, the consiquences for a simple mistake are life changing. So when I see this sort of thing in pictures, I try to point it out. Bad things that can be avoided, should be. You can never illiminate all the dangers in growing a illeagal substance. But they can, should, and must be avoided.

Here is why I don't like mylar. It is light taking a flashlight and just putting light onto specific spots on the plant. Yes, it will bounce all around and eventually hit most areas of the plant but using the inverse square law any reflection beyond the first is inconsequential. The hot spots on the plants will be a different temperature as the adjacent plant matter and sets up pressure gradients. The lighted part will transpire at a faster rate and suck moisture from the insufficiently lighted parts. In addition, the spots well lighted will develope better than the other parts of the plant and force the plant to 'lean' into those spots. You will notice that hoods using reflective aluminum pebble the surface to diffuse the light and reduce hot spots. White paint diffuses the light equally and allows the plant to just focus on what it's been doing for thousands of years.

Oh no, I told him already photphuckups, like this aren't a huge issue, as well as pointing out a few potential threats such as exposed light bulbs and stapled mylar. I also went on to give him a few tips as far as, better alternitives to having a "lighter" in his grow room that won't cost him an arm and leg. Such as hid light fixtures. He mentioned he was limited right now on what he can invest, but no, these plants look good. I guess the spirit of the post was to tell him about a book that I think would be a good investment, before he buys equipment and starts again, this helps get what you need, and gives ideas for a better grow area, as well as the knowlege in how it all comes together, to produce the best smoke, your grow area can

Great post! Opm.

Cutting them down is out of the question. I would fix some fire hazards but cut them down haha yeah right. I do understand where you are coming from but that is a shit load of work down the drain. I am a leagal patient, this is for personal use and I am not affraid of the cops coming to my house I would show it to them anytime they ask. I do not and will not be selling any of my product hense the name smokeKEEPER. I will follow any advise that is safty and productive. When I read that you thought I should cut down I was like WHAT!!@!!!but I understand what your concern is.

god who said anything about cutting anything down? I said the little, photophuckup probably would 't be an issue, and mentioned the fire hazzards I noticed as well as suggested a good book.....nothing about cutting plants down becuase they saw a little light overnight.

I think what you saw, was that I replied yes to his question about hooded lights bieng hot as well. I believe the question about cutting down something, came before I could reaply yes to the first. Guess I should ammend that before someone else thinks Im a lunitic! Dont think we can change the order of the posts so the reply corrisponds with the question sorry for the mix up bub.

ok I plan to flower allof them when I get my room up with a 1000w hpsI just made the flower box from what I had around the house. I have a couple hopeful clones from the one I have in flower now. I was confused I really did think you were talking about cutting down. For me safety is fist. I don't want to burn anything down.
now beside the fire hazzard everythin looks ok i hope.
melungeonman thanks for the advise +rep for you, I will be piucking up some reading material on the subject when I can afford. untill then I will come here and try to sort out he good advice and juck the bad. but no worries on the mix up. I guess that was my fault

I see the mix up now melungeonman. and i thinik that he got mixed up on the regerm some seeds as cut down and start over.

Opm said:

Here is why I don't like mylar. It is light taking a flashlight and just putting light onto specific spots on the plant. Yes, it will bounce all around and eventually hit most areas of the plant but using the inverse square law any reflection beyond the first is inconsequential. The hot spots on the plants will be a different temperature as the adjacent plant matter and sets up pressure gradients. The lighted part will transpire at a faster rate and suck moisture from the insufficiently lighted parts. In addition, the spots well lighted will develope better than the other parts of the plant and force the plant to 'lean' into those spots. You will notice that hoods using reflective aluminum pebble the surface to diffuse the light and reduce hot spots. White paint diffuses the light equally and allows the plant to just focus on what it's been doing for thousands of years.

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I did think about that, so I have been going in there every couple hours and rotating the bitch so this wouldent happen to much. is this still going to wor the same way or will it help the concentrated light. would it be better to turn the hallogen in a differnt direction untill I get a cfl. or will rotating work.I know it' alot of work but I look after them all day, being disabled I have tons of time to do whatever is nessasery

FYI: I always have a smoke detector in any grow area.

There's def some great books out there. "Indoor Marijuana Horticulture" is a great one. I have so many folded over pages and highlighted area everywhere. Some great info, from building the room, all the way to Harvest and curing.

lmao i made a co2 bottle put it in the middle of y plants just above them pantpots so co2 sinks,,seems i put too much yeeast in it made to much co2 and suffocated me plants,,,leasson learned