Obamacare is a great success

billy4479

billy4479

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Well I was impatient thinking I was not going to get a reply and erased that post . Since you quoted it took the time to reply I shall do the same . I agree with you from a humanitarian stand point of all people should receive health care . I just don't like the way private insurance companies became the solution. In Sweden for example free heath care and a two year maternity leave if you become pregnant while employed. In Canada free healthcare also free wisdom teeth removal for everyone. And here wages have not increased but a new demand to pay for a service that once was optional now mandatory . Is lowering the quality of life for many .

I feel we should have looked at how other countries have implemented healthcare and adopted a working system .
maybe your right this tax does have representation . Maybe those aren't the words I needed but I do feel there's an injustice with the tax penalty for refusing to buy a service from a private company. Buy are product or pay a tax does not seem like the way a free market should be implemented.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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billy4479 said:
Well I was impatient thinking I was not going to get a reply and erased that post . Since you quoted it took the time to reply I shall do the same . I agree with you from a humanitarian stand point of all people should receive health care . I just don't like the way private insurance companies became the solution. In Sweden for example free heath care and a two year maternity leave if you become pregnant while employed. In Canada free healthcare also free wisdom teeth removal for everyone. And here wages have not increased but a new demand to pay for a service that once was optional now mandatory . Is lowering the quality of life for many .

I feel we should have looked at how other countries have implemented healthcare and adopted a working system .
maybe your right this tax does have representation . Maybe those aren't the words I needed but I do feel there's an injustice with the tax penalty for refusing to buy a service from a private company. Buy are product or pay a tax does not seem like the way a free market should be implemented.
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If you are in favor of universal healthcare, you have an odd argument. It creates a single, universal pool. It costs the young as much or more than the ACA.
 
billy4479

billy4479

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I did try to simplify my side of things in the 1st post here , re reading it I think I missed my mark . What i was driving at is people can pay up to 35% of income in taxes and ss and as you pointed out not all of this is federal tax. Now cost of insurance is added , in countries where that much of ones income is taxed they are provided with alot of service like heathcare from there government.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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billy4479 said:
I did try to simplify my side of things in the 1st post here , re reading it I think I missed my mark . What i was driving at is people can pay up to 35% of income in taxes and ss and as you pointed out not all of this is federal tax. Now cost of insurance is added , in countries where that much of ones income is taxed they are provided with alot of service like heathcare from there government.
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Your point would carry weight if the country you mentioned didn't spend 1/2 as much per capita for healthcare as we do.
 
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